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franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

It's politics, a very personal view on par or even higher than religion. A few verbal skirmishes on a message board are still child's play compared to how vicious politics is in real life.

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TheDisco wrote:
franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

It's politics, a very personal view on par or even higher than religion. A few verbal skirmishes on a message board are still child's play compared to how vicious politics is in real life.

Amen to that Wink I'm done. Getting into political arguments is a guilty pleasure of mine. I must admit that I can get pretty defensive of Obama. I don't have time to write essays about it though.

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TheDisco wrote:
franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

It's politics, a very personal view on par or even higher than religion. A few verbal skirmishes on a message board are still child's play compared to how vicious politics is in real life.

Wrong. It's a discussion on how our lives, as people functioning as parts of communities or societies, should be run. It doesn't have to get super-nasty, unless the people involved are uninformed, and therefore base their opinions on pure emotion, or are unwilling to acknowledge that intelligent people can have views differing from their own. (Marxists refer to that as false consciousness, in the working class, and see it as something that has to be overcome by logical debate and leading by example. If you were wondering.)

Look at Giggan and I. We debate all the time. Heck, for a couple months there, I mainly posted in response to something political he said. I find many of his views to be ahistorical and occasionally absurd, but we keep it civil. Not to say it doesn't get intense at times, but I can respect that he's well-read and has obviously put a lot of thought into his positions.

Also, Giggan: yeah, I figured the founder-worship wasn't where you were coming from. I more meant that I was referring to your post, because I didn't feel like jury-rigging a multiquote.

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it's "Jerry-rigging." if you can't handle the political incorrectness of a phrase, don't use it.

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TheDisco wrote:
Jefferson, while owning slaves and having suckee suckee with them, endorsed plans to end slavery early in the Revolution, condemned George III for introducing it into the colonies, the first draft of the Constitution included a provision for ending slavery in VA, and attempted to stop the expansion of slavery into NW territories.

And if he didn't support slavery by having slaves himself that might have meant something. Good to know that he was also a hypocrite in addition to being a racist bastard.
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franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

Be honest - seeing such combativeness gives you a strange urge deep inside to surrender to someone, doesn't it?
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Ozymandias wrote:
franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

Be honest - seeing such combativeness gives you a strange urge deep inside to surrender to someone, doesn't it?

You've won, cyber-warrior.
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Smile

Wow, I wasn't expecting to come back to this thread with 14 new posts and none of them be the continuation of the brawl. (For the record, my questions were never answered.)

franc tireur wrote:
The level of vulgarity displayed in the current political threads and their general hysterical tone make me want to bash people on the head.

That's what politics is all about! When a peaceable agreement can't be reached, just bash 'em over the head!

Which is why I'm antipolitical.

Also, I'd say religion is worse than politics as far as sorting things out between people because you're dealing with an already logically-void realm. A religious debate properly should be people just answering 'I don't know' to all the great questions. A political debate is meant to deal in logic, but becomes religious when ideals are clung to which defy logic. That's what I felt happened here...

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nathaniel parker wrote:
it's "Jerry-rigging." if you can't handle the political incorrectness of a phrase, don't use it.

According to Wikipedia:

"Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast.

"The phrase "jury rigged" has been in use since at least 1788"

"Jerry-rigged" was also employed by British troops during World War Two to refer to the German use of scavenged parts to keep vehicles and weapons functional, based on the use of "jerry" as a pejorative term for German soldiers."

So, wrong.

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If you put fried rice on top of a pizza, then eat the whole thing and a liter of coke to yourself, naked, I'm pretty sure that's helly close to liberation.
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I think we're all overlooking something very crucial to all of this:

Cthulhu monsters

I see your Cthulhu monster...

And raise you a Reptilian Overlord.

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PocketFives wrote:
nathaniel parker wrote:
it's "Jerry-rigging." if you can't handle the political incorrectness of a phrase, don't use it.

According to Wikipedia:

"Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast.

"The phrase "jury rigged" has been in use since at least 1788"

"Jerry-rigged" was also employed by British troops during World War Two to refer to the German use of scavenged parts to keep vehicles and weapons functional, based on the use of "jerry" as a pejorative term for German soldiers."

So, wrong.


wikipedia is wrong.
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I can't stand this mutherfucker yet he has something interesting to say...

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Do not trust anything Alex Jones' says. He makes profits from little facts with a lot of fiction. If you read what he says, will happen on his websites, over a six month period, you will see he is absolutely full-of-shit. Some of his famous predictions are: Arnold Schwarzenegger would be president in '08, that the US, Mexico, and Canada would merge, last years flu vaccine would reduce the US population down to a more manageable size, that toothpaste makes people mentally challenge, and that the government can see through your roofs with spy satellites.
This guy needs a one-way to the nears nut hut. You have to ask yourself, if the government has all of this hatred for it's on people, why not remove Alex Jones and his websites? If you ask me, I think its more plausible that the government allows folks like Jones to exist so they can see how many nuts are out in cyberspace. If you don't believe me just read his sites for 6 months and right down all the prediction that do or do not come true. Jones is a shit salesmen with a mouthful of free samples.

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i find it best not to trust anything anyone says.

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It's "Jerry-Rigging"; in some provinces it's known as "N*gger-Rigging" (Ugh) **

Jury Rigging is when you taint a jury to alter the outcome of a legal case, ideally in your favor. Whole 'nother beastie.

** In my family history it was known as Uncle Browning. My Great Great Uncle Brown was known throughout town for repairing that which was broken with string and chewing gum. This would have been in the Blue Ridge Mountains in the 1800's. Yep, I hail from good solid Hillbilly Stock....

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nathaniel parker wrote:

I like this because it looks like the bald guy is farting out a bicycle.

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Son of a bitch. I was walking down the street once when someone yelled out their window, "MacGyver!"

Compelling story.

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i was walking down the street once when someone yelled out their window, "yellow shirt faggot!"

maybe it was the same guy.

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In my 6th grade gym class, there was a box in the corner for us kids to put our sweatshirts in and I was wearing a yellow tee. At the end of class when we collected our sweats, a kid threw mine at me and said, "Here. Cover up your ugly yellow shirt, ya fag." He's probably that guy.

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obama is working on legislation to have the color yellow removed from the spectrum. true story. i think he's a green lantern.

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big S wrote:
obama is working on legislation to have the color yellow removed from the spectrum. true story. i think he's a green lantern.

then why would he appear in yellow shirts?
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it's a deception. it has something to do with both david icke and uri geller. that's not actually yellow or even a t-shirt.