Adult Swim's New Line Up

What, no love for Aqua Teen Hunger Force or older Sealab?

Neon Genesis Evangelion and Fooly Cooly are pretty cool though.

ATHF>>>>>>>>>>>>> any anime they show IMHO

[QUOTE=capitalistnihilist]ATHF>>>>>>>>>>>>> any anime they show IMHO[/QUOTE]
That made absolutely NO sense to me.

[QUOTE=Undertow]What, no love for Aqua Teen Hunger Force or older Sealab?

Neon Genesis Evangelion and Fooly Cooly are pretty cool though.[/QUOTE]

Older Sealab was good but, like Aqua Teen, the novelty ran out fast. The first time you see an episode of ATHF its the greatest thing you have ever seen and its fucking hilarious. But after 50 episodes of Shake shakin' up trouble and Meatwad being an idiot and some weird villian who doesn't do anything..the novelty wears off.
Annndd..well.. THE ROBOT NOVELTY NEVER WEARS OFF.

[QUOTE=sixteentimes]I've never been a fan of the Adult Swim/ Cartoon Network anime line ups. They play the most family friendly/generally shitty shows they can find. Inu Yasha, Full Metal Alchemist, Big O, Lupin, s-CRY-d? Lame. The rare decent show really is like a 70 degree day in a 200 degree Summer. I definitely appluad them for playing shows like Cowboy Bebop, Paranoia Agent, FLCL, etc. I mean, its adult programming. Ages 14 and up. I think most AS viewers could handle something, anything more adult than Inu Yasha. I also wouldn't mind more robots.[/QUOTE]

How far into Fullmetal Alchemist have you actually watched? It's a pretty dark and disturbing series when you get into the core of it. Hell, within the first 15 episodes you have a 4 year old getting transmuted with her dog into a beast, and then within 2 minutes being splattered all over the wall, blood and sublty drawn entrails and all. Lupin? Adult humor, plain and simple. I'm with you on the others, like Big O, Inuyasha, etc. They seem too kid-friendly at times.

But there isn't a lot of anime that doesn't exactly fit into a more "adult" definition anyways (depending on what you're looking for here, philosophical/sociological context versus pure blood and gore) without crossing [as]'s boundary of being TV-14 rating friendly. They're a TV network don't forget, so they have to have limits and have to pick their shows carefully so they don't either offend anyone or find out halfway through broadcasting whatever series that nobody is watching it after they sunk of a ton of money into it.

Plus don't forget, the screaming subbed-purist Otaku's on their messageboard will cry bloody murder if you take away Inuyasha from them. And we don't want to piss them off now do we?

[QUOTE=sixteentimes]THE ROBOT NOVELTY NEVER WEARS OFF.[/QUOTE]
they never do...

[QUOTE=walkingcontradiction]That made absolutely NO sense to me.[/QUOTE]

ATHF > any anime they (fucking cartoon network/adult swim/whatever) show.

Clear up the confusion?

EDIT: IMHO = In my humble opinion or quite possibly incompetent migrant hippy onion

Lupid the third is a recent love affair

and as for ATHF fuck yes.

[QUOTE=Six On The Dot]ATHF+FLCL+Harvey Birdman = Life.[/QUOTE]
a very pathetic empty one

I was thinking about Futurama earlier today and decided I liked it because for every 7 really dumb episodes there's that one really touching one. Like the 7 leaf clover one, or Fry's dog, or Leela's parents.
Also, I've been trying to pay attention to Full Metal Alchemist and it is rather grown up, but I think they're not playing the episodes in order or they're skipping episodes and the concept of Alchemy is really hard for me to grasp.

