Who is Tyler for you?
Tyler in the book was Jack's supreme state of being, he was everything Jack wanted to be. I saw this quote in the forum that said "find you inner durden", it got me thinking, who is Tyler for me?
I imagine it's somone involved in music, with lots of freinds living in the music scene of New York or LA. It's something you should really consider, or atleast something I've benn considering. Who do you want to be?
I think thats how Jack created Tyler, like it says in the movie, "people do it everyday, they see themselves, the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." ~Tyler
BTW, if your response is "I want to be surrounded by chicks/money/fame with rock hard abs/amazing athletic ability/super powers" think deeper.
At first I thought this was going to be another pathetic "WWTDD?" type post.
My Tyler Durden is someone who can actually decide who his Tyler Durden is. I hope that makes sense.
[RIGHT][SIZE=1][COLOR=Orange]"White people love Outkast." [/COLOR] [/SIZE][/RIGHT]
tyler for me?
funny, i was waiting for someone to post this question
look him up, his account name is Life According to Zen
i procrastinate
[url=http://chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=13700][img]http://www.tshastry.com/lpfa/AA.gif[/img][/url]
[QUOTE=Jarafrica]At first I thought this was going to be another pathetic "WWTDD?" type post.
My Tyler Durden is someone who can actually decide who his Tyler Durden is. I hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
That does make sense, you wanna know who you really wanna be. This was a big part of space monkey training, "what did you wanna do before you die?". it takes responsibility to ask yourself that question because then you have to look at who you are now. I really like that answer of yours.
WWTD posts are awful, although I had my little Tyler facsination for a little bit. It sucks that these forums get covered by things like that though.
[QUOTE=sheenUGH]My Tyler lives in a VW van by the river.[/QUOTE]
no, Matt Foley lives in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
My Tyler is friend of mine i graduated with recently. And i never thought about it until now, but we share the same first name. Damn that's weird. I would say he's imaginary but other people see and talk to him too. It's weird though, i guess aside from the fact that, like the much fictional Tyler, he opened my eyes to the world around me, he helped realize that there's a Tyler Durden in each of us just waiting for the echoing whisper of dissatisfaction or the pop that an impact makes when you get hit just right.
"Hell is other people." No Exit, Sartre
I don't understand how anyone could pick another person as their "Tyler". The entire point of Tyler's being is to be the person YOU want to be, not be someone else. Everybody would love to be as carefree and witty as Tyler Durden, but no matter what you say, there are certain societal restraints that hold us all back.
[QUOTE=Scott~]I don't understand how anyone could pick another person as their "Tyler". The entire point of Tyler's being is to be the person YOU want to be, not be someone else. Everybody would love to be as carefree and witty as Tyler Durden, but no matter what you say, there are certain societal restraints that hold us all back.[/QUOTE]
I guess, that's true. But there always is a person that seems close to Tyler. Maybe not in the exact ways, but you could see how someone would remind you of him.
"What we do in life, echos an eternity."
But the point of this entire thread, unless I have missed it, is who Tyler would be for YOU.
Therefore, who your ideal self would be, without the constraints of society and such. Who you would LIKE to be, but could never really be (at least in your mind) for whatever reason. But it reflects who you ARE, a person. Your inner core.
I s'pose.
But, hey, I'm probably wrong, and it's a thread about spikey haired dudes with an eclectic taste in clothing.
Glad you asked. No, really. This is going to sound so elementary and cheesy, but you can deal with it. After my best friend and I saw the movie, we decided that the two of us together are Tyler Durden. She is exactly me in a different body. We are the same person. On birthday cards or Christmas gifts or anything, we always sign it, "Mr. Durden" or "Tyler". So yeah... Kendra is my Tyler.
-Alicia
[QUOTE=ashlee simpson]if tyler is who you want to be, my tyler is a successful write. the end. pretty much me, but with talent.[/QUOTE]
MM.. interesting... Today I put on my Tyler outfit, a cool blouse designed by myself, honey colored contacts, the best make up I have and a relentless 'sod off, you unworthy cur' attitude for anyone that crosses my path, Today I am going to my support group (aka Writing Workshop) and I like to criticize other people's writing with rigour and mental tools so they do not believe they are beautiful and unique snowflakes.
