If IM was made into a film, who do you see starring?

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well? who do you think should be in a film version of IM?



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Madonna!!!!

lol. Uh, no... I'd really like to see it with a mainstream actress, though. Someone mentioned Parkey Posey; that's a pretty neat idea.



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Parker posey might work.

But i think more directorial is what is the major problem.

I was thinking about it, and i think Lynch might be able to pull it off.

It seems to fit his style somewhat.

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Has Lynch pulled [i]anything[/i] off in the last several years?

But, yeah, I agree that finding the right director (and screenwriter) is key.



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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by decalogue [/i]
[B]Has Lynch pulled [i]anything[/i] off in the last several years?

But, yeah, I agree that finding the right director (and screenwriter) is key. [/B][/QUOTE]

I like his directing style, but as a writer, well yeah he sucks.

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Angelina Jolie and Johnny Depp. They're kind of the female and male versions of one another, almost like brother and sister, you know?

The problem would be that I would go see the movie three times a day and... well, let's just say I'd feel bad for the ushers cleaning up after me. I'm more than comfortable enough w/ my sexual identity to say that both of them are fucking HOT.

That is all for now. Maybe more pointless, off-topic posts later! Joy!



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I think I'd go with Tim Burton as the director(Batman I, II, The nightmare before XMAS, etc..) I like his dark approach to making films. I think he would be great for IM. As for actors... hmmm... Mr. Depp would be GREAT, since he's not the typical pretty-boy actor and he's very dedicated, I think I like him mainly 'cause he's not mainstream. As for the rest, I don't know! Do you think the same actress should play both Brandy Alexander and Shannon? I mean, since they're supposed to look exactly the same in the end! And what about the Rhea sisters? I picture three skinny black guys not unlike Chris Tucker, that would certainly look funny!



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I'll be blunt: the idea of Tim Burton and Johnny Depp reuniting for Invisible Monsters arouses me in a sexual way.

But Chencho, just to take your idea about the Rhea sisters one step further: How about the three who were in "Too Wong Foo: Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar?" Kind of role-reprisal? That would kill me.

Not that they'd do it. You have ANY idea how hard it is to keep everything hidden when you're dressed as a woman? I mean, for real.



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I think one of the Rhea sisters should be Matthew Lillard. And I'm diggin the whole Johnny Depp thing, he's the man.

But just out of curiousity, how would they pull of the whole half face thing? I mean they can do almost anything in movies now days but that seems like quite a stretch to me.



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Well, I'm glad that worked out for ya!
About your suggestion concerning the Rhea sisters... where those Patrick Swayze, John Leguizamo and Wesley Snipes??

Anyway, I agree with you. I think hiding the fact that Brandy Alexander is a guy would be one of the major setbacks to the making of this movie. And what about jawless-Shannon?
I'm pretty sure some major re-writing will be done which would lead to the elimination of the role of the Rhea sisters, who knows!



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Yeah Chencho, they were. Those three exactly.

I'm so curious as to what's going to come out of this. I mean... it's like I can see the movie in my mind, you know? But I can't even fathom it actually making it to the big screen. I don't want to sound like a cynic, but ugh. So hard to do (I imagine).

Although, to me at least, it does kind of have a cool "Kung Fu" kind of ending, when Shannon "Kwai-Chang Caine" heads off into the sunset. And maybe that'll make people happy. If the thing gets made.

Here's hoping. :)



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Angelina Jolie would do a good job as Brandy, but not Shannon. Johny Depp would though.

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Okay, we've done it then. Angie as Brandy and Johnny as Shannon.

The former has spoken repeatedly about her love of "bending genders" (witness "Gia" (OMG), "Foxfire" (good movie, way better book), and others), and the later proved he could do it with the work of genius (and one of amm all time favorites) "Ed Wood."

JD has lots of musical experience, so he can work on the score.

But who will Seth be played by? We need a big guy, who can pull off the closeted gay thing really well, and won't look like a retard trying it. Um...

