why rant wanted to stop himself from being born?
what reasoning did rant have for doing this??? anyone. i know he wanted to and apparently did accomplish this but seriously, why.
and if he actually did... how would all these people remember rant? so how would the book be written.. fuck this is confusing.
Rant's birth is the result of his mother getting raped.
If you could prevent your mom from being raped wouldnt you?... In turn preventing your birth.
Now reverse that, you stop your birth -- you stop that horrific event from occurring.
The overall idea of the book is that it was a "true story" so that Rant might've been succesful in stopping his own birth in turn making this "true story" fictional... Get me?... I said this in another thread.
Yeah dude, he's just asking the same questions with different words and starting other threads.
he didn't want to be born because he was an emo bitch.
That's what I thought. WTF was Chubbz talking about?
[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;1123355]That's what I thought. WTF was Chubbz talking about?[/QUOTE]
I don't know -- it's one of my flaws of reading too much into things and going astray with my own personal issues....
On the topic of emo...
What is the actual clear cut definition of emo music? -- 'Cos "emotional music" pretty much categorizes everything - right?
IMHO - Rant knew this book would get made if he were born and then we'd buy it and read it and be so dissapointed that we wouldn't even want to use it to hold up the shaky table leg... so instead, Rant knew we'd spend hours trying to discuss it like there's something to 'get' because we're too afraid to realize it's just a handful of recycled characters barfed into a ridiculous plot with only a couple interesting scenes to hold our attention.
Or maybe that's just me.
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[QUOTE=chubbz;1123996]I don't know -- it's one of my flaws of reading too much into things and going astray with my own personal issues....
On the topic of emo...
What is the actual clear cut definition of emo music? -- 'Cos "emotional music" pretty much categorizes everything - right?[/QUOTE]
Emo music happens a kid (usually no older than 14) thinks his life is over because his girlfriend dumps him and he proceeds to write a song about it using only the G, C and Em chords.
Then, he takes the song and tours the cities' various open mics and croons away in his depressed state, hoping his music will make some new girl take pity on him.
Unfortunately, he's so wrapped up in his whiny little songs that he must stay depressed to write any new material, or even be able to perform the stuff he has. The new girl quickly grows tired of him because of this and dumps him, spurning a whole new set of songs about her.
Repeat until the kid has enough songs to do a 45 minute set, one song for every girl who has dumped him. (It's a vicious cycle)
By the time he's any good at guitar (He's learned E, C, A, and occasionally throws in an Fmaj7) the only thing he can sing about is breakups.
He records a CD and 14 year old girls dig it, so record execs eventually bite if they think they can make money of him.
He's now 24 and much too old to be singing about middle- and high-school breakups (not to mention living in mom's basement) but it's the formula that works for him, so he must continue to dress and sing and write music like teenager, only now he plays a $3,000 Gibson acoustic and has one person on his road crew dedicated to making sure his groupies are 18 and over before they're allowed backstage for.. you know.
Hehe, that's emo in a nutshell.
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[QUOTE=ireLocus;1124002]IMHO - Rant knew this book would get made if he were born and then we'd buy it and read it and be so [B]dissapointed[/B] that we wouldn't even want to use it to hold up the shaky table leg... so instead, Rant knew we'd spend hours trying to discuss it like there's something to 'get' because we're too afraid to realize it's just a handful of recycled characters barfed into a ridiculous plot with only a couple interesting scenes to hold our attention.
Or maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]I'm just glad I'm not the only one that sometimes spells 'disappointed' with two 's's.
Thanks for the def. So emo is only music that covers relationship break-ups? I don't think thats ALL of it. I mean, it can't be THAT popular... Right?... What bands are emo?
Oh, yeah I write it with two 's's and two 'p's 'till i realize it looks irregular...
I think Rant's desire to stop his mom from getting raped comes in two fold, of course the most obvious is that no one wants their mother to be raped, and the other is the same reasoning as killing your parents. If you prevent yourself from being born, you would therefore become immortal. You would not be born in one time line, and therefore could never die.
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He wanted to stop his mother from being raped, 1, because his mother was 'destined' for bigger & better things than treading placid water in that little town. and 2, to stop (insert name) from creating, or recreating himself if you will, into something that never dies, and never ends, and by the end of the book never started... but Rant does not accomplish it.. it seems you guys didnt catch that Rant was actually his father as well.. definitely one of those books that deserves a 2nd and possibly a 3rd read.
I grow and raise solar powered plastic plants..
Rant goes back in time to stop green taylor simms from raping irene but he doesnt succeed and instead helps her raise himself. so Rant is also Chet casey and this also means that none of the Rants are immortal.
I deman all this questions go directly to chuck!!!!
Their is about 2-5 people every month asking questions!
Damn you Palahniuk and your head spining fiction!