My Tyler's name is Erika Juseppe. She is me, I am just her narrator.
The nameless narrator did not create Tyler. Tyler was always, always there. The narrator, as far as I'm concerned, was nameless because it could be any one of us. He could be anyone. He was... everyone. He represented everyone, each and every one of us, that entire generation who is working in shit jobs to buy shit they don't need.
To me, Tyler just represents a side to everyone's personality. Blowing stuff up was basically symbolic, same as the fighting, really. I think everyone craves that true freedom, but we're just scared. Scared of getting in trouble, scared of having people frown upon us, scared of losing that "stability". Scared of being an individual so instead people just want the same thing as everyone else (the stuff his father said, "go to college", "get married").
We don't need to blow up or fuck a "twisted bitch" all night long so she doesn't die, but I everyone has their inner Tyler, and sometimes I think we need to listen to him. :)
Similar themes are raised in [I]Choke[/I] - the sex addiction was symbolic. That "have to get off" feeling experienced by Victor and Denny could be replaced be anything. Smoking, grog, IKEA furniture. Work. They had to fight that addiction and when they did they were well... happier.
We can spend our lives letting the world tell us who we are.
Who is my Tyler Durden? That's an interesting question. It's true that Tyler should be who we are and who we strive to be. So Tyler to me has all the confidence in the world. He isn't afraid to write his opinions. He isn't afraid of the critics. He isn't afraid of not wearing the newest trends. He is a trend setter because his confidence allows only that. He doesn't let that weak inner voice we sometimes have get to him. The voice that tells us we can't go after that girl because they are out of our league. It's the confidence and understanding that no one person is better then the next. It's that inner peace with oneself. That's my Tyler Durden.
The Dude
my tyler durden is a friend of mine who doesn't care about what people think or say, isn't afraid of his parents or other authorities. he says what he thinks and he knows his stuff about what he talks about.
Namer of a thousand names, maker of meanings, transformer of the world, your parents and the parents of your parents continue in you.
I still reckon the narrator did not have a split personality. Marla knew it. Tyler represented what... we all want to do. That fighting and blowing shit up is symbolic, remember that.
We can spend our lives letting the world tell us who we are.
[QUOTE=R.A.M]you cant say all this because if you had need for a 'tyler' you would develop skitzophrenia, none of you have this, none of you can say what you need in a tyler.[/QUOTE]
it's about who you admire, what you want to be like, not who would be you other self if you developed skitzophrenia
Namer of a thousand names, maker of meanings, transformer of the world, your parents and the parents of your parents continue in you.
[QUOTE=R.A.M]You know in the book theres no mentio of tyler being what 'Joe' wants to be, at no time is he described as beng good looking strong or any of that shit. in fact they got so beat up they 'looked like twins'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Tyler in the book was Jack's supreme state of being, [B]he was everything Jack wanted to be[/B]. I saw this quote in the forum that said "find you inner durden", it got me thinking, who is Tyler for me?
I imagine it's somone involved in music, with lots of freinds living in the music scene of New York or LA. It's something you should really consider, or atleast something I've benn considering. [B]Who do you want to be?[/B]
I think thats how Jack created Tyler, like it says in the movie, "[B]people do it everyday, they see themselves, the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it[/B]." ~Tyler [/QUOTE]
in the movie, tyler also says something like "i fuck who you wanna fuck. i look how you wanna look".
Namer of a thousand names, maker of meanings, transformer of the world, your parents and the parents of your parents continue in you.
my Tyler would be someone who didn't hesitate to act instinctual, in other words someone who believed enough in fate to do what he felt was right/wrong/appropriate, and damn the consequences.
i used to be more like this, but as i get older and rely more on things like finances, and not being in jail, etc, i think things through too much before doing them.
now women and children hate me!
and the army sure won't take me!
so how do i earn my living?
by killing the baby seals! ar ar!
[COLOR=DarkRed][URL=http://community.webshots.com/user/coloradoizen]pics[/URL] [URL=http://www.myspace.com/colorblindizen]myspace[/URL][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Tad R. fitzsimmions]i wish i was the old me thats my tyler[/QUOTE]
you phrased it better to me, and didn't have to make any personal confessions!
now women and children hate me!
and the army sure won't take me!
so how do i earn my living?
by killing the baby seals! ar ar!