LOL. How about Brad Pitt? Although probably not, because I doubt the other two would want to work with him.

I got it!

Bill Murray! Billy Murray! Just make him not so hunky - and he'd be perfect!



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You all want the perfect Shannon? Two words:

"Goldberg" and "Whoopie".....

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Great suggestions, everyone! But I think we're leaving something out: the music score! There's only one person in this planet who would be able to provide that wickedness and twisted feel to the film: Mr. Danny Elfman! Mr. Elfman and Mr. Burton would most definitely provide the dark elements to convey a truly mesmerizing rendition of Invisible Monsters.

Willtupper, I can definitely see in my mind the ending you suggest:
[Hospital Room] Shannon holds Brandy Alexander's hand and softly caresses it. Then she looks at the Rhea sisters, and then for the last time she lays eyes on Brandy. A small tear falls from Shannon's eyes as she lets go of Brandy. She's leaving the room and the Rhea sisters don't say a word, they just nod their heads: they understand.

[Hospitall hallway]
(Shannon walks down the hall) People stare at this veiled woman in awe. She looks so peaceful, yet so determined. She pays attention to no one.

[Outside the hospital. Hospital's entrance]
The automatic doors open, and out comes Shannon. The sun is setting and its red/yellowish rays penetrate the veils thus revealing the beauty that once was. The days is ending, and a new day will begin. She stares at the place where she once parked her car all bloodied and shocked. She laughs. The circle is closed.



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Holy crap!!! i didn't mean Johnny as Shannon, that would be bad... he would do good as Manus (who i hate, mainly because he stole my last name and ruined it.)

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rupaul, dude. definitely rupaul. lol just kidding.

but a *real* drag queen would *have* to play brandy. none of this "chicago" bullshit. i'm still not over the fact that they had a woman play mary sunshine in that movie...i'm boycotting it for that reason.

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The thing I'm surprised no one's mentioned yet, and has always been the thing I've had the hardest time figuring out when "casting" the book as I read it, is that really, Shannon and Brandy would have to look practically identical. Especially if they kept the ending in tact... :(

I can't think of two actors out there who resemble each other enough (or even come close) to pull that off...

The only "solution" i've ever been able to think of is never showing Shannon's face. All the "present" would have her in her veils, and any flashbacks would be shown either from her perspective, or shot so that she was facing away or something... and I'm the first to say that that would be really hard to pull off. :(

Whoever does play Brandy, though, would have to be a lot smaller framed than most popular actors. More than any other character Chuckie P's created though, I think Brandy would benefit the most from being played by a newcomer...

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I have a solution for all the potential casting problems:

The Arquette Family.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lucite [/i]
[B]I have a solution for all the potential casting problems:

The Arquette Family.

:D [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, one of them *is* a drag queen...

..but i don't think any of them could pull of playing someone attractive enough to be a model... unless maybe Rick Baker did the makeup. ;)

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Odd-Reigh [/i]
[B] i don't think any of them could pull of playing someone attractive enough to be a model... unless maybe Rick Baker did the makeup. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

Heh. Good call. :) And John Landis could direct. :D

Patricia's too short to play a model, anyhoo.



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Okay, it's the wrong forum: but wouldn't Phil Collins make a great Tender Branson? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH HA HA HA HA!



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I'd like darren aronofsky to direct it since he is my fav. director andi.m. is my fav. book. oh and Ellen Burstyn would be a good choice as well

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the director Jeneut for this movie? he did Delicatessan, Island of the Lost Children, Alien Ressurection, and *gulp* Amelie... he's got a real sweet taste for the nightmarish realm that i could totally see for this story... too much temptation with the gender issues alone!!

As for actors, I could easily see Depp in there.. an actor who can put himself aside and get immersed with the character.. he impressed me to no end with his resume of characters.

What about Guy Pearce? From "Memento"?



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No, no, no. I've got it all hooked up:

Brandy and Shannon will be played by Britney Spears and Christina AguileriaAgrentiniwhatthefuckever. That's PERFECT.

