I amgod OF dogma

Come on. Is this site completely convoluted with NOTHING but a bunch of Elitist, Pretentious, Pussies.

Maybe you should explain what you're complaining about. Those are just some really general statements and I could read almost anything I want into them.

[QUOTE=Recluse God]I'm A AnGGy Te3nag3R!!!!!!11[/QUOTE]

What's all this bullshit about a war and your freedom being taken away? What have you been stopped from doing recently? How are you being oppressed? You whiny, annoying little shit!

ha ha you have opinions

Guys, he's serious...he rocks out to Slipknot and EVERYTHING!!!

[QUOTE=Six On The Dot]dudedon'tgooffonslipknotokay.[/QUOTE]
Is it faux pas now? Are the 'knot cool again? I can never keep it straight as to what Uncle Sam wants me to like.

That Slipknot bag thing was as subtle a slam as I've seen. Well done.

yeah, come on man, maybe it's your parents taking away your freedom, not the government. i haven't lost any freedom.

yeah, and i didn't have to call the post office so i can get mail like i thought i had to. my mom's doing it instead. that's a [I]little[/I] freedom.

There's a moshpit somewhere missing a chubby fourteen year old who likes to elbows girls in the face.

the only freedom ive lost is the freedom to crash planes into buildings. what the fuck eh

I've lost the freedom to have those really romantic reuniting scenes at the airport terminal; now it's like romance at the baggage claim. Not that I ever did do a scene like that. The point is that I COULD, DAMMIT. That's what America and freedom are all about!!

Jane - thats funny you would mention that

This morning I was pondering.
My girlfriend is leaving for Spain for 6 months and I was thinking how I was going to say goodbye to her at the terminal. And all I could think of was not getting past the first set of metal detectors or whatever where you drop off your luggage and having her wait in the preboarding terminal all alone.

damn you osama!!

RG,

The funny thing is... we have the freedom to piss and moan about "losing" our freedom, the freedom to talk about waging war on our gov't... Do you know how many countries would have you killed for saying something like that?

You live in the best country in the world, you have a computer, internet access, probably a car and a decent education, and more than likely you've got some clever clothes that mark you as an independent thinker, a free spirit, unlike all those MTV drones. You probably sit in coffee shops where they play weird underground angst ridden punk music as a backdrop to your discussions about how the US government is turning communist of whatever.

You want to bring the Gov't to it's knees, then you better have some damn good evidence. You want to change the world, RG? Lead by example. And that just does not equate to whining on a forum, facelessly, where nobody can hold you accountable for the things you say... that's just talk. For all we know, you're a communist, or worse... an MTV drone.

tell me which of your freedoms have been taken away
tell me what youre talking about
are you talking about the patriot act?
are you talking about the fact that you cant slip scissors past airport security?
which freedoms are you willing to fight for?
the freedom to NOT be killed by a group of extremists as you sit at work in the morning?
the freedom to bring what you want on the airplane?
the freedom to not have your phone tapped?

are you a member of Al Queda?
is Osama your daddy?
are you going to bomb the world trade centers?... oh wait... uh.. empire state building?
are you going to hi-jack a plane?
ar you going to knit your mother a scarf while flying from california to new york?
because you cant.

so do tell- what are you willing to fight for?

RG,

P.S. Just so you know, I still think you've got good taste, I mean, the Clockwork Orange avatar is cool. I'm not really sure what spurned your rant, and you've been rather clandestine since your initial posts so we're left only to wonder, rebut, and poke fun. Don't think I don't like you or something, I don't get off ripping people up on the internet, I just really do like living in America. Take the good with the bad, try and make life better for those around you, and it all comes around. I'll change what I can, and so should you, but that change starts with one's self.

Have a better day,
ire

OK

[COLOR=Yellow]tell me which of your freedoms have been taken away[/COLOR]

First off. I love America. At Least I use to. Did you know that before the change you could say no to a cop if he wanted to search yor car. Now you can't. He can search your car with a dog with out consent. So ok..maybe you think that's no big deal. It would just fuck up drug people and stuff. Well true for now. But that was a freedom we had for a long time

[COLOR=Yellow]tell me what youre talking about[/COLOR]

I was clear in what I was talking about. I asked a question. Simple. Would you fight the government if they get uppity.

[COLOR=Yellow]are you talking about the patriot act?[/COLOR]

That's a big part of it

[COLOR=Yellow]are you talking about the fact that you cant slip scissors past airport security?[/COLOR]

that doesn't bother me as much. But eventually when you chisel away at something little by little it breaks appart. Our freedom is in danger of that.

[COLOR=Yellow]which freedoms are you willing to fight for?
the freedom to NOT be killed by a group of extremists as you sit at work in the morning?[/COLOR]

That will never be stopped. To think it will is falling into the same bullshit that that wing is feeding you. They need to be at war. It gives them power over us over our fear. There is no war. and where are the weapons of mass destruction we never found?

[COLOR=Yellow]the freedom to bring what you want on the airplane?[/COLOR]
...
[COLOR=Yellow]the freedom to not have your phone tapped?[/COLOR]

yes. That is a freedom.

[COLOR=Yellow]are you a member of Al Queda?
is Osama your daddy?
are you going to bomb the world trade centers?... oh wait... uh.. empire state building?
are you going to hi-jack a plane?
ar you going to knit your mother a scarf while flying from california to new york?[/COLOR]

No No No No and maybe.

[COLOR=Yellow]because you cant.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=Yellow]so do tell- what are you willing to fight for?[/COLOR]

Freedom. My personal freedom. The freedom which is in the vice grips of our own CHOSEN fucking leaders and they are clenching in further and further. You are blind and niave if you don't see that our government does not care about you. So when They act like they do they have to have an agenda. We have no Idea what that is. The Media has been paid off through sponserships. We are being lied to all the time. It has always been this way I know but now they are fucking winning. they are getting bolder. They know we can't stop them so they are doing this shit to our face now. I fucking care about that. I care that everyone is walking around completly oblivious to everything going on. It pisses me off.

And fuck you guys. I hope I am wrong. But I know I am not and it's going to get worse. Most people seem to think fuck it god will save us. Or superman will stop them. Those of you that object are part of the fucking problem. Enjoy your freedom of choice while it lasts while more and more Americans are in prison. More and more rules to put us there. America is/was a great country. I want to keep it that way. Our enemies are no longer just other countries. The devil sleeps in washington now.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]RG,

The funny thing is... we have the freedom to piss and moan about "losing" our freedom, the freedom to talk about waging war on our gov't... Do you know how many countries would have you killed for saying something like that?

[/QUOTE]

Actually they are taking that freedom away too. Try pissing and moning at the next bush rally or some place public with cameras. See what happens. maybe ask about the federal reserve.

It isn't just our Government. It is the corporate ties we have to worry about. they are really the ones pully the strings. Money is King.

Did you know they are trying to make it illegal to fast forward through priveiws and commercials?

I'll take you serious.

No one in their right mind would fight in a war against our government. Unless it happened like some fight club shit. We'd need to do some Ghandi type shit, and let's face it we are almost all complacent, ignorant and "happy" with the way things are!!!

About the commercials, read about what the IEEE wants done about piracy laws. The IEEE are the good guys here.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]RG,

You want to bring the Gov't to it's knees, then you better have some damn good evidence. You want to change the world, RG? Lead by example. And that just does not equate to whining on a forum, facelessly, where nobody can hold you accountable for the things you say... that's just talk. For all we know, you're a communist, or worse... an MTV drone.[/QUOTE]

I just asked if any one would fight with me. And I said I dont know how to fight this. I don't even know who to go after. I do know that the last guy that fucked around with my particular topics hasn't been heard from for a while. His web site has been shut down. He was actually arrested many times for voicing his opinion. That's all he did. He asked questions that no one wants asked. His name is Alex Jones. Those of you that saw the movie waking life may remember the activist in the taxi cab with a bull horn. That was him.

Well.. what we've seen here today is the birth of our very own conspiracy theorist.

Watch out... [B]They [/B] could be listening right now.

* click click * did you hear that? musta been a wiretap...

What do I say, [U][B]USA, A OK![/B][/U]

[QUOTE=bassplr19]I'll take you serious.

No one in their right mind would fight in a war against our government. Unless it happened like some fight club shit. We'd need to do some Ghandi type shit, and let's face it we are almost all complacent, ignorant and "happy" with the way things are!!!

About the commercials, read about what the IEEE wants done about piracy laws. The IEEE are the good guys here.[/QUOTE]

If the whole world knew the whole truth maybe things would change themselves. Maybe the apathy that we have been use too will be replaced with anger and justice. I want to know. I wish I knew where to start. Things I have thought all my life are manifesting themselves in the visible light. Soon everyone will see. iI am not special. I don't have some kind of kea insight that you don't have. Why are there so few that see what's going on.

Has anyone seen the reports that 911 was a farce. Yea it sounds like a conspiracy theory. Try and find video on the bombing. They exist. They have video somewhere with the places crashing directly into the buildings close up. although you can't seem to find any of theses videos now. The video I saw which was examined show a small burst of light from the bottom of the plane. This occured the instant BEFORE the plane crashed. It happened on both planes so it wasn't a isolated incident. The Idea is that a missle was fired from the plane before it hit. And that those planes were military planes. Our military. Is it so hard to believe. That some greedy fuckers in our government saw the chance to take power through our own fear so they did. I don't even think it's bush. He is a puppet for sure. Dick Chenney and Rumsfeld or whatever have along history of political plans that border on world domination. Alex Jones thinks we are being invaded by england. That's a little extreme even for me. It is possible but I can't figure out how or why. Maybe. I just want my freedom and my childrens freedom. I want the constitution left alone. I don't care how much time distorts things and how far our technologies take us we still remain the same. We are still Americans with freedoms we were promised all those years ago. All those people that died for us died in vain because of what is happening. Now if you die for your country all they really noticed is a shift in a number on a for some where. I won't die for that. What if there is a draft again. Are you going to fight for money. That's not something worth fighting for. You won't have a CHOICE though will you. It may already be to late. From the response I got from this thread I am betting on it.

[QUOTE=Six On The Dot]Jackass: The Movie is less retarded than this, AND it makes America look worse.

Score-
Jackass: none

You: Even less[/QUOTE]

Are you ok. Do you need to take a break from the stress that last remark must have made coming out of your ass.

Look, Recluse God, if that is your real name, this is what it boils down to. We live in the United States of America. This is the richest country in the world. You have never had your right to vote denied; you've never been in a war zone and your house at the same time. If someone wrongs you, you can and will receive legal recourse. You have never had the value of your currency drop down to nothing. You have never been poor. Your president has never been assassinated by your government. It is not legal or ethical to kill you for your religious, political, or moral views.

So you're pissed cause the cops can search your car without your asking? Can they shoot you without asking? Can they impound your car for no good reason? No, they can't. Moral of the story: You have a body cavity. Put your stash in there next time. Now shut the fuck up.

[QUOTE=Vendetta]What's all this bullshit about a war and your freedom being taken away? What have you been stopped from doing recently? How are you being oppressed? You whiny, annoying little shit![/QUOTE]Its illegal to suck dick in Michigan, maybe he lives here!

[QUOTE=morey]Its illegal to suck dick in Michigan, maybe he lives here![/QUOTE]
How utterly insensitive of me not to think of that.

Sorry, Recluse God.

[QUOTE=Recluse God]IAlex Jones thinks we are being invaded by england. [B]That's a little extreme even for me[/B]. [/QUOTE]

oh the teacher who taught you irony would be so proud!

A+

Are you kidding me? 911 was a farce?... and I suppose all the people who died on those planes didn't really die, no they're hanging with Elvis somewhere in limbo.

[QUOTE=jane s.]Look, Recluse God, if that is your real name, this is what it boils down to. We live in the United States of America. This is the richest country in the world. You have never had your right to vote denied; you've never been in a war zone and your house at the same time. If someone wrongs you, you can and will receive legal recourse. You have never had the value of your currency drop down to nothing. You have never been poor. Your president has never been assassinated by your government. It is not legal or ethical to kill you for your religious, political, or moral views.

So you're pissed cause the cops can search your car without your asking? Can they shoot you without asking? Can they impound your car for no good reason? No, they can't. Moral of the story: You have a body cavity. Put your stash in there next time. Now shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE]

No offense cause you seem like an ok person and I don't really want to offend you but...

That is the most naive thing anyone has ever said. The Gov. loves people like you. So easily fooled by the way everything is set up. And all that stuff that you say hasn't happened to me yet...you're right. But there is a much bigger picture here. How many rights do they have to take away before it does start happening. there aren't many left. Point is all that stuff could happen. And I am cirtain it will. What do they have to do next to make us so scared that we let them control us. I don't want to be controlled. This isn't about my right to smoke pot. i could care less about that. That is a freedom we should have however. It is our right to do what we will to ourselves. The only laws that should exist are the ones that help people ...like you know.. don't kill people. Don't rape little kids. Don't drinkl and drive. That sort of thing. What if 911 was set up? Just for a sec say what if. That means that they used that to pass laws that put tighter control on us. They say it is for our own good but we know (at least we should) that they do not really give a damn. In the end it all comes down to money. Our rights are being sold away and I am really sorry you are to blind to see that.

quick pointless fact: The seat Belt Law: it is the law to buckle up because if you die you cost the govern ment money. When I first got a sega CD I noticed that there were hook up spots on the back for shit that I don't have or never heard of. I later found out that was for shit that either had not been invented yet or they were planning to market later. That is how you have to look at this. Shit they have yet to do. What are they laying the ground work for. They are leaving gaping ports wide open in our rights.

And by the way. Cops can impound my car for no good reason. I guess in NY you have to have inspections done or your car will be taken away. That doesn't even exist where I live. And they can shoot me when ever they want to. And they would get away with it it someone needed me dead. My argument really isn't about cops though. Yeah there are dirty cops but that is a whole different entity for now. I just want people to look outside and see what's going on. Like that song. Things are happening that have never happened in this country before. Acknollege it. Do your part as a fucking American you claim to be. I am an American and I will die for the Ideals of what that name is supposed to stand for. You can live your life based on what you see on tv and what your parents and you peers have brought you to believ if you want. I won't be there to say I told you so.

[QUOTE=Recluse God] Do your part as a fucking American you claim to be. I am an American and I will die for the Ideals of what that name is supposed to stand for. You can live your life based on what you see on tv and what your parents and you peers have brought you to believ if you want. I won't be there to say I told you so.[/QUOTE]

Well then, die for your ideals. Just like the anti-seatbelt guy... oh that thread's a riot!

see also anti-seatbelt guy thread: [url]http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=19048[/url]

there's some striking similarities between these two guys. RG and the anti-seatbelt guy. Fight for your right to ... ... well, whatever it is your whining about, it's funny.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]Are you kidding me? 911 was a farce?... and I suppose all the people who died on those planes didn't really die, no they're hanging with Elvis somewhere in limbo.[/QUOTE]

No they definately did die. but why was a blast fired off of each plane before impact.

Also it is believed that the pentagon bombing was a shaped charge. The video for this is no where to be found on television or official sources. But I saw it. If a plane crashed there it would have been on fire right? Then why were there Computersw and boxes with PAPER in it siting by the big hole where the plane crashed. The plane did crash bust id did not caus the damage that the media made it look like. That was the first thing that led to this theory. Every one was so busy grieving to notice. Then they never showed that first footage of the beginngs of the pentagons attack. If it would have been a shaped charge it would have blown away from the remaining materials. Like the computer unscaved and the boxes of apparently unflamible super paper. hmm. Is it possible. I don't know either. I think it is worth looking into yet know one did. A least not the gov. owned media.

[QUOTE=Six On The Dot]Welcome to Angst: 2003
Starring: You

And only you.

Awww.[/QUOTE]

Let's not forget about a forced cameo spot from the cutest heroion punk junky on the Cult..................applause.............silence................some one coughs.........silence again..............the tide comes in............................................................................................................................................................................

It's so cool the way that the more you talk, the more insane you become. It's like an Edgar Allen Poe story. Only not entertaining.

[QUOTE=jane s.]It's so cool the way that the more you talk, the more insane you become. It's like an Edgar Allen Poe story. Only not entertaining.[/QUOTE]

thanx. That's like a compliment. And if I am not entertaining you then why do you insist on reading. Do you like reading boring shit. I mean I assumed you did but I wasn't sure.

[QUOTE=jane s.]It's so cool the way that the more you talk, the more insane you become. It's like an Edgar Allen Poe story. Only not entertaining.[/QUOTE]
And he doesn't get walled up in a dank cellar at the end.

[QUOTE=Recluse God]No they definately did die. but why was a blast fired off of each plane before impact.

Also it is believed that the pentagon bombing was a shaped charge. The video for this is no where to be found on television or official sources. But I saw it. [/QUOTE]

It's nowhere to be found... but you saw it. And we should take your word for it because?.... sounds kinda like what you're accusing the gov't of doing, *ahem* Making claims without evidence.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]It's nowhere to be found... but you saw it. And we should take your word for it because?.... sounds kinda like what you're accusing the gov't of doing, *ahem* Making claims without evidence.[/QUOTE]

well ok. I don't care if you take my word. Find it yourself. try Zero paid.com. If you care that much I have a copy of this video. If you pay the postage I'll send it to you.

anyone that wants it I will send it

I'm rating this thread 5 because ITS OPPOSITES WEDNESDAY! But only in this thread.

Also, why would you wanna be god of the third best Kevin Smith movie?

[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]Also, why would you wanna be god of the third best Kevin Smith movie?[/QUOTE]

ha. The amgod is dogma backwards. It was just the name I came up with. i thought it fit the thread.

if anyone is looking for sources start with alex jones. He's an extreme actavist but some of what he sais is true. Read about it and form your own opinion. then go from there. if you care.

so.. what conspiracy theory do you [I]not [/I] believe in? cause you've named off quite a few while vaguely alluding to others that I've never even heard.

My advice is simple. If you don't like the US of A, [B]move[/B].

If you want change, then get up and do something, but for real... who do you think you're convincing to stand up against the "oppressive gov't" on a website forum on the official website of a pulp fiction novelist? You must have meant to type in [url]www.I_am_fighting_for_a_lost_cause.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]I'm rating this thread 5 because ITS OPPOSITES WEDNESDAY! But only in this thread.[/QUOTE]
Your avatar is a MONSTER!!!

[QUOTE=Recluse God]well ok. I don't care if you take my word. Find it yourself. try Zero paid.com. If you care that much I have a copy of this video. If you pay the postage I'll send it to you.[/QUOTE]
[URL=http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf]I think this is what he is talking abut.[/URL]
Click the "Pentagon Strike Flash movie" link.

[QUOTE=Vendetta]Your avatar is a MONSTER!!![/QUOTE]
I LOVE LOVE LOVE F J's avatar... I've not seen anything that cool in years.

[QUOTE=Smartazboy][URL=http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf]I think this is what he is talking abut.[/URL]
Click the "Pentagon Strike Flash movie" link.[/QUOTE]

[URL=http://www.tubgirl.com]or this link to go directly to a montage of the crash.[/URL]

NOTE: may not be safe for work.

[QUOTE=Recluse God]thanx. That's like a compliment. And if I am not entertaining you then why do you insist on reading. Do you like reading boring shit. I mean I assumed you did but I wasn't sure.[/QUOTE]

Who said you weren't entertaining? All I said is that you're nuts. Crazy people can be fun too.

[QUOTE=ireLocus][URL=http://www.tubgirl.com]or this link to go directly to a montage of the crash.[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

i've heard of verbal dirreah but...

Recluse: are you a structural engineer / firefighter / crime scene investigator / plane crash enthuasist? If not, please do not go into detailed explanations about that which you do not understand.

also. this thread rocks

anyone here want to start denying the holocaust?