Julian Assange Arrested
if there's nothing wrong with it in their country, then it isnt a crime. im not saying it's right or anything, but if i moved to someplace like thailand where the consenting age is (what is it there?) twelve, right? then so long as i am no longer an american citizen, i have committed no crime.
if they cant prove that americans were involved in the actual child sex in question, then there isnt anything that can be done. say, i know someone who is eighteen in i dunno, pick a country thats not this one, and i send them money to get drunk with, which they can do legally, then no crime has been committed either. because that friend would not be a minor by their own country's laws,
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if they cant prove that americans were involved in the actual child sex in question, then there isnt anything that can be done. say, i know someone who is eighteen in i dunno, pick a country thats not this one, and i send them money to get drunk with, which they can do legally, then no crime has been committed either. because that friend would not be a minor by their own country's laws,
I think I see where you're coming from. Child rape isn't inherently wrong, it's only wrong if it's against the law, right?
"They sold you hippies grunge, hip hop, now liberty activism."
if they cant prove that americans were involved in the actual child sex in question, then there isnt anything that can be done. say, i know someone who is eighteen in i dunno, pick a country thats not this one, and i send them money to get drunk with, which they can do legally, then no crime has been committed either. because that friend would not be a minor by their own country's laws,
I think I see where you're coming from. Child rape isn't inherently wrong, it's only wrong if it's against the law, right?
you know thats not what i said.
in some countries they hang people from cranes in the town square. they tie (in some cases) little girls to benches and flog them from their toes to their necks. in these places, this is perfectly normal, whether we in the 'free world' are disgusted by it, or not.
people who go to those countries from the afore mentioned 'free world' are subject to such punishments, as well.
what im saying is what those people do in those countries, as long as it isnt on another embassy's soil, and no person from another country is directly involved in (in this case) pedophilia, by our standards, its not illegal
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-James Baldwin
what im saying is what those people do in those countries, as long as it isnt on another embassy's soil, and no person from another country is directly involved in (in this case) pedophilia, by our standards, its not illegal
Okay...not that I agree but that's totally beside the point as well.
I didn't post about a random Afghani Sex Party with small boys, I posted about a taxpayer funded sex party.
I have a real issues with your ethics. I don't know what "our standards" are, but they are likely not my standards. I don't care if child rape in Afghanistan is not a crime in the United States (duh) its fucked up either way.
I would doubt your average afghani would find such a practice tolerable and consider it kinda degrading to assume, "well, those people are okay with it".
"They sold you hippies grunge, hip hop, now liberty activism."
if they cant prove that americans were involved in the actual child sex in question, then there isnt anything that can be done. say, i know someone who is eighteen in i dunno, pick a country thats not this one, and i send them money to get drunk with, which they can do legally, then no crime has been committed either. because that friend would not be a minor by their own country's laws,
I think I see where you're coming from. Child rape isn't inherently wrong, it's only wrong if it's against the law, right?
see, I read the exact same thing and got the exact opposite from it. that child rape is wrong, but if there's no law against it then there's no crime.
if they cant prove that americans were involved in the actual child sex in question, then there isnt anything that can be done. say, i know someone who is eighteen in i dunno, pick a country thats not this one, and i send them money to get drunk with, which they can do legally, then no crime has been committed either. because that friend would not be a minor by their own country's laws,
I think I see where you're coming from. Child rape isn't inherently wrong, it's only wrong if it's against the law, right?
see, I read the exact same thing and got the exact opposite from it. that child rape is wrong, but if there's no law against it then there's no crime.
exactly. we look at things through the filter of what's legal here, whats moral to us. and thats fine, its misguided, but its fine. again, im not saying i would do any of this because i was brought up in a society where this kind of thing is more than wrong, but that doesnt make that true for anyone else, especially someone brought up in a society where such things were condoned.
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“...There are so many ways of being despicable it quite makes one's head spin. But the way to be really despicable is to be contemptuous of other people's pain. You ought to have some apprehension that the man you see before you was once even younger than you are now and arrived at his present wretchedness by imperceptible degrees.”
-James Baldwin
exactly. we look at things through the filter of what's legal here, whats moral to us.
I don't think it sits well with me that you equate those two things, because they are quite different. It's not immoral to light up a joint, but it is certainly illegal. It is not moral to attack someone for ingesting cannabis, but it is legal if you are a state sanctioned elite.
I don't see why any of that holds water. It may not be a legal crime to rape children in the desert where no country lays a claim, but its no more permissible an act.
"They sold you hippies grunge, hip hop, now liberty activism."
It's not immoral to light up a joint,
According to whom?
There's plenty of people out there that think it's immoral to even drink a beer.
Him, duh!
Don't Impose Y'alls Morals On Me!
Assange has been bailed, if anyone still cares about the original point of this thread. Extradition hearing to be held early next year.
Lovely. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/assange-freed-from-prison/
The fourth charge involves a second complainant, identified as “Miss W,” who spent the night with Assange on August 17 and accused him of having sex with her while she slept, without her consent and without wearing a condom.
During his bail hearing Tuesday, Assange’s defense attorney Geoffrey Robertson told the court that he doubted that the allegations against his client would be considered rape under English law.
Do you think he'll just pull a "Polanksi?"
Since no one laughed the first time.
I dunno. I guess she's kinda cute.