[QUOTE=sixteentimes]I was thinking about Futurama earlier today and decided I liked it because for every 7 really dumb episodes there's that one really touching one. Like the 7 leaf clover one, or Fry's dog, or Leela's parents.
Also, I've been trying to pay attention to Full Metal Alchemist and it is rather grown up, but I think they're not playing the episodes in order or they're skipping episodes and the concept of Alchemy is really hard for me to grasp.[/QUOTE]

They're playing them in order, but only up to Episode 25 or so. They have the rights to the entire series, but they're saving the rest for some reason. Same with Samurai Champloo. Don't ask me why, and I'm too lazy to search their msg boards for the reason why.

Alchemy = the science of breaking down something to its most basic components, and using those same components making something of equal value. Example: the first episode where Al remakes the broken radio.

Check this: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist[/url] and the Wiki entry for alchemy itself. It answers a lot.

it pisses me off how fox takes off great shows like Futurama and put modern day SHITFUCK wastes of celluloid like paris hilton on a farm. and i love futurama, but yet im stuck watching repeats of all the episodes. but they still make me laugh none the less

[QUOTE=spacemonkey1888]it pisses me off how fox takes off great shows like Futurama and put modern day SHITFUCK wastes of celluloid like paris hilton on a farm. and i love futurama, but yet im stuck watching repeats of all the episodes. but they still make me laugh none the less[/QUOTE]

Bitch to their marketing department.

At least they brought back Family Guy, although not without letting [as] having syndication/repeat rights (I still wonder who's doing that was, MacFarlane's or Turner's....). On the other hand you would think the Futurama DVD sales and ratings on [as] would have had some impact on bringing it back too. Oh well.

I always thought that Simpsons was funnier than Futurama...maybe that's why they're not bringing it back...they probably think, "well, we got the best out of the two"

My main problem with Adult Swim is their half-assed schedueles...every week it's something different. Trying to keep track of a series is hard because either they change the time or the day that it's on. And if it's a big series episodes are a week apart, so it's kind of hard to follow.

[URL=http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1677902,00.html]Ahem...[/URL]

I had heard about a possible revival, but Comedy Central snatched up the rights to Futurama's repeats? What's that about.

Stray - The Simpsons had been around for 10 years already before Futurama even came on the scene. By the time it was canned, Fox had realized it made more money off it's half-assed reality shows than with sitcoms. And it's poor ratings, due only to the fact that it was scheduled on Sundays at the end of it's run which meant pre-emption by football games also killed it. Futurama has a lot more potential in the long run than The Simpsons does, (and Matt Groening has said this himself mind you) it's just that Fox doesn't want to pony up the budget for it because they're more concerned about making money than critic acclaim. See also : Arrested Development.

Also, what's the difference between [as]'s scheduling and that of a major network huh? The only difference is the timeframe. Networks switch their shows around all the time, it's the same damn thing, just now it starts at 11pm EST instead of 8pm.

Riddle - There's a rumor like that at least once a year. Although I keep seeing this recent one as more consistent than previous ones, so it's entirely possible for a revival.

Edit for Glammy - Anyone can buy the syndication rights if they want to come up with the $750,000 per episode cost to air it. Turner/[as] was going to buy rights to The Simpsons at first, but the rights to that are $1m per episode and there were less eps of Futurama so it was a bit more cost effective (and in the long run better for us, since it means a possible revival).

I always wondered why AS never bought the Simpsons. The money thing makes sense of course, still, it kinda makes me sad to see Adult Swim lose the rights to Futurama.

I don't see why [as] would lose the rights though. At least, I don't see why both wouldn't be allowed to show it in syndication. *shrug*

I'm just saying that I think that the Simpsons is funnier/better than Futurama. That of course has nothing to do with showtimes, statistics, longevity or anything else, that's just my opinion. Also, Adult Swim changes their scheduele almost every freaking week, there no other station/program that I know of that does that. which is why I get pissed off at them because I'll attempt to tune into something only to see that it's been replaced by something else. Unless you watch Adult Swim daily, it becomes very easy to lose track of shows.

