Plagiarist Palahniuk

Interesting that people compare the movie Crash (which I haven't seen) to Rant, because Dirty Filthy Rancid Vile Degenerate Shit-Ridden Roger Ebert dissed Fight Club and cited Crash in doing so. People are constantly making connections between Fight Club and Rant.

are you high

[QUOTE=Giggan;980769]Interesting that people compare the movie Crash (which I haven't seen) to Rant, because Dirty Filthy Rancid Vile Degenerate Shit-Ridden Roger Ebert dissed Fight Club and cited Crash in doing so. People are constantly making connections between Fight Club and Rant.[/QUOTE]

it's been a while since i've said this, but i think it's appropriate:
wtf, over?

i should add here that i don't think any of this makes chuck a plagiarist.

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;979648]For the record, it [i]was[/i] hilarious![/QUOTE]

Thought so. Wasn't sure. Thanks for confirming.

um guys? chuck is an amazing author. and if you could write something as spectacular as he can, then please, speak your peace. but seriously. so what if chuck stole an idea? are you all saying that you are 100% original? rant is a better story than crash. THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.

[QUOTE=trenton welles;981112]i should add here that i don't think any of this makes chuck a plagiarist.[/QUOTE]

here, here my friend.

i totally agree.

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;977766]Anyways, I was going to start another thread on this topic so this dumb one doesn't keep getting bumped, on how there's no new ideas and all, but what's important is the different views all of us have on all these same old topics. But didn't see it going any further than everyone saying "yeah, you're right" and therefore being a boring thread.
if anyone thinks of anything more to discuss with that go ahead and make one.[/QUOTE]

It is true, there are no new or original ideas at all. Not even events. Human history has been and will continue to be controlled and shaped by Tramalfadorians for their own use.

We are all tools.

[QUOTE=aiyoku;981245]It is true, there are no new or original ideas at all. Not even events. Human history has been and will continue to be controlled and shaped by Tramalfadorians for their own use.

We are all tools.[/QUOTE]

Vonnegut, hooah!

Why won't this thread die?
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[QUOTE=aiyoku;981245]It is true, there are no new or original ideas at all. Not even events. Human history has been and will continue to be controlled and shaped by Tramalfadorians for their own use.

We are all tools.[/QUOTE]

how can we escape history when we insist on repeating it? how do we have a new idea when 90% of our daily thoughts are simply regurgitated thoughts of our cumulative years?

[QUOTE=trenton welles;981452]how can we escape history when we insist on repeating it? how do we have a new idea when 90% of our daily thoughts are simply regurgitated thoughts of our cumulative years?[/QUOTE]
Shit, man, how should we know?
wait wait wait... i got it.[U] You die.[/U]

[QUOTE=trenton welles;981452]how can we escape history when we insist on repeating it? how do we have a new idea when 90% of our daily thoughts are simply regurgitated thoughts of our cumulative years?[/QUOTE]
Really though, that's a very good point. I suggest you start a thread for people to discuss it.

It's funny to see how someone can call something a rip-off when that someone hasn't read that something.

[QUOTE=Instigator;972389] [...] about Rant (which I have not read)[...] [/QUOTE]

"the concrete island" is the book by ballard where the main character spends most of the novel trapped on a median. "Crash" is the book where the characters get off on car crashes in a sexual way.

Chuck didn't borrow the story from anyone. It was wholly his own. He found a social event called Party Crashing and included it in his novel.

Just because an idea sounds similiar to another idea doesn't make it the same thing. And you, Instigator, said yourself that you hadn't read "Rant". But you scream, HE STOLE IT! HE STOLE IT! You don't know jack shit, my friend. I suggest you do a little RESEARCH before you start pointing your finger at someone for something that they didn't do.

Oh yeah and fuck you, too.

[QUOTE=trenton welles;981452]how can we escape history when we insist on repeating it? how do we have a new idea when 90% of our daily thoughts are simply regurgitated thoughts of our cumulative years?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]That’s why, the moment I saw Guy Pearce in [I]Memento[/I], I knew finally someone was telling my story. Here was a movie about the predominant art form of our time:

Note taking.