And Manus? Either Fred Durst or Eminem. Em probably, because he'll be "hungry" to break out of his, "I'm a homophobe" traditional roles. And Durst is kinda fat, right?

The Rhea sisters will be played by Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, and Samanth Fox. If they're still alive.

AND YOU SAY NYQUIL DOESN'T HELP PEOPLE THINK?!?

Pshaw. :)



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I say the Rhea Sisters be played by former members of Menudo.

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Odd-Reigh, dear, I'll do you one better.

"Invisible Monsters: Starring the Jackson Family Reunion!"

Oh yell heah!



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don't DO that!

i almost gagged on my lemonade from laughing too hard. ;)

personally... I'd love to see George Michael in a cameo during one of Manus' scenes, but that'd just be too obvious and too much to hope for. ;)

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That's freaking AWESOME! And once again, we make a good team, because I'll take your killer idea one step higher: George Michael will half the soundtrack. Doesn't it make sense?

"Father Figure"
"I Want Your Sex"
"Faith"
"DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME W/ELTON JOHN" - This would be during the end scene. Oh yeah, I think you know what I'm talking about.
"I Want Your Sex Part II"

The other half will be done, of course, by the main man man/woman of pop music, MICHAEL JACKSON. Soundtrack selctions will include:

"Black or White"
"Man In the Mirror" (as Manus "crosses over")
"Beat It"
"Bad"
"Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"
"Scream" (in fact, why haven't we suggested that Michael and Janet team up again, like they did in that song, for Invisible Monsters?)
"Come Together" (THINK ABOUT IT)
and "Tabloid Junkie"

There. I've just done the soundtrack for this movie, with a little help from my friend Odd-Reigh.

Where's our royalty money? I mean, her royalty money?

I'll take my payment in Nyquil.



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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by willtupper [/i]
[B]That's freaking AWESOME! And once again, we make a good team, because I'll take your killer idea one step higher: George Michael will half the soundtrack. Doesn't it make sense?[/b]

sheer genius. hollywood should fear us!!!!!

*rubs hands together and practices looking evil*

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[b]Where's our royalty money? I mean, her royalty money?

I'll take my payment in Nyquil. [/B][/QUOTE]

i prefer unmarked large bills, non-sequential.

as for your payment, i offer you this avatar!!

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OH MY GOODNESS THAT'S THE COOLEST THING EVER!

I'm a total computer retard, but I'm going to go study the how to make minotaurs thread, so I can have it be my aviator as soon as possible.

That means, look for Nyquill-sponsored ramblings, probably sometime later next week!

Yell Hess!



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WOW!

That was so easy! And it took a lot less time than I planned.

Man...

If I had a dollar for everytime a woman's told me THAT! (ha)

But now, due to my cinematic partner-in-crime Odd-Reigh's avatar craftiness, oh yes...

WILL TUPPER NOW HAS UNOFFICIAL CORPERATE SPONSORSHIP!

My aviator is so bad-ass, it knows that it's ass is bad.

See? LOL! Nyquill rocks!

But it also stones!

Like a rolling!

Ahhh!!!

(Nyquill - and thank you Odd-Reigh!)



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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by willtupper [/i]
[B]OH MY GOODNESS THAT'S THE COOLEST THING EVER!as possible.

That means, look for Nyquill-sponsored ramblings, probably sometime later next week!

Yell Hess! [/B][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=4]HESS!!!!![/SIZE]

Heh, I rock. Or something. Hehehehe, I also think I'm clever. ;)

[QUOTE][B](Nyquill - and thank you Odd-Reigh!) [/B][/QUOTE]

You're welcome. Once I got a decent picture of a bottle, it was a snap. :cool:

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Odd-Reigh, dear, did you know you, Cp.net webmaster Dennis (the Menace) and I were all born in 1977?

This is not a coincidence. All cool people were either born in 1977 or died in 1977. It's a proven fact!

