WARNING: use of this anti-depressant may lead to suicidal tendencies

fucking smh, i dont wanna register

theres a 'continue to article' clickit, dude
you don't have to

oh!

why the hell are they prescribing a drug to children that hadnt been approved to be prescribed to children in the first place?

because i hold stock in this company and told them too

in order to sell the other drug that you need to 'cure' the problems caused by the first

which i also hold stock in

youre shouting drinks then

yes, several emo teenyboppers DIED for the olive in this martini

mmmm
it tastes good
kudos!

dudes, i dont think this is anything to be joking around about.

**room goes quiet, except for the occasional sound of someone slurping a martini**

im serious. its bad enough that every second 'difficult' child these days is diagnosed as ADD and put on some kind of mood altering drug that turns them into a zombie,
but prescribing a drug that hasnt been fully tested to kids who are already depressive is just asking for trouble.

[QUOTE=Kit!]why the hell are they prescribing a drug to children that hadnt been approved to be prescribed to children in the first place?[/QUOTE]

In the case of AD/HD, a lot of doctors have been propagandized byt he drug warriors to believe that 60% of all Ritalin/Adderal prescriptions are redirected to college campuses and street use. So they write for a more expensive alternative, Strattera. This is a very new drug, and while it seems to work on some kids with AD/HD, it is less successful with adult AD/HD to my knowledge. It's a misdirected focus on avoiding potential abuse.

If 60% of the scripts were being redirected to the black market, and of course the drug warriors have no way of stating that with any certainty, then it wouldn't be a buck per milligram on the street.

Actually, no one can prove any number when it comes to illegal activities, because people engaged in illegal activities lie about it. So do some people who aren't but who think it's fun to push someone's buttons.

As far as whether SSRI's actually create suicidal kiddos, I don't know if that can be proven either. An interesting read is a book from the 50's called "How To Lie With Statistics." You'll never read a newspaper or listen to a news broadcast the same again.

[QUOTE=Kit!]im serious. its bad enough that every second 'difficult' child these days is diagnosed as ADD and put on some kind of mood altering drug that turns them into a zombie,
but prescribing a drug that hasnt been fully tested to kids who are already depressive is just asking for trouble.[/QUOTE]

you know why

cos this generation of kids never had
good cartons to grow up on.
we did, we are heroes.

okay
I'll stop. for you. and, and, the children

I'm going for a bike ride guys

I get a kick out of the pharmaceudical industry. They have all these wonder drugs, that really only cure things that people can deal with anyway. I mean, seriously, some of those fucking allergy medines are like "Will alleviate allergy symtoms... Side effects may include nausia, headaches, bleeding ears, sexual sideeffects, drippy anus...."

Honestly, it seems like the "cures" they whip up are worse than the original fucking problem.

Self improvement is masturbation. Half the kids that are "depressed" just want attention. I took a drug which listed Suicide as a side effect and I didn't kill myself. How can you prove that a drug is making someone kill themself?

different drugs work different ways in different people. this is foggy business, friends, and the drug industry is the fucking devil. prozac is the only anti-depressant prescribed to British youth. I had a shit time on prozac. thank the USA for welbutrin. and here i am, a year later, not dead. all it means is we need to stay calm and continue forward. one day, we'll be able to diagnose and treat depression appropriately. let's not freak out. let's work with psychiatrists, the department of Health, the drug industry... i don't know, i'm out of my mind.

[QUOTE=RunAmok]I get a kick out of the pharmaceudical industry. They have all these wonder drugs, that really only cure things that people can deal with anyway. I mean, seriously, some of those fucking allergy medines are like "Will alleviate allergy symtoms... Side effects may include nausia, headaches, bleeding ears, sexual sideeffects, drippy anus...."

Honestly, it seems like the "cures" they whip up are worse than the original fucking problem.[/QUOTE]

Benadryl is still the most powerful antihistimine out there, but it makes you sleepy. So they come out with an endless chain of non-drowsy alternatives, but they don't work. At least not for me. I was bitching to my doc a couple years ago because I thought I'd found the one that worked in Seldane D. I knew about not taking erythromycin while on it, but they pulled it from the market.

Conveniently, the company that makes Allegra, it's replacement, was the company that made Seldane, and their patent had run out, so generics were cutting into their profits.

Allegra is the same drug, refined a step. Your liver processed Seldane into Allegra, and when they do that before you take it, the complication with erythromycin is no longer a concern.

Which is fine, but no reason to absolutely pull Seldane, for which there was a generic.

Anyway, my doctor wrote me for Allegra D in the morning and plain Allegra at night. I noticed the Allegra D worked, the Allegra didn't. I asked him what's the D?

Pseudoephedrine, a nasal decongestant. I've tried Clariton and whatnot, but really, the only thing that works in the daytime is to fight the symptoms with pseudoephedrine and take diphenhydramine at night if I have to.

Of course, one of these days, the Sudafed people will come up with a reason why pseudoephedrine should be pulled from the market, probably to be replaced by an inferior and more expensive substitute. For that matter, pseudoephedrine is what replaced PPA in all those cold medicines when one study showed a moderate increase in stroke risk for women of a certain age. One study was enough to pull PPA after three decades of safe use.

And pseudoephedrine can jack your blood pressure, so I'm sure you're just as likely to have a stroke on it as on phenylpropanolamine.

And of course it's all fueled by a public that expects any drug to be totally safe. No such thing. Taking or not taking any drug could be the last thing you do.

[QUOTE=atheisticcharlie]different drugs work different ways in different people. this is foggy business, friends, and the drug industry is the fucking devil. prozac is the only anti-depressant prescribed to British youth. I had a shit time on prozac. thank the USA for welbutrin. and here i am, a year later, not dead. all it means is we need to stay calm and continue forward. one day, we'll be able to diagnose and treat depression appropriately. let's not freak out. let's work with psychiatrists, the department of Health, the drug industry... i don't know, i'm out of my mind.[/QUOTE]
I'm not down on SSRI's for treating depression. I have a good friend who's fought chronic depression since she was 8, another since 14. I have a step brother in a persistent vegetative state after mixing self-medications for bipolar and driving an SUV. I've known a couple of suicides, and my father, aunt and uncle have all been treated for tendency (the uncle had suicidal tendencies to boot).

What alarms me is the use of SSRI's to treat AD/HD, especially with the newer ones like Strattera. They're too new to be deployed widespread on kiddies for that reason when stimulant therapy has a sixty year track record of safe, successful treatment. It's really a side effect of the drug war, because amphetamines have the [I]potential[/I] for abuse. In the drug warrior's lexicon, potential for abuse equals certainty of abuse.

they're the bad guys so why would you even want to buy your shit from them in the first place seek out your local hero for real drugs plz (no really - cos while your dealer man may or may not have much of a conscience left at this point, he still hasn't been in this shit near as long or on such a large scale as the evil mother fuckers running them companies)

[QUOTE=disx]they're the bad guys so why would you even want to buy your shit from them in the first place seek out your local hero for real drugs plz (no really - cos while your dealer man may or may not have much of a conscience left at this point, he still hasn't been in this shit near as long or on such a large scale as the evil mother fuckers running them companies)[/QUOTE]
Well, I always go to the pharmacy for amphetamines and narcotic pain killers.

I do use a street dealer for beta blockers, anti-depressants, statins, that sort of thing. The manufacturer's Lipitor just doesn't measure up to the street version.