All my friends with Palm Pilots and cell phones, they’re always calling themselves and leaving reminders to themselves about what’s about to happen. We leave Post-It notes for ourselves. We go to that shop in the mall, the one where they engrave whatever shit you want on a silver-plated box or a fountain pen, and we get a reminder for every special event that life goes by too fast for us to remember. We buy those picture frames where you record your message on a sound chip. We videotape everything! Oh, and now there’s those digital cameras so we can all e-mail around our photos—this century’s equivalent of the boring vacation slide show. We organize and reorganize. We record and archive.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.metaphilm.com/philms/memento.html[/url]

I only bump this tread to say that there´s a new Evidence against Chuck, apparently he stole the idea for lullaby from [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mpqXu0z3wU]here[/URL]

[QUOTE=kakunn;1037111]I only bump this tread to say that there´s a new wvidence against Chuck, apparently he stole the idea for lullaby from [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mpqXu0z3wU]here[/URL][/QUOTE]
thats hilarious!

You all missed the more obvious source material for Rant.  A Futurama episode entitled "Roswell that Ends Well."  December 9 2001.

The link.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_That_Ends_Well     Fry is his own grandfather.  Which changed his brain waves so he could defeat the evil brains in the future.

The party crashing is only a fraction of what the novel is about. It's more or less about time travel, and the ways in which they do it. They use party crashing as a means to go back in time, but it's much more complicated than that. It deals with contracting rabies, as well as a long and twisted story about Rant and his father.

My advice: before ripping on someone, do your homework. You can't not read something, yet still try to justify what it "is". If it were plagerism at all, Chuck would have used the same characters and story line... and I am SURE that whoever the author of Crash was, could/would not have come up with such a twisting and compelling story line... (I'll even read his book to varify that he most probably can not).

That's too funny.

Suglia's Watch Out is being being made into a movie by Steve Balderson.

I'm gonna get an overhead clip of me raising my fists into the air and yelling out "SUGLIAAAAA!!" and plagiarize Wrath of Khan. it'll be awesome!

All books are rip offs.  As it's been pointed out that chuck has acknowledged his art of theivery, and that's really a big theme in his stories: stories about people telling stories about things that allready happened.

Everything's allready been done (where have we heard that one before? ahem) that's what education is, it's learning about things that other people have learned about before and are telling you. that's what creation is, it's finding new ways to experience and reinvent  ideas.

But truthfully, Rant is a rip-off ....

of books by Chuck Palahniuk.

 You know, there is the possibility that Chuck came up with this on his own and didn't even read Crash.It reminds me of my friend who made this short movie about a guy with an alter ego only he can see that keeps shadowing him. The guy can't take the alter ego anymore so he puts a gun in his mouth and shoots. Sound familiar?And my friend's never seen or read Fight Club.

So yea, it's definitely possible.

 Hahahaha, when I listened to the audiobook I thought of both that and the "I'm my own grandpa" song from The Stupids.

at first I was angered by this comment wondering how could anyone think chuck palahniuk does plagiarizes but then I discovered the real reason behind your comment; ignorance about his meaning. his books take concepts, all types, and turns them on their ear. Whether it is religion, sex, drugs, or society he takes all these themes and twist them sharing his philosophy. Rant is such a case, bring in time travel, segregation and more to 'rant' about life. He does not create new concepts rather chances them, I it is brilliantly done.his writing style reflects the character's, you cannot expect nighttimers with a clear lack of education to speak eloquently, do you not recall the whole chapter by the theorist and writer, it was full of "big words." thus I forgive your comment for you must not know any better than to censor him on a fan site.

or you could have just said it in one sentence....

There's nothing new under the sun....

Man, I could repeat that all day to everyone I see. ALL DAY.

sorry, that came out rude. I didn't mean to be rude.

oh, clearly. every few months, im like, "there it is, again."

not that i really care. i dont even remember this dude's name anymore. some threads are just meant to die slow and painfully, i guess-