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According to Amazon and almost every other book selling website the page count on this book is 256 pages... Which i will deduce, just from this, that this book is going to be fulfilling...

This is all an assumption based on the fact that snuff felt really, really short -- whereas alot of people felt that they were ripped off... Mind you that Snuff was 197 pages...

I havent read the book, but judging from some reviews I've been reading, everyone is complaining about the broken english of the narrative that is throwing them off. Some have stated that it would have been better off being a short story written in this broken english-style.

Maybe, i dont know.

All i'm saying is that normally, for me atleast and others, the page count of a book might give the book some promise based on his other novels.

Think about 256 is 59 more pages than 197. On average, assuming six pages per chapter, that is about 10 chapters extra --

What if snuff had ten more chapters?

This sounds rediculous - but eh I thought it was something to point out.

For all i know he could just be beating the same horse for the last ten chapters and the novel will suck...

Either way -- what do you guys think of this theory?

The more pages - thicker the book, in Chuck standards - the better the novel?....

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Haunted's his longest book and is also complete shit, so i'd say your theory is false.

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Damnit! You said it before I managed to...

I was going to say that I personally loved haunted... The seperate short stories were amazing on their own... The interwoven story of them slowly self-destructing in the mansion was also good too --

So i guess it FURTHER proves my theory, in preference to me and some people I've talked to, that the thicker the book the better...

Haunted's his longest book and is also complete shit, so i'd say your theory is false.

So you didn't enjoy any aspect of Haunted? Guts? Punch-Drunk? Mr. Whittier's story? How bout the child-sex dolls?

There has to be SOMETHING you liked...

And I'll confess that there are a shitload of people here that would agree with you on that -- not alot of people liked Haunted, i forget why... I think they said something about him just cramming together a bunch of short stories and having a weak storyline in between to tie them in... But eh, I liked it because i couldnt have done better and i dont think anybody else could have

I could be wrong.

But just to reiterate my statement in regards to page count - the thicker the book the more I, me, enjoy it. To me short books are too much of a tease.

Then again, like Chuck said, thick books, like Haunted, have to have something horrible happening every seven pages, or so. Like in Haunted...

Maybe Pygmy will have something horrible happening every three pages or so to keep the reader from passing out.

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I still swear i saw somewhere on here that Haunted was supposed to be like 100 pages even longer. I think it would have been MUCH better if it was, build up those characters more, so they didn't just all sound like the same person. Which if you go with the theory that it is just one person telling them all I guess works but it's not that great of a read that way.

anwyays, to those that have read the arc. the whole book isn't in that broken english is it? I don't think i could take that for 200+ pages.

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Its 240.

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chubbz wrote:

Maybe Pygmy will have something horrible happening every three pages or so to keep the reader from passing out.

I heard the horrible thing happening happens on every page and it's the writing.
I'm sure it'll sell millions, but from what i heard about it, i've no desire to read it.
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I heard the horrible thing happening happens on every page and it's the writing.
I'm sure it'll sell millions, but from what i heard about it, i've no desire to read it

Bummer.

anwyays, to those that have read the arc. the whole book isn't in that broken english is it? I don't think i could take that for 200+ pages.

Yeah i read someone's review on a forum that it pissed them off the broken english because where the book would be a quick read it took longer trying to figure out what was being said...

Someone said, on the same forum where the review was, that it was a bad idea to have the WHOLE book in broken english, that it would be good as a short story but not a novel....

My question is how different is this from Irvine Welsh's novel Trainspotting -- that shit took me a while to get a gist of too..

Then again its a dialect that people speak.. And I'm pretty sure Pygmy's dialect of broken english isn't the same broken english immigrants and non-native speakers use... Or is it?

As to you, ejrathke, what was the last palahniuk book you read that you enjoyed?

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Barca Boy wrote:
Its 240.

my gallery is 241 pages

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haunted rocked

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pygmy rocked more, and there are a few reviews around here on it if youre looking for spoilers

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okay. as close to a spoiler as i'll give re: the broken english. they arent just a random set of random words. they are a focused system of specific words. after a few chapters it was no longer hard to follow.

i understand the reason chuck did this, and yet again he came up with an entirely new way of having his story told hahaha

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okay. as close to a spoiler as i'll give re: the broken english. they arent just a random set of random words. they are a focused system of specific words. after a few chapters it was no longer hard to follow.

i understand the reason chuck did this, and yet again he came up with an entirely new way of having his story told hahaha

Shit like this make me BEYOND anxious for the book...

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shit like that makes me think i'll be taking a pass on this one.

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How come?

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chubbz wrote:

As to you, ejrathke, what was the last palahniuk book you read that you enjoyed?

I read most of them in succession. I read Fight Club followed by Choke, followed by Survivor, then Diary, and, finally, Haunted. I hated most of Haunted but pushed through it anyway because i just can't quit a book. I enjoyed the other four initially, though Fight Club, Choke, and Survivor are basically the same book in that they all follow the same formula and structure. Diary, i enjoyed, though most didn't. As time's gone on, the only ones i still really like are Fight Club and Survivor. Choke, while funny, was wholly forgettable and, to be honest, i did forget most of it.
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You didn't read or like Rant?

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Nope, though it does seem interesting. I might give it a look eventually. Honestly, i think i'm done with Chuck. There are too many other authors and books out there that're more talented and more interesting for me to choose Chuck over them.

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You should totally check out Rant simply for its complexity and the fact that it deals with alot of themes that he hasn't done yet - except of course the theme of death - i HIGHLY recommend it...

There are too many other authors and books out there that're more talented and more interesting for me to choose Chuck over them.

Very well said although it might seem as if I'm saying to devote your life to JUST chuck.. I'm not -

I love Kurt Vonnegut, Irvine Welsh, Junot Diaz and a bunch of others that i can't name off the top of my head - but yeah...

None the less -- you should still give Rant a chance

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chubbz wrote:
How come?

an entire book like that? echhh, it's just too much. That plus a shaky premise lifted from a simpsons cartoon and a rehashed Project Mayhem?
I'm sure it might be a fun little read though. it'll be like gorging yourself on literary chocolate bon-bons. I'm just trying to "eat" healthier lately.
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it'll be like gorging yourself on literary chocolate bon-bons. I'm just trying to "eat" healthier lately.

That's too much of a good image to pass up...

I keep hearing this stuff about that Simpson episode -- you wouldnt happen to know the title of the episode? I'd love to watch it -- although i'm a futurama addict, I love simpsons too (not as much as futurama)

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