[COLOR=DarkRed][URL=http://community.webshots.com/user/coloradoizen]pics[/URL] [URL=http://www.myspace.com/colorblindizen]myspace[/URL][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=izen]my Tyler would be someone who didn't hesitate to act instinctual, in other words someone who believed enough in fate to do what he felt was right/wrong/appropriate, and damn the consequences.
i used to be more like this, but as i get older and rely more on things like finances, and not being in jail, etc, i think things through too much before doing them.[/QUOTE]
see me making a confession about getting old? see me talking about how i used to not be like that?
now women and children hate me!
and the army sure won't take me!
so how do i earn my living?
by killing the baby seals! ar ar!
[COLOR=DarkRed][URL=http://community.webshots.com/user/coloradoizen]pics[/URL] [URL=http://www.myspace.com/colorblindizen]myspace[/URL][/COLOR]
i got one and everyday im wishing it did have a life of its own cuz i just keep thinking "why do i put up with this shit, why do i listen to people why do i stay here" i mean not that id hurt people but i sure as hell wouldnt give into their will so i guess tyler for me is my inner thoughts trying to get release
someday ::looks to the horizon:: someday
all we are, is shadows on the wall
I kinda think its sad that everyone wants to be someone else. I like those guys that said, "I am my own Tyler" cause that's what I was thinking. I'm happy with who I am. I'm doing what I want to do. I wouldn't change anything if I had the chance. If you live your life wishing you were someone else, you will never be happy with who you are and probably won't end up like that other person anyway.
my tyler durden is a character in a novel i'm writing right now, whom i am living vicariously through...
is that pathetic or just a normal writin process?
the mind, when properly charmed, can be convinced of any thing.
My tyler has the courage to do what he thinks always. he has the courage to try something based on instinct without fear.
fuck money, fuck chicks, fuck gold and silver. it's all just posessions. if that is your tyler then you have a serious distortion of wht that book/movie was all about and it might be time to reevaluate some priorities in your life. thats not a criticism, just a suggestion.
one time a while ago i was on a massive amount of acid and hanging out with my friend who was on a not as massive amount of acid. he kept disappearing even though we were together the whole time. we were in a store and i had offered to buy him a drink. suddenly when i got to the counter he was gone. then we were walking together and he again disappeared. i started thinking that he wasn't real and i had made him up. i thought he was my tyler but it was probably just some sort of episode brought on by the drug.
if i had to characterize my tyler i would say that he always takes hold of every opportunity. he comes when he is called. he is right minded because he doesn't regret anything. his mind does not stop on anything so he can consider all things at once.
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
I notice everyone talks about "their Tyler", not themselves. everyone's Tyler seems to be made up of spontaneous individual, who is courageous without fear, and whom they can only seem to contact under the influences of drugs. Well, damn I read a story about that once, and it was called Fight Club, and in this story the guy allows "his Tyler", to take over. So, the question should be, if you were "your Tyler", what would you do?
You gotta get behind the mule in the morning and plow.
[QUOTE=joeyjojojrshabadoo]I notice everyone talks about "their Tyler", not themselves. everyone's Tyler seems to be made up of spontaneous individual, who is courageous without fear, and whom they can only seem to contact under the influences of drugs. Well, damn I read a story about that once, and it was called Fight Club, and in this story the guy allows "his Tyler", to take over. So, the question should be, if you were "your Tyler", what would you do?[/QUOTE]
good point joeyjojo. i think if i were my tyler i would just call everyone on their bullshit (not just on forums but in real life too) and also call myself on my bullshit as well rather than just thinking "why are/am they/i saying this? its obviously a meaningless lie like the ones i always invent to convince myself that i'm doing exactly what i want and getting exactly what i need." its kind of hard to face how fucked my life really is (and how most of it is my fault) rather than just pretending it isn't. furthermore, i think that people can only tap into 'their tyler' while on drugs is because the drug numbs the pain of facing their faults and accepting them (temporarily).
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
"People do it everyday; they see themselves the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." -Tyler
I think the question is: If you had the courage to run with it, what would you be?
I would be exactly the same person I am now, only there would be a change of scenery. A few months ago I was going to steal my brother's car (as a 16 year old, without any sort of liscense), get some Pixies tunes going, and just drive as far south as possible. Then I realized that I'd rather just stay here at my parent's house with my hot chocolate and twinkies and high school and wait until at least college to fuck up my life and the lives of the people who care about me.