[QUOTE=Stray Bullet]I'm just saying that I think that the Simpsons is funnier/better than Futurama. That of course has nothing to do with showtimes, statistics, longevity or anything else, that's just my opinion. Also, Adult Swim changes their scheduele almost every freaking week, there no other station/program that I know of that does that. which is why I get pissed off at them because I'll attempt to tune into something only to see that it's been replaced by something else. Unless you watch Adult Swim daily, it becomes very easy to lose track of shows.[/QUOTE]
About the scheduling : you're forgetting 2 important factors here :
1) They only have 3 hours a night to work with, and only 6 nights a week. Large networks have 24 hours in 7 days. They also have a very large and diverse catalogue of shows that constantly expands, and in the limited time they have every night, the changing schedule is only fitting to give every show ample time to develop a fanbase.

2) The general [as] viewer population are some of the most fickle viewers in TV history (this is mostly my opinion). Pay attention to the ratings bumps, they fluctuate and change so much, the schedule changes makes sense if you look at it from a ratings perspective. They keep switching it around to accomodate for low ratings, lost viewership, etc. Don't forget, they are technically a separate entity from Cartoon Network (in terms of how Nielson views them and how they conduct their own business) so they are allowed a lot more liberties with experimenting with their schedules until they find one that works. Also, see reason #1 about their expanding catalogue of shows.

You may bitch and moan, but you're still watching I bet. And that's what counts after all.

As for the Futurama vs. Simpsons arguement : to each their own. The Simpsons have lost their edge the past few years. They do seem to be gaining a little bit of ground back, but I'm not holding my breath here. I always thought Futurama had a LOT more potential, especially after reading a few interviews with Groening about where he wanted to take the show and how it allowed him the creativity that the Simpsons could never fully take advantage of.

[QUOTE=FuzzBusta]I don't see why [as] would lose the rights though. At least, I don't see why both wouldn't be allowed to show it in syndication. *shrug*[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i don't really get it, but it sounds like the same thing that happened to Comedy Central when E! bought the rights to SNL and they had to go and get Mad TV to fill up all their empty time slots. Or maybe they just didn't want to pay the higher fee, which may be where Adult Swim is at. I dunno.

Do we really [I]need[/I] another tv station airing Simpsons reruns? Isn't there enough already?

I expect the Futurama revival to become solid fact soon, probably when sales of the direct to DVD movie go through the roof.

[QUOTE=glamhoth]Yeah, i don't really get it, but it sounds like the same thing that happened to Comedy Central when E! bought the rights to SNL and they had to go and get Mad TV to fill up all their empty time slots. Or maybe they just didn't want to pay the higher fee, which may be where Adult Swim is at. I dunno.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if [as] decides to pay any higher fees for a renewed contract though. It does consistently bring in, at least from what I remember, 500k+ viewers during it's timeslot (often times more than Family Guy reruns), and they have dumped plenty of manhours and creativity in promoting it in many different outlets. It just wouldn't be right being shown on Comedy Central. CC has their own brand of animation and Futurama just wouldn't feel right in that mix.

[QUOTE=FuzzBusta]About the scheduling : you're forgetting 2 important factors here :
1) They only have 3 hours a night to work with, and only 6 nights a week. Large networks have 24 hours in 7 days. They also have a very large and diverse catalogue of shows that constantly expands, and in the limited time they have every night, the changing schedule is only fitting to give every show ample time to develop a fanbase.

2) The general [as] viewer population are some of the most fickle viewers in TV history (this is mostly my opinion). Pay attention to the ratings bumps, they fluctuate and change so much, the schedule changes makes sense if you look at it from a ratings perspective. They keep switching it around to accomodate for low ratings, lost viewership, etc. Don't forget, they are technically a separate entity from Cartoon Network (in terms of how Nielson views them and how they conduct their own business) so they are allowed a lot more liberties with experimenting with their schedules until they find one that works. Also, see reason #1 about their expanding catalogue of shows.

You may bitch and moan, but you're still watching I bet. And that's what counts after all.

