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aphonicmessiah
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in order to make sure blood doesnt clot, what household medicine/chemical do you use?
once that happens, how does the hospital fix the problem (platelet infusion?)?

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Aspirin is probably the most generic med that most people will have in their house for anti-clotting effects.

If the person lives with someone "older" maybe they would have Coumadin or Heparin laying around. (more than likely coumadin than anything)

If you are really looking to stretch clot problems look up clot disorders where clotting factors are absent from your blood.

The antidote to a coumadin overdose is Vitamin K. Every baby gets a Vitamin K shot because when you're little you don't have enough of the natural flora in your intestines to produce clotting mechanisms. So, each your green leafy vegetables or get a Vit K shot in the arm.

I think the antidote to heparin is protamine sulfate or something. Don't quote me on that.

If you don't have many platetlets, you'll get an IV platelet infusion at the ER.

Hmmm, of the top of my head, that's all I've got right now.

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Warfarin (is/was) an anticoagulant used as a rat poison. Allegedly the rats would bleed to death. Warm water (like a warm bath) is supposed to ease pain and prevent blood clotting.

On average, though, wrist-cutting is an inefficient and unreliable suicide method.

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aphonicmessiah
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theres a story im writing in which the lead character tries to off himself.
what i have written is that he downs a bottle of ibuprofin, gets into the tub, and slices his wrists.
his girlfriend calls the paramedics when she finds him. they give him a platelet infusion and stitch him up.

im just not sure whether or not this would be at all correct.

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no response?

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From Google...
[QUOTE]A slash wound to the arm would cause bleeding and possible muscle, nerve or tendon damage. For emergency treatment in the field, bleeding would be controlled by use of direct pressure on the wound itself (snap on the latex first). Once in the ER, if only the muscle and skin were affected, the blood vessels would be tied off or cauterized to stop the bleeding, and the skin sutured shut with silk, nylon or teflon sutures. [Surgical wounds from operations, especially of the abdomen, chest and leg, are usually stapled shut.] Tendon and nerve damage would necessitate surgery, with not always perfect results. The same slash wound across the throat, however, would sever the carotid arteries, the jugular veins and possibly the trachea, causing death within a minute or two. [/QUOTE]

I don't think EMTs are going to do infusions in the field. Depending on the amount of blood lost, they may give glucose in a drip. The reason they call them paramedics is that they administer treatment on the way to a medical facility. Not sure what their SOP is, but I doubt they'd do field treatment and be on their way, especially if it's a suicide attempt. i tihnk the cops get involved. It's illegal to attempt suicide. Sorry for blathering. I'm tired.

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Sounds a bit morbid, that story.
Anyway, just so your story's correct and all, after the attempted suicide he'd have a psychiatric evaluation. Also chances are he'd have severe nerve damadge and tendon damadge and a nasty scar, not a cool one, an ugly one.

aphonicmessiah
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ive got all that. thanks.

will ibuprofrofin work well enough as a blood thinner?
and will they just give you glucose and an infusion, or would more treatments be needed for the amount of blood loss?

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If you can get him some Plavex, he'll bleed out for sure. They prescribe it pretty widely for people with clot problems, or after some kinds of surgery. I was on it for a month after they put the stent in my heart, and if I nicked myself, the sort of thing that would scab over in ten minutes would annoyingly continue to bleed at least slowly for half an hour or more.

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aphonicmessiah
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thanks, man.

and the antidote?

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