Plagiarist Palahniuk

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We're all plagiarist bastards

crashing cars and the enjoyment of it is sort of a universal thing maybe, i know i grew up collecting hot wheels and matchbox cars and wrecking them on highways built in dirt. people watch races hoping hoping for a good wreck, there's nothing like a freeway pile up to stimulate the looky-loos, i'm sort of surprised more books don't address this, every book could use a good car wreck, there's worse plot devices.

[QUOTE=tomstrong83;975757]This thread has become a cycling copy of itself
We're all plagiarist bastards[/QUOTE]

Very good point. No matter what, people will end up copying each other to a certain extent based on the sole fact that everything has been said. Even that has been said a million times. I'm sure what i just said now has already been said, which proves my point (as well as the point of every other person who has already made the point.) By no stretch of the imagination is Palahniuk a plagiarizer any more than anyone else is.

[QUOTE=morey;975868]crashing cars and the enjoyment of it is sort of a universal thing...[/QUOTE]

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umm...guys? you do realize you're argueing with a brick wall, right?

yeah, i don't think Instigator has been in this thread since he started it

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ft knox, eh? another soldier? or a brat?

[QUOTE=izen;976037]ft knox, eh? another soldier? or a brat?[/QUOTE]

Brat. I still take orders from the Col. though, and for longer than anyone else ever had to.

The family was stationed in Munich when I was conceived (however poorly) and moved stateside to Ft Knox where I was born. Big John was an advisor to General Westmoreland in '70-'72 when we lived in Woodbridge.

Y'all getting what you need there? We send boxes over all the time at my day-job.

"This lymphatic Oyster, whose charms and favours were sought by all adenoids of good breeding, found it difficult to decline the Pumpkin Goblin's invitation to Nabokov's beheading" has never been said before.

i wanna crash a fucking car right now, not mine though, everyone elses, i don't like cars or the ugly faces driving them, they stink up this town.

hey, I just had a thought:
This thread has become a cycling copy of itself
We're all plagiarist bastards

from a bunch of hypnotized cunts who can't see past their worthless God du Jour?

Fuck the lot of youse close-minded myopic muppets. Not a mind of your own amongst you.

G.

[QUOTE=Instigator;976814]from a bunch of hypnotized cunts who can't see past their worthless God du Jour?

Fuck the lot of youse close-minded myopic muppets. Not a mind of your own amongst you.

G.[/QUOTE]

:bling1:

[QUOTE=Instigator;976814]from a bunch of hypnotized cunts who can't see past their worthless God du Jour?

Fuck the lot of youse close-minded myopic muppets. Not a mind of your own amongst you.

G.[/QUOTE]

At least we're not posting asinine posts where they're unwelcome, counter-productive and stinking of fanny batter.

[QUOTE=Instigator;976814]from a bunch of hypnotized cunts who can't see past their worthless God du Jour?

Fuck the lot of youse close-minded myopic muppets. Not a mind of your own amongst you.

G.[/QUOTE]

the smiley face threw me off... are you joking, or happy to have gotten your say?

[QUOTE=Instigator;976814]from a bunch of hypnotized cunts who can't see past their worthless God du Jour?

Fuck the lot of youse close-minded myopic muppets. Not a mind of your own amongst you.

G.[/QUOTE]

Oh Instigator, you are so much better than all the rest. You have put in so much effort and put forth such well-thought-out and well-reasoned posts backed up by quotes from all of the relevant source materials. It is [I]so[/I] impressive, it makes me wonder how you could have a day job. My hero :rolleyes: :sigh1:

Guys, don't bother responding to this quack. He pops up every book looking for attention. See you next year!

And thanks for the "cunt." You should know that word has been reclaimed by feminists and corellion for sometime now.

Didn't read crash, Don't need to.

And its true, and so sad, It has become so difficult to create an original idea, It kills me. I hope it is because i am close minded, but Palahniuk is no Plagiarist.

If you think you're doing something special, it's been done.

[QUOTE=Dr.Jekyll&Mr.Hyde;976868]Guys, don't bother responding to this quack. He pops up every book looking for attention. See you next year![/QUOTE]

What would be really funny is if it was Chuck posting those messages to jerk our chain. Oh yeah, I forgot, Chuck actually has a life.

Beautiful alliteration! You now make profession of this!

[QUOTE=Adelheid;977730]Beautiful alliteration! You now make profession of this![/QUOTE]

I'm getting this feeling like Adelheid's posts are getting posted into the wrong threads :confused:

Two P's "meatthinker".

[QUOTE=Adelheid;977735]Two P's "meatthinker".[/QUOTE]

there wasn't even a second P in his post, let alone thinking it was alliterative.

Plagiarist Palahniuk, two P's, no? Everyone moves on before I do.

That's why the quote feature is so important. You meant the guy that started this thread and not meatthinkers post like it looked like to everyone else on planet Earth.

Anyways, I was going to start another thread on this topic so this dumb one doesn't keep getting bumped, on how there's no new ideas and all, but what's important is the different views all of us have on all these same old topics. But didn't see it going any further than everyone saying "yeah, you're right" and therefore being a boring thread.
if anyone thinks of anything more to discuss with that go ahead and make one.

[QUOTE=morey;972398]there's two crash movies, one is based on the ballard book from the seventies and sorry chuck but rant sounds pretty close.[/QUOTE]

i have to agree. i though of crash as well when i started reading it.

I haven't read crash but was there anything else besides car crashes that made them seem similar? because, you know, there's a helluva lot of vampire books out there and I don't hear anyone saying they're all swinging on Stoker's nuts.

car crash cult? I wouldn't have gone near it, especially since ballard spawned chuckstyle writers.

If he spawned them, shouldn't they be ballardstyle writers?

the interesting thing is that i only ever watched the movie crash, never read the book, but i have to admit i did make that association to crash as i started reading rant.

the idea is different enough, but its alarming that people are making that association period.

still it was a great book. so well written as usual. but like i said on another thread, i wish chuck had just written a straight up novel. but maybe once i read it again i'll feel differently.

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;978927]I haven't read crash but was there anything else besides car crashes that made them seem similar? because, you know, there's a helluva lot of vampire books out there and I don't hear anyone saying they're all swinging on Stoker's nuts.[/QUOTE]
I thought Crash was dull and unremarkable. It was a big disappointment. Haven't seen the movie though. And haven't read Rant, either. So I have nothing left to say.

[QUOTE=trenton welles;979077]the interesting thing is that i only ever watched the movie crash, never read the book, but i have to admit i did make that association to crash as i started reading rant.

the idea is different enough, but its alarming that people are making that association period.

still it was a great book. so well written as usual. but like i said on another thread, i wish chuck had just written a straight up novel. but maybe once i read it again i'll feel differently.[/QUOTE]

You found your thread dude!!! I'm thinking the sequels (once again, if this is true) will be written in more of the style that you are used to.

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;978939]If he spawned them, shouldn't they be ballardstyle writers?[/QUOTE]

Excellent (not to mention hilarious) point.

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979087]Excellent (not to mention hilarious) point.[/QUOTE]
Is it hilarious?

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;978939]If he spawned them, shouldn't they be ballardstyle writers?[/QUOTE]
ballard's the daddy, chucks the son/daughter, and clevenger et al are the grandbabies.

[QUOTE=xec8;979088]Is it hilarious?[/QUOTE]

Is it not?

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979096]Is it not?[/QUOTE]
You tell me.

It made me laugh. Histarically? Not so much. But, on the other hand, laughing is something I don't find myself doing often enough anymore. It's not that I don't hear/read/see amusing things throughout my day, it's more that my humor level has been raised in my old age. It takes something a little witty, a little fun, dash of sarcasm. My recipe for hilarity. I sense that we disagree.

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979086]You found your thread dude!!! I'm thinking the sequels (once again, if this is true) will be written in more of the style that you are used to.[/QUOTE]

lol i'm not always that quick on the uptake, but eventually i get a clue.

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979099]It made me laugh. Histarically? Not so much. But, on the other hand, laughing is something I don't find myself doing often enough anymore. It's not that I don't hear/read/see amusing things throughout my day, it's more that my humor level has been raised in my old age. It takes something a little witty, a little fun, dash of sarcasm. My recipe for hilarity. I sense that we disagree.[/QUOTE]
I challenge you to a duel.

[QUOTE=xec8;979254]I challenge you to a duel.[/QUOTE]

Underneath the old willow tree around 3?

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979342]Underneath the old willow tree around 3?[/QUOTE]
Your fate is sealed, O [I]provocateur[/I].

fags

[QUOTE=xec8;972405]His writing was always "shite", and the condescension isn't implicit, it's pretty damn obvious. Look carefully and you'll see that many of us find his recent stuff unimpressive, just the way you do.[/QUOTE]
Just to note, Rant is the first of Chuck's books I truly enjoyed since Choke. Also, people have been using other people's ideas to fuel their own ideas since who knows when. Just because Rant and Crash both feature people who like to crash their cars for shits and giggles doesn't mean Chuck ripped off Ballard. To be honest, reading Rant felt more like he was ripping off Fight Club than anything else, but the ideas he was striving for in Fight Club he was clarifying in Rant. So really, until you actually read the book, instigator, you don't really have a foot to stand on in this argument.

[QUOTE=xec8;979347]Your fate is sealed, O [I]provocateur[/I].[/QUOTE]

I just want everyont in the forum to know that I just got back from the willow tree and Xec8 was a no-show. Just as I suspected, all talk... I mean all type. LOL

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979393]I just want everyont in the forum to know that I just got back from the willow tree and Xec8 was a no-show. Just as I suspected, all talk... I mean all type. LOL[/QUOTE]
I blame my gastric problems.

[QUOTE=bigshrimpn;979393]I just want everyont in the forum to know that I just got back from the willow tree and Xec8 was a no-show. Just as I suspected, all talk... I mean all type. LOL[/QUOTE]
Count of Monte Crisco?

For the record, it [i]was[/i] hilarious!