A little help, please? *spoilers*

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Surviving.Mike
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So I just finished Rant, and loved it, but I'm a little confused. Maybe I'm missing something here, but who was the woman who was alive in the car-to-train accident? Everyone was dead except for her, who was in perfect condition? How did this happen, and who was she?

Also, was there any mention as to where Wax went? Or what he did?

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i assume you mean tina, was that her name, on the radio.

she slipped, or whats the word they use in the book for people who can time travel?

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No, i think you meaqn the women who they talk about who claims to be one hundred and sixty three. she was just an example of a historian. she was just there to show that what they were talking about was real and not a bunch of myths and stories. she was one who went back and killed her parents so she couldn't die or get injured. she was party crashing and she killed everyone in the car with her. as for waxman, he went back and killed his parents too. they don't say where he went v=because when you kill your parents and become immortal, you destroy your history, because you have no history, no one can remember you. hope i helped.

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The "163 year old woman" who looks 25 was wearing a burned up wedding dress.

Have to assume she's a historian who was out party crashing with no concern for her well-being - because she'll live forever.

Wax witnesses her walking away, and tells Tina that that's what he wants. Then we hear how Wax disappears, and Tina finds out that his parents are dead, and he's fading from memory.

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I don't know guys, I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually a major character or at least someone who appears somewhere else in the book. From what I've noticed about this book, it seems like everything is interconnected as much as possible. I'm beyond excited for the sequels.

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My guess on who this 25 year old woman is, is she is Tina Something.
That would explain the long look she exchanged with Waxman. I suppose she was there to show what immortality could to a person. When Tina finds out about Wax flashbacking and resolving his origins (killing his parents), she is repulsed by the idea. When she meets Wax for the last time, she refuses to get in the car with him and warns the other Party Crashers not to get in the car either. She clearly demonstrates how WRONG she thinks what Wax did, is. But at the end of the book, the last we hear from Tina is something like: "The rest of you, enjoy your deaths".
So I suppose she traveled back in time, killed her parents and thus became immortal. Then she must have traveled several more times, because with no fear of death, and (due to immortality) no limit to how many tries you have, it must be easier to reach theta-brain waves before a crash, thus travel in time.
Even if this is not Tina, this girl must have traveled several times. If time truly is like a chain-link fence, then, to make sure you become immortal, you have to kill your parents to make sure time doesn't "fix itselt". So at the age of 25, this girl traveled back in time to kill her parents and then continued to time travel for many, MANY years. OR, she first time-traveled in the late 1800:s.
So, the two reasons for having this girl in the book at all are:
1. She is Tina and her change of personality demonstrates what becoming a Historian does to you, proving how maybe Simms wasn't evil to begin with, if he is in fact a Historian, as the book claims.
2. She is a girl who time-traveled a long time ago, maybe before the time of cars, proving there are other ways to time-travel and therefore that it could have been done for thousands of years.

If anyone had the time and energy to read all this ranting, thank you!
Let me know what you think.
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I don't think the train crash woman is Tina. If you're right that Tina succeeded in killing her parents (or ancestors higher up the chain) and becoming a historian, then the Tina Something that is interviewed for the book wouldn't exist, right?

I assumed the woman in the train crash was Amber Nye, simply because the train crash woman mysteriously appears, while Amber mysteriously disappears (pg. 303), as if Amber succeeded in Reverse Pioneering. Amber is one of the few (if not the only) women in the book with a long enough loose end that she could be tied in anywhere else in the story. CP introduces her in one chapter, then drops her in the very same chapter, which doesn't seem like a very CP-thing to do. Seems like there should be something more...

But I'm probably just making this stuff up and looking for connections where there are none. The story really doesn't provide enough evidence to back up this claim.

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hari_kari_lord wrote:
I don't think the train crash woman is Tina. If you're right that Tina succeeded in killing her parents (or ancestors higher up the chain) and becoming a historian, then the Tina Something that is interviewed for the book wouldn't exist, right?

I assumed the woman in the train crash was Amber Nye, simply because the train crash woman mysteriously appears, while Amber mysteriously disappears (pg. 303), as if Amber succeeded in Reverse Pioneering. Amber is one of the few (if not the only) women in the book with a long enough loose end that she could be tied in anywhere else in the story. CP introduces her in one chapter, then drops her in the very same chapter, which doesn't seem like a very CP-thing to do. Seems like there should be something more...

But I'm probably just making this stuff up and looking for connections where there are none. The story really doesn't provide enough evidence to back up this claim.

I completely thought that it had to be Tina until I had read this. Interesting point of view.

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