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/lameronastick/sickgirl.jpg[/IMG]
A lot of people acknowledge the fact that they aren't happy with their self-image. Denial can't last forever. Some of these people kid themselves, lie to themselves and say that they still have plenty of time to change. Or they try to control their environment, which is never a viable option. However, what most people never realize is that if they have to put deep thought into what they should be, take into account a one, five, and ten year plan that they think will truly fit who they are, are they truly grasping their instinctual being and doing only what would make them happy?
In the end, no one will ever truly like theirself. Every person knows their own dirty little secrets, and therefore all the magic that other people see in them is stolen from theirself. That's why everyone always idolizes someone else, because there's unknown truths, because ignorance is bliss. It's not until you lose all inhibition as to what society and you think about yourself,once you stop worrying what other people think and whether people will look up to you and idolize you, only then will you embrace everything you can become. Because that's all identity really is. Something for society to acknowledge you by.
Become your own society.
But that's just my opinion. After all, i am the slack-jawed yokel from Bumfuck Egypt, Kentucky.
[QUOTE=sick girl]"People do it everyday; they see themselves the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." -Tyler
I think the question is: If you had the courage to run with it, what would you be?
I would be exactly the same person I am now, only there would be a change of scenery. A few months ago I was going to steal my brother's car (as a 16 year old, without any sort of liscense), get some Pixies tunes going, and just drive as far south as possible. Then I realized that I'd rather just stay here at my parent's house with my hot chocolate and twinkies and high school and wait until at least college to fuck up my life and the lives of the people who care about me.[/QUOTE]
i see the first part. you lost me on the second. having the courage to run with it doesn't mean stealing cars and abandoning everything that you care about. that sounds like an extreme reaction to fear. of course you shouldn't make all of your decisions (especially the big ones) based on how it will affect other people. however, doing things that you know will hurt others will not prove that you have the courage to 'run with it'. especially if that is your intention (to prove it). actually in a perverse sort of way that proves that you are still acting based on your predicted reaction from others (only in this case you are doing what people don't want you to do rather than what they do want you to do). there is just as much emptiness that way. the difference is that you will get into a different kind of trouble that way. a much more tangible kind.
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
My tyler was a home boy from back in the day. blah blah blah yeah self destruction and all that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and by the way, i am my own human sacrifice
It’s all a dream until you wake up and realize that you never slept last night and that’s real blood on your hands. The axe you can see in the corner of your eye, that’s your axe. You used it last night when you killed her. It all comes flooding back. Now you start thinking.
Where’s the body?
Can it be traced to me?
Who the fuck did I kill?
What’s happening to me?
I didn’t do this shit, did I?
[QUOTE=Worms]The nameless narrator did not create Tyler. Tyler was always, always there. The narrator, as far as I'm concerned, was nameless because it could be any one of us. He could be anyone. He was... everyone. He represented everyone, each and every one of us, that entire generation who is working in shit jobs to buy shit they don't need.
To me, Tyler just represents a side to everyone's personality. Blowing stuff up was basically symbolic, same as the fighting, really. I think everyone craves that true freedom, but we're just scared. Scared of getting in trouble, scared of having people frown upon us, scared of losing that "stability". Scared of being an individual so instead people just want the same thing as everyone else (the stuff his father said, "go to college", "get married").
We don't need to blow up or fuck a "twisted bitch" all night long so she doesn't die, but I everyone has their inner Tyler, and sometimes I think we need to listen to him. :)
Similar themes are raised in [I]Choke[/I] - the sex addiction was symbolic. That "have to get off" feeling experienced by Victor and Denny could be replaced be anything. Smoking, grog, IKEA furniture. Work. They had to fight that addiction and when they did they were well... happier.[/QUOTE]
Well said. I agree.
But if my Tyler Durden was in the form of another personality, I'd have to say he'd be me...only older, more muscular, witty, charming, and free. I guess it's the same for nearly everyone else. But I see Tyler as a goal for me to reach, as a potential I haven't yet used. If I am to become Tyler Durden, I must remain as myself, and work harder for the things that I want.





Joined: 2003-12-31
From: