I miss you, man

I miss having a competent, fiscally responsible President in the White House, but I don't really miss Bill himself.

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Clinton kicked ass. Com'on, he was Bill. Good ol' Bill.

You mean the cumstain that out-lawed gay marriage and gave us an unprovoked war against Kosovo? Yeah, gotta love that.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias]You mean the cumstain that out-lawed gay marriage and gave us an unprovoked war against Kosovo? Yeah, gotta love that.[/QUOTE]

Yeah he's the one.
We'll never have a better President though. If your waiting for another Lincoln or Roosevelt, don't hold your breath.

Good, Lincoln fucking sucked. He ruined the best chance we ever had of getting rid of the South. :mad:

[QUOTE=Ozymandias]Good, Lincoln fucking sucked. He ruined the best chance we ever had of getting rid of the South. :mad:[/QUOTE]

Well, if nuclear weapons had been around back then he would've taken care of it.

wait a minute...

WHY THE FUCK ISN'T CLINTON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN!!!
Fucking shit!!! It's an election year Bill, get off you ass and beat Bush!

Oh yeah, I miss having someone that will take money and give it to slack asses that don't work and sit in housing project pregnant with their 12th kid so they can get a bigger check so they get better rims for their car that cost more the fucking place i live in. Thanks Bill!

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]Oh yeah, I miss having someone that will take money and give it to slack asses that don't work and sit in housing project pregnant with their 12th kid so they can get a bigger check so they get better rims for their car that cost more the fucking place i live in. Thanks Bill![/QUOTE]

Yeah cause things are soooo much better with Bush.

I'm 18 so Bill and Bush Jr. are the only presidencies I can recall. Bush Sr. and Reagan were too long ago.

I would trade George W in a second to have Clinton back.

Actually he is. Sure we have a national deficit, but look at the shit we've been thru since Bush has been in office. Things that were out of his hands. And had your boy Slick Willie not drop all the Intel Angencys and Nation Defense budgets the 9/11 may have been avoided. he also gave way to much to the "non-workers" and took to much from people like myself who bust their asses to try and get by. But all Dems do that. Helps them get the minority vote. Nothing against minorities, unless they are minorities that dont work. To think of the shit we would have been in if Gore would have been elected.... HOLY SHIT.... we would all be wearing turbins, riding camels and speaking Arabic. So yeah I vote conservative, liberals give shit away and like to fuck ugly, fat whores in the Oval office.

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]Actually he is. Sure we have a national deficit, but look at the shit we've been thru since Bush has been in office. Things that were out of his hands. And had your boy Slick Willie not drop all the Intel Angencys and Nation Defense budgets the 9/11 may have been avoided. he also gave way to much to the "non-workers" and took to much from people like myself who bust their asses to try and get by. But all Dems. do that. Helps them get the minority vote. Nothing against minorities, unless they are minorities that dont work. To think of the shit we would have been in if Gore would have been elected.... HOLY SHIT.... we would all be wearing turbins, riding camels and speaking Arabic. So yeah I vote conservative, liberals give shit away and like to fuck ugly, fat whores in the Oval office.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, a war with Iraq, disquised as part of war on terror, is great isnt it? What about North Korea? No, they dont have oil.

What about Saudi Arabia? Most of the 911 hijackers were from there. No, they already give us oil.

Why not have more support for renewable energy resources so we won't be so dependent on these middle eastern countries? No, that would piss of Bush's Enron buddies.

[QUOTE=angusbeef123]Oh yeah, a war with Iraq, disquised as part of war on terror, is great isnt it? What about North Korea? No, they dont have oil.

What about Saudi Arabia? Most of the 911 hijackers were from there. No, they already give us oil.

Why not have more support for renewable energy resources so we won't be so dependent on these middle eastern countries? No, that would piss of Bush's Enron buddies.[/QUOTE]

We get the majority of our oil from Mexico and next in line is Canada, we could take both of them in a weekend.... maybe we should do that instead. It being a shorter trip and all.
Saudi Arabia doesn't have a dictator that kills thousands of his own people a year. Oh but neither does Iraq... Now.
And I'm all for going to North Korea, hell maybe we will. One war at a time guy, don't get to hungry......
Where the terrorist are from and what nations support them is two completely different things.
I don't think we need to worry to much about Enron anymore either.
And there was money put aside in the budget for renewable resource research, but that shit not going to happen over night.
Fact of the matter is neither party is perfect. They both have faults, that is why we have a multi-party government. I simply agree with the Republican platforms more than the Democrats. And don't get me wrong I'm all for welare, for the right people... Disabled and elderly need the help, no doubt. But dumbasses that don't know how to use birth-control methods are not even on my list of people to help when they are able bodied people who can get a job just like everyone else.

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]We get the majority of our oil from Mexico and next in line is Canada [/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, we get the majority of our oil from the Southwestern United States and Alaska with Canada and Central/South America coming in just behind. OPEC falls somewhere after that.

You're also forgetting Clinton's multiple air-attacks on Iraq.

Saddam wouldn't agree to weapons inspections.

Before the Iraq War, Saddam agreed to them, but George W invaded anyway

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]
I don't think we need to worry to much about Enron anymore either. [/QUOTE]
Right. They got away with it; nothing left to worry about.

I miss Bill! I always feel like the only one. He was so cool and you know, not a dipshit.

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]Oh yeah, I miss having someone that will take money and give it to slack asses that don't work and sit in housing project pregnant with their 12th kid so they can get a bigger check so they get better rims for their car that cost more the fucking place i live in. Thanks Bill![/QUOTE]
That's so accurate regarding how government assistance works. You obviously know a wide range of poor people.
Perhaps that money would be better spent trying to build a [b]missile-defence system in OUTER SPACE[/b], something anyone with half a brain in their head will tell you is scientifically impossible. Or maybe he should've spent 200 billion to murder a bunch of arabs that were never a threat to us. A trip to Mars, perhaps? All of this while we're in a recession.
Bush spends money like a drunken sailor on the kinds of things that you'd need to have your brains fried from coke to think are a good idea. Wasting money is still wasting money, regardless of whether you think it's a good idea.
All of Clinton's government spending was in the interest of getting us out of the crippling recession he inheritied, and later keeping prosperity going once we had our first surplus since the 50s.
Clinton was more fiscally responsible and...wait for it...conservative than any Republican since Eisenhower. You should think beyond the line you've been fed about how Democrats steal your tax money.

The dumbest idea Bush came up with was the tax rebate. He said if the government gave back some money, people would spend it and it would stimulate the economy. The average household got checks for $300.

John Q. Taxpayer after he got his rebate:
"Wow, a $300 check! This is great! Now I can buy something I've always wanted! But first I have to pay the electric bill, gas bill, car payments, house payments, groceries, daycare, and medical bills. I'm sure that with a whopping $300 dollars there will be some left, after all that."

[QUOTE=Tuffy the Dump Truck]If I remember correctly, we get the majority of our oil from the Southwestern United States and Alaska with Canada and Central/South America coming in just behind. OPEC falls somewhere after that.

You're also forgetting Clinton's multiple air-attacks on Iraq.[/QUOTE]

My bad, meant that as imported oil, but didnt state that.

For the attack on the American Embassy, right?

[QUOTE=angusbeef123]Saddam wouldn't agree to weapons inspections.

Before the Iraq War, Saddam agreed to them, but George W invaded anyway[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he would agree, then the inspectors would get there and he would take them everywhere but in areas that needed to be inspected. And he did that for over 12 years.... He had his chance to produce evidence that he destryoed the WMDs. He had his chances,but didn't want to cooperate.

[QUOTE=Tuffy the Dump Truck]Right. They got away with it; nothing left to worry about.[/QUOTE]
I heard they went bankrupt. May be wrong tho, I admit I havn't really kept up with the Enron situation as of late.

yeah nobody has.
that's the point.

Two quick quotes that sum up my thoughts on the whole thing, don't remember where i picked these up at, and wish i could credit the right people,but oh well.

"If your a Republican when your twenty, you have no heart; If your a Democrat when your forty you have no brain."

"Choosing between a Republican and Democrat president, is alot like going into an adult bookstore and trying to decide which dildo is going to hurt the least."

later,
Karb!

[QUOTE=Ozymandias]That's so accurate regarding how government assistance works. You obviously know a wide range of poor people.
Perhaps that money would be better spent trying to build a [b]missile-defence system in OUTER SPACE[/b], something anyone with half a brain in their head will tell you is scientifically impossible. Or maybe he should've spent 200 billion to murder a bunch of arabs that were never a threat to us. A trip to Mars, perhaps? All of this while we're in a recession.
Bush spends money like a drunken sailor on the kinds of things that you'd need to have your brains fried from coke to think are a good idea. Wasting money is still wasting money, regardless of whether you think it's a good idea.
All of Clinton's government spending was in the interest of getting us out of the crippling recession he inheritied, and later keeping prosperity going once we had our first surplus since the 50s.
Clinton was more fiscally responsible and...wait for it...conservative than any Republican since Eisenhower. You should think beyond the line you've been fed about how Democrats steal your tax money.[/QUOTE]

Actually alot of the people I work "with" get money for Sec 8 housing, Food Stamps, etc. I have no idea what people you know or talk to but, that's the basic guidelines that I have gathered from conversations with the people I do know.
Words like "never" and "impossible" don't work. Because nothing is constant and anything is truely possible in science, possible not at our level of technology, anything can happen.
The Space Program opens alot of jobs and sorry if this comes out wrong, but, I would rather give my tax money to National Defense and the Space Program over welfare for unemployed people who simple arent driven enough to get a damn job.
Oh no, no Arab has every kil..... wait yeah they have.
SO with Clinton we went from an economy that was rising from Reagan and Bush to a "great" economy? I could have a surplus in the Bank if I didn't pay my bills for 4 years too. He cut spending on National Defense and Intellegence which very well could be the reason of the WTC attack, which was the reason for the War on Terror, which is what the war in Iraq was linked to..... Karma is a mother fucker bro.
Everyone steals money. I just don't like the way Dems steal then slap you in the face with it.

plus, bill's got terrible taste in chicks.

[QUOTE=angusbeef123]The dumbest idea Bush came up with was the tax rebate. He said if the government gave back some money, people would spend it and it would stimulate the economy. The average household got checks for $300.

John Q. Taxpayer after he got his rebate:
"Wow, a $300 check! This is great! Now I can buy something I've always wanted! But first I have to pay the electric bill, gas bill, car payments, house payments, groceries, daycare, and medical bills. I'm sure that with a whopping $300 dollars there will be some left, after all that."[/QUOTE]

Since your friend "John Q." is a taxpayer I'm assuming he has a job. Which would mean he has steady income, which means he pays those bills every month anyway. Which in turn would make the $300 extra, which he could turn around and spend however he wanted without it hurting his personal budget...

[QUOTE=TastesLikeChicken]plus, bill's got terrible taste in chicks.[/QUOTE]

Very true... If your going to ball it down in the Oval Office, make that shit count, do it right. Monica's fat ugly ass. And a nasty bitch too, keepin that dress.

Also, with my $300 I bought a PS2, now that I think about it, don't know how much I helped our economy with it, or Japan and Sony's.

later,
Karb!

First off Clinton sucked. Bush sucks more. Secondly, Why the hell would we be wearing turbins if Gore was president? Was Al-Qaeda planning an invansion that I didn't hear about? Or is this some sort of weird Republican crazy ass propaganda?

And I guess Clinton cut military and intelligence spending so bad that Bush couldn't win two wars in two years. Oh no, that was Bush's ablity to create efficent weapons programs in his first two years of office. Wrong. Clinton made the military more efficient. He was a peace time president did you expect him to raise military and intelliegence spending. I don't remeber hearing Republicans calling for more spending, all I heard was "Balanced Budget, Balanced Budget" Now where are they?

I guess you didn't hear about the meeting that Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger had with Condoleeza Rice where Condi was warned about Al-Qaeda and did nothing. And I guess you didn't hear about the Hart-Rudman (Hart being Gary Hart former Dem. Pres Candidate) report that called for a "A National Homeland Security Agency" on Feb 15, 2001 (7 months before 9-11) that would plan, coordinate and integrate US Government activities involved in Homeland Security. What did Bush, Cheney and his cronies do? Nothing. Now I can recall a Dept. of Homeland Security can you?

But I don't blame Bush. I blame the terrorist's. They did it. They are to blame. I didn't hear Clinton blame George Herbert Walker Bush for Timothy McVeigh?

And personally I would like to see my tax money go to schools, libraries, and a fucking single payer health care system not to kill terrorists, innocent people (there are innocent people dieing in Iraq and Afganistan) and help line the fat pockets of defense contractors who profit off of war. Then they use that money to shoot rubber bullets, and tear gas at me for engaging in my constitutional rights to peacefully protest. Imagine if we started spraying pepper spray in the eyes of gun owners?

And in the words of Big Boi "Big girls need love, too" Monica may not be good looking, but either is Bill.

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]Words like "never" and "impossible" don't work. Because nothing is constant and anything is truely possible in science, possible not at our level of technology, anything can happen.
The Space Program opens alot of jobs and sorry if this comes out wrong, but, I would rather give my tax money to National Defense and the Space Program over welfare for unemployed people who simple arent driven enough to get a damn job.
Oh no, no Arab has every kil..... wait yeah they have.
SO with Clinton we went from an economy that was rising from Reagan and Bush to a "great" economy? I could have a surplus in the Bank if I didn't pay my bills for 4 years too. He cut spending on National Defense and Intellegence which very well could be the reason of the WTC attack, which was the reason for the War on Terror, which is what the war in Iraq was linked to..... Karma is a mother fucker bro.
Everyone steals money. I just don't like the way Dems steal then slap you in the face with it.[/QUOTE]
You mean you don't like knowing about it, you'd rather have the Republicans spend more than the Democrats and then lie to you about "cutting taxes" and "reducing government"?
The economy under Reagan and Bush sucked shit if you weren't in an upper class. This isn't even arguable, and I can't imagine the kind of programming you were subjected to to say otherwise. Their 12 years of theft left us with nothing. After 8 years Clinton left us with an unprecedented government surplus. End of fucking story.
Reagan was a psychopath who thought the apocalypse was coming and wasted hundreds of billions on the military when we were already the top military in the world. There was nothing to do with that budget BUT cut it. Clinton trimmed the government waste flowing to the military, but kept it efficient enough so that a National Guard deserter could take over an entire country in a matter of weeks with that military less than a year after Clinton left office. Sit down.
I don't know what point you were trying to make about Bush's slaughter of Arabs, but you failed. Miserably. None of the 9/11 killers were from Iraq, nor did that government have anything to do with it. Bush has since admitted that himself. How exactly does a pack of nut-jobs killing 2700 civilians justify Bush killing thousands of another country's civilians at a $200 billion price tag in the middle of a recession? You shouldn't have gone here.
An outer-space missile-defence system is IMPOSSIBLE now and will remain so for a century. You'd be better off setting the taxpayer money spent on that on fire.

In closing, you know nothing about everything. It's a wonder you can even feed yourself.

Whoever said it earlier, Bill can't run again because he was already elected to two terms.

And maybe it's just me, but I just always found Clinton to be....creepy. You can argue back and forth for hours about wars, money, deficit, etc. And hell, I know I'm never going to really like any president ever; I'm a Republican--we only trust God and money, never governments. But Clinton always had a freaky rapist/child molester vibe going on, and I'd vote against him on that alone.

Ozy I forgive you for saying Fear and Loathing is the worst movie ever. I just think 'The Real Cancun' is worse than anything i could ever see.