As for the Futurama vs. Simpsons arguement : to each their own. The Simpsons have lost their edge the past few years. They do seem to be gaining a little bit of ground back, but I'm not holding my breath here. I always thought Futurama had a LOT more potential, especially after reading a few interviews with Groening about where he wanted to take the show and how it allowed him the creativity that the Simpsons could never fully take advantage of.[/QUOTE]

I did forget about how little time and man power they have, but they still screw things up a bit. I've seen them play episodes of series out of order. I've also seen them move around shows without announcing the change and they have replaced some shows one time thus making a 2 week gap unnanounced. You are right, I still watch/love Adult Swim and I always will. It's just that I think it could be ran a little smoother.

The problem with Futurama (as I see it) is that the main character (Fry) is lacking. Bender and Zoidberg are the best characters on there. They (especially Bender) are a lot funnier and more entertaining then Fry, which kind of ruins the plot and the show (for me anyway). What I'm trying to say is, Fry is no Homer Simpson.

[QUOTE=Stray Bullet]I did forget about how little time and man power they have, but they still screw things up a bit. I've seen them play episodes of series out of order. I've also seen them move around shows without announcing the change and they have replaced some shows one time thus making a 2 week gap unnanounced. You are right, I still watch/love Adult Swim and I always will. It's just that I think it could be ran a little smoother.

The problem with Futurama (as I see it) is that the main character (Fry) is lacking. Bender and Zoidberg are the best characters on there. They (especially Bender) are a lot funnier and more entertaining then Fry, which kind of ruins the plot and the show (for me anyway). What I'm trying to say is, Fry is no Homer Simpson.[/QUOTE]
They play episodes out of order if they've run the series already and it's just a rerun. At least they do now. I do know they used to screw up a bit and during times when they are in transition, every fledgling network does it. They have ironed out a lot of kinks the past 2 years though. While I don't have cable here yet though, this new schedule they have of showing new episodes during the week seems a lot smarter to me.

Fry isn't supposed to be Homer. Bender is Homer's equivalent. Groening's reason : they both are selfish and lack compassion and guilt. Fry is supposed to be more like Bart if anything. Besides, you're also comparing 2 shows that the creators never wanted to be compared (of course it's inevitable fans of the shows would compare them as it's the same creator, much like the big hoodidly over Family Guy and American Dad right now).

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I think Bender is the Homer equivalent. The Simpsons was all about Bart until Homer evolved from the dumb dad into the brain-dead buffoon he is today. Bart is litle more than a character that sets up jokes for Homer and Millhouse now.

If Bender is supposed to be Homer, then why isn't Bender the main character? My point is that Fry is a weak main character which weakens the plot and the show as a whole. If Bender was the main character under which the whole show revolved, I would see how it would be much better.

[QUOTE=Stray Bullet]If Bender is supposed to be Homer, then why isn't Bender the main character? My point is that Fry is a weak main character which weakens the plot and the show as a whole. If Bender was the main character under which the whole show revolved, I would see how it would be much better.[/QUOTE]

Because Fry isn't the main character. Neither is Bart, or Homer. The entire Simpson family is the protagonist, as the entire Planet Express Corp is for Futurama.

Also, you're overanalyzing the show. Just watch and laugh damnit. Stupify yourself before you watch it if necessary (how you go about doing this is none of my concern, nor do I take responsibility if you actually go through with it, but have fun either way!).

[QUOTE=FuzzBusta]Because Fry isn't the main character. Neither is Bart, or Homer. The entire Simpson family is the protagonist, as the entire Planet Express Corp is for Futurama.

Also, you're overanalyzing the show. Just watch and laugh damnit. Stupify yourself before you watch it if necessary (how you go about doing this is none of my concern, nor do I take responsibility if you actually go through with it, but have fun either way!).[/QUOTE]

I do overanalize and have needed a stupifing for a long god-damn time