Charlie Chaplin died on Christmas Day of 1977. You were just over 3 months old. Aren't you glad, that you were alive when such a genius walked the earth? I give thanks everyday.

I'm going to read Dave Barry books now. Bye!



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Well danmit! Why do i only ever seem to date people born in years previous? ;)

Elvis Presley died two days before I was born. I am oddly pleased with this. (Not a big fan of the guy.)

Charlie Chaplin kicked ass though. :)

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he "died"

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???

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Yeah!

And a @@@, too!



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Not to do anything crazy. Like, get back on topic or anything.

But MARGARET FUCKING CHO WOULD BE PERFECT FOR INVISIBLE MONSTERS.

1. She's funny.
2. She's supergay friendly.
3. She's smart.
4. She's done a bunch of bad B-movies not worthy of her time but with her in them makes them wonderful.
5. She can be superbitchy (good trait).
6. I have her CD.
7. I should put this in the "lists" thread, but fuck it.
8. Her last name rhymes with "Ho."
9. Her first name rhymes with "Bargaret."
10. I have a crush on her. But it's not weird because I love my lady like crazy. It's "healthy."
11. My Doctor even says so.

MARGARET CHO MARGARET CHO MARGARET CHO!!!



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I love margaret Cho! Wouldn't she be great as the interferring nun? She could totally make that part something worth watching. :D

she is the only person I've ever written anything that could be considered "fan-mail" to. I have a postcard of her on my bulletin board. She is my hero (well, one of them) and I went to see her last movie like, at least thre times in the theater.

Plus - Skankin' Pickle wrote a song about her!!!

Introducing Ms. Margaret Cho.
She's the asian valley girl who's got much to show.
She kind of looks like Connie Chung,
but in her own slutty way -
It's Margaret Cho - It's Margaret's show.

Margaret, Margaret here she comes
she's doin' the ska dance for everyone.
She's kind of wild and crazy too,
but everybody loves WHO?

Okay, i'll try and come down from the "I just got up" insanity now.

Wooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Okay Odd-Reigh, then it's decided: if something happens and Invisible Monsters (the movie) doesn't get made, what we'll do is get two cheap video cameras (probably made by somebody known for quality. Right now, I'm thinking Fisher-Price), and will STALK everyone we want to be in the movie, filming them so we can edit together the completed picture.

It won't be that hard. It won't be that legal, either. But I figure we're smart enough to work out the details later.

Yuck Feah!



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I think that Brandy Alexander should be played by an actual transsexual/transgendered person--a newcomer a la "Crying Game"--but someone who convincingly looks like a woman, who could also play Shannon. That would be another new twist Chuck's twistiest book, a gender-bender crossing the line of sex not just once but twice--a man turned woman playing not only a man who is transformed into a man, but an actual biological woman!

However, I like the suggestion by whomever said Guy Pearce--I happen to LOVE him and watch him acting in a Herpes commercial if I had to, and he was in "Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert". However, in all honesty, he is too masculine for his own good (rowr) to get away with looking like Shannon too.

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You're right - BRandy Alexander should be played by an actual transsexual/transgendered person.

I say: Oprah Winfrey, or Richard Simmons.

WHat about you?



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janet reno would make such a great brandy alexander!

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LOL. Especially if it was, like, the South Park Janet Reno.

LOLOL. Invisible Monsters should be made into an animated movie by Matt Stone and Trey Parker.



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BWUAHAHAHAHA!!!

i can see it now - "The Will & Odd World Stalking Tour, for the summer of 2003!"

i do like the idea of having an actual transgendered person in the part, though. :)

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LOL

Should I pack underwear?

If yes, that means I will have to go out and buy some ;).



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that is entirely up to your own personal prefference.

far be it from me to tell a man what to put between himself and his levi strauss.

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Ha ha!

I don't really wear pants, either!

Did I mention Kalamazoo is really code for, "Nudist Colony?"

And why aren't you in chat with me?