Jail

how do people scratch words into the paint when they take away everything sharp?

Are you allowed to play video games?

[QUOTE=lofivinyl]how do people scratch words into the paint when they take away everything sharp?[/QUOTE]uhm we had pens, pencils and at one point I had a full set of markers, also they repaint every couple of years.

[QUOTE=Nightrious]Are you allowed to play video games?[/QUOTE]Dude you need to stop playing video games, get a girlfriend. but this does bring to mind that although we had full cable MTV was blocked cause it caused too many fights.

What were you in jail for?

[QUOTE=Nightrious]What were you in jail for?[/QUOTE]Subsatnce abuse shit, and about the girlfriend seeking; they're out there.

how's the food?
are you allowed books?
where do you piss, shit, barf?
did it help you?

[QUOTE=snuffy]how's the food?
are you allowed books?
where do you piss, shit, barf?
did it help you?[/QUOTE]Well the food is grotesque and I could do an entire thread on it, example being this wad of meat we were served that we called 'Cathead', guess why? Originally we could have any book we wanted but the last time I was there they had passed a policy so's you could only have books that were either spiritual or educational.

did it help you?

my sister (in jail) tells me that she makes mashed potatoes with potato chips and tons of those little creamers and butter and salt and pepper. any jailhouse recipes?

[QUOTE=big S]my sister (in jail) tells me that she makes mashed potatoes with potato chips and tons of those little creamers and butter and salt and pepper. any jailhouse recipes?[/QUOTE]
YES and thanks for asking; the jailhouse burrito. You take smokies, Cheezits, rama noodles, ketchup and whatever and smoosh the heck out of em, roll em up in a bag that goods come in, then put it under the mattress for about an hour and you have what I found to be a hideous treat. A turd.

[QUOTE=snuffy]did it help you?[/QUOTE]
Certainly not, its just a holding pen for life. Moat people do belong there though...permente'

how long where you held up?

[QUOTE=snuffy]how long where you held up?[/QUOTE]My longest stretch was 9 months, you can only imagine how bad that was.

[QUOTE=morey]My longest stretch was 9 months, you can only imagine how bad that was.[/QUOTE]

jeeze. that's awful.

oh, and what can you do for excercise?

The most fascinating thing I've read about jails and inmates was about the Aryan Brotherhood in an article in The New Yorker. Recently. I found it at my health club of all places, and I"m sorry I can't recall the exact issue. It discussed how they communicate in complex code, the relationship between the outside/inside world, the formation of the gangs and how they grew state-wide, etc. Just like terrorist cells, really. Anyway, anyone writing about jails/inmates should look this article up. I found a link where the writer of the article is interviewed by another writer. . . [url]http://www.newyorker.com/online/content/?040216on_onlineonly01[/url]

Okay, that article didn't do the subject nor the writer any justice. Trust me, I had absolutely no interest in jailbirds, but this article was brilliant. I hope this rings a bell for someone who has more info on it.

That is prison though, a whole different deal.

1. does the american jail system think that throwing people with drug-problems into jail, will help them?

2. i read what you were in for, but what was the step between doing the drugs and being in jail?

did you ever figure out fool-proof ways to escape?

[QUOTE=Wesley Sonck]1. does the american jail system think that throwing people with drug-problems into jail, will help them?

2. i read what you were in for, but what was the step between doing the drugs and being in jail?[/QUOTE]okay i am quite cynical about this, and no its just a scam by our government to bilk the tax payers. You-and hear me now-can not legislate sobriety.

[QUOTE=big S]did you ever figure out fool-proof ways to escape?[/QUOTE]I just did the did.

[QUOTE=morey]okay i am quite cynical about this, and no its just a scam by our government to bilk the tax payers. You-and hear me now-can not legislate sobriety.[/QUOTE]

and 2. the step between Q?

[QUOTE=morey]That is prison though, a whole different deal.[/QUOTE]

True, thanks for clarifying that distinction Morey. I got so flooded w/ the memory of the article I guess I flew on a tangent. Late night ideas are not always so bright in the a.m.

(Not knowing the source of that article was bugging me last night. It was one of those mindless things I do, when doing something else, that I never think impacts me at the time, but does days or months later... I"m gonna search that health club until I find the exact article today. It might've even come from a Vanity Fair article.) If I find it, maybe I"ll stick it in the Politics section or something and see if anyone else has read it or is interested in it or something. )

[QUOTE=Lisa]True, thanks for clarifying that distinction Morey. I got so flooded w/ the memory of the article I guess I flew on a tangent. Late night ideas are not always so bright in the a.m.

(Not knowing the source of that article was bugging me last night. It was one of those mindless things I do, when doing something else, that I never think impacts me at the time, but does days or months later... I"m gonna search that health club until I find the exact article today. It might've even come from a Vanity Fair article.) If I find it, maybe I"ll stick it in the Politics section or something and see if anyone else has read it or is interested in it or something. )[/QUOTE]Hi.

What are the guards like? I always figured that anyone who takes teh job of prison guard is probally a real scum bag/criminal himself. Guards ever beat anyone up or let the other prisoners beat them up?

The guards all had mullets.

what did you miss the most while in the stoney lonesome?

[QUOTE=snuffy]what did you miss the most while in the stoney lonesome?[/QUOTE]FREEDOM!

if you had to pick a specific item that you missed, what would that be?

Day to day schedule?
EX: Got up at 7am, given 35 mins to shit shower and shave, then to breakfast....etc.
Did you have to participate in any rehabby group therapy? See a shrink?

I do know that jail and rehab kill addicts. I am not an advocate of using either to sober anyone up. S'terrible. I'm all about the harm reduction.

How did your family/friends react to your going to jail?

Did you go all the times because of drugs?

Ah, and, what exactly is the difference between prison and jail. Jail is smaller?

It hurt my mom more than I can explain. or say..

[QUOTE=morey]It hurt my mom more than I can explain. or say..[/QUOTE]

I was going to say "I can imagine..." but in fact I can't really.

How old are you?

33 so's okay.

What are some of the movie/book stereotypes of jail that actually don't happen. Or maybe things that happen all the time that books and movies never go into.

My uncle has been in jail numerous times for drugs. It hasn't helped one bit. Not once have they suggested a rehab place or something else, just straight out jail. It fixes him for a while, but he's just addicted to religion, until he meets one of his old friends again.

My granny...his mom...I just realized all she had to go through. She used to have a police scanner with her all the time so she would know if my uncle ever got arrested. She would have to drive through all these bad neighborhoods looking for him too sometimes when he was gone for a couple days (lived at home). He was in his 20's and 30's when all of this was going on.

Can people send you stuff? I used to send my uncle letters when he had to stay like a year and a half, I think. Like if someone wanted to send you a book or a poster. I think I've seen posters in jails in the movies.

[QUOTE=snuffy]what did you miss the most while in the stoney lonesome?[/QUOTE]Also not being able to shave everday.

[QUOTE=S_Jae-Min]Day to day schedule?
EX: Got up at 7am, given 35 mins to shit shower and shave, then to breakfast....etc.
Did you have to participate in any rehabby group therapy? See a shrink?

I do know that jail and rehab kill addicts. I am not an advocate of using either to sober anyone up. S'terrible. I'm all about the harm reduction.[/QUOTE]Jail does absolutely nothing to stop addiction and on a national level there's only a three percent success rate out of rehabs. in jail they have aa, na and alcohol awareness classes, people go to them to get out of their cells.

[QUOTE=morey]It hurt my mom more than I can explain. or say..[/QUOTE]Also I always went because of alcohol/ drug realted lame ass crimes and i've never been in prison only jail.

What did you do all day?
Chore-wise?

[QUOTE=morey]Been there many times although not recently so ask the questions, but remember I'm talking county jail not the big house.[/QUOTE]

Do you ever run into people who are flat-out scared to be outside jail? I ask because I have a relative who has committed an escalating list of crimes (ultimately a federal offense that draws a 15 year manditory sentence), every time he is paroled.

His last time out, he preceded his bank robbery with stealing his mother's car, check book and credit cards. So the part about the pain of the mother, I get. I don't know you're specifics, but I know what this guy's actions did for his mother.

But he seems, to me, so terrified of the outside that I wonder if he does these things as a way back into his own element.

I have a friend who works as a county prison guard, and he's a decent guy on the whole but I don't think I'd want to be an inmate in his jail. How often do you get your cell tossed, typically? What's the most extreme example of a guard 'establishing authority' that you've experienced or witnessed?

We imprison people for nonviolent drug violations at a higher rate than any other country imprisons anyone for any reason (including China). What level of awareness in the jail population is there that a lot of the prisoners are locked up for being pawns in a political move? What percentage of your room mates (as it were) are guys who were just looking for a chemical vacation or providing one? I've thought for a long time that we've got enough prison cells to lock up the truly dangerous (child molesters, rapists, murderers) criminals for life because of the cells we've built for guys who just preferred pot to booze or cocaine to coffee. Am I right?

[QUOTE=SnowWhite]What did you do all day?
Chore-wise?[/QUOTE]In the morning you had to clean your cell, mop sweep etc, when i was in for awhile, (10 mos.) I became a trustee and worked in the kitchen, mainly slopping the food onto the trays. most of jail is laying around.

[QUOTE=Chixulub]Do you ever run into people who are flat-out scared to be outside jail? I ask because I have a relative who has committed an escalating list of crimes (ultimately a federal offense that draws a 15 year manditory sentence), every time he is paroled.

His last time out, he preceded his bank robbery with stealing his mother's car, check book and credit cards. So the part about the pain of the mother, I get. I don't know you're specifics, but I know what this guy's actions did for his mother.

But he seems, to me, so terrified of the outside that I wonder if he does these things as a way back into his own element.

I have a friend who works as a county prison guard, and he's a decent guy on the whole but I don't think I'd want to be an inmate in his jail. How often do you get your cell tossed, typically? What's the most extreme example of a guard 'establishing authority' that you've experienced or witnessed?

We imprison people for nonviolent drug violations at a higher rate than any other country imprisons anyone for any reason (including China). What level of awareness in the jail population is there that a lot of the prisoners are locked up for being pawns in a political move? What percentage of your room mates (as it were) are guys who were just looking for a chemical vacation or providing one? I've thought for a long time that we've got enough prison cells to lock up the truly dangerous (child molesters, rapists, murderers) criminals for life because of the cells we've built for guys who just preferred pot to booze or cocaine to coffee. Am I right?[/QUOTE]Yeah people like their comfort zones even if they suck its what they know, also these people are idiots they always think they'll get it right-crime wise-. The jail I've been in is always full of guys who started getting arrested when they were teenagers, they get put on probation, fuck that up and go back to jail it never ends. there's a saying here 'come on vacation stay on probation'.
As far as guards go I've never had a problem with them, i'm honest, i don't consider myself a victim and i have no reason to play dumb ass games so i was always treated with respect. Politics are always involved since judges and especially prosecuters like to rack up arrest and successfull prosecutions cause it looks good. My view is break the law and go to jail and really i don't want the scum on the street either and as far as someone like me well i don't want people driving around drunk either i deserved to be locked up but i also know that you can't legislate sobriety thats just about money.