An end to Bush
The time is coming, and while the whole world is happy about Barak Obama, the taint of George W. Bush will hang over the United States and the world for a long time.
After so many years of obvious corruption, lies, mismanagement, and deceit from the current American government, I'm left wondering what will come of Bush after he leaves power. After he tumbles from top spot and no longer has his blanket. It hardly seems fair that he will go quietly into the background and enjoy all the benefits of being a former President.
I'm curious to hear what people think about this. I've read some articles that call for international criminal action to be brought against Bush. But, realistically I think it will never happen. the reason being that Americans never like to admit fault, and I'm sure even though the average American may detest Bush, they wouldn't allow themselves to undeniably proven wrong. Or who knows, maybe all the former collaborators will turn their backs on him and throw him to the wolves after he is no more use to their scheming.
It would set a very good example if the United States shows some responsibility and demands justice. Because really, for all that has happened in the past 8 years, there has been very little accountability, apart from media criticism and perhaps some small level of economic objection.
What do you think? Should Bush just be shunned and sent back to Texas to clear brush and collect his IOUs, or should he be held to scrutiny?
Thanks. I'm downloading the movie now on bitTorrent!
Dick Cheney is an entirely different story. Everyone knows he is guilty as sin and corrupt as can possible be. But amazingly he is so insulated that nobody can do anything about him. Everyone knows he is the real President and Bush is only the dumby who apears in front of the cameras.
I'm over the whole Bush thing...I want to know more about Putin and his crazily overt machinations. Tell me about that!
There is hope, but not for us.
Have you ever seen Viggo Mortensen in the movie Eastern Promises? Mortensen says he styled his character's enigmatic, withholding nature after Putin.
Anyway, Wikipedia has a page called "Criticism of Vladimir Putin" that you might be interested in,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Vladimir_Putin
Putin is a complete nutbar. I'm enjoying watching him turn into another crazy Russian dictator. There must be something in the water up there...
Just yesterday Putin got pushed through a bill to extend the presidental term from four to six years. This means that if he's re-elected to the position of president (he is prime minister right now, and I must confess that I don't understand how that system works...it seems like the president is more powerful than the prime minister?) he could potentially serve for twelve more years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7728789.stm
Russian MPs have backed a bill to extend the presidential term from four to six years amid speculation it may herald Vladimir Putin's early return.
The bill was announced only last week by President Dmitry Medvedev and is being fast-tracked through parliament.
Mr Putin became prime minister this year after being obliged under the constitution to step down after two consecutive presidential terms.
But speculation is rife that he is planning to return to the presidency.
The BBC's Richard Galpin says it has always been assumed that Mr Putin may return after Mr Medvedev has completed one term.
But the apparent rush to get this constitutional amendment through is being seen by some as a sign that Mr Putin is in a hurry and may return much sooner.
Then he could potentially serve another two six-year terms. The bill also extends the mandate of the lower house, the State Duma, from four years to five.
The Duma passed the bill in its first reading on Friday by 388 votes to 58.
The bill will have both its second and third readings in the Duma on Wednesday.
It must then be approved by the upper house, the Federation Council, after which regional assemblies will also vote on it - a process likely to continue into December.
There is no doubt the bill will be approved quickly as the Kremlin's party, United Russia, controls all the assemblies.
The constitutional change will only apply to the next president and the government says it is needed because the existing four-year term is too short to implement serious reforms in such a huge country.
One political analyst told the BBC that Mr Putin, who stood down as president in May, could now be planning to come back well before the next election in 2012 and wants a longer term in office.
The word is that Mr Putin wants to be able to deal with the financial crisis, which is beginning to hit Russia very hard, our correspondent reports.
Speaking earlier this week, Mr Putin denied the bill was tailor-made to bring him back to office, saying the legislation was aimed at "fostering the development of democracy" in Russia and had "no personal dimension".
He pointed out that in Finland, for example, the presidential term was also six years. In France, up until 2002, it was seven.
"As for who will run for office and when, it's too early to talk about that now," he added.
'Spring election'
The Communist opposition in the Duma attempted unsuccessfully to have the constitutional amendments bill removed from the agenda, arguing that there was no reason to make the changes now, given that the next election was not until 2012.
Russia's constitution bars a president from serving more than two terms consecutively, but Mr Putin could be re-elected for a third term after his protege Mr Medvedev.
Vladimir Ryzhkov, a commentator and former opposition MP, theorised in a newspaper article on Friday how Mr Putin, who is still a hugely popular figure in Russia, could return to the Kremlin early.
"Using pretexts such as the new constitution and the need to strengthen the state in the face of the crisis, he might announce through Medvedev snap presidential and parliamentary elections as early as March or April," he wrote in the Moscow Times.
There is hope, but not for us.
bush was a turd, he was a turd made by his papa and cheney, he came from cheney and daddy bushes butt, he killed thhis country, HE NEEDS TO DIE AS A SACRIFICE!
Oh also, I would be in favor of putting Bush up for trial, full-on Nuremberg style. But how does one even go about doing that? If he lost, would be get beheaded? I don't really want him to get beheaded.
There is hope, but not for us.
bush is a war criminal if i saw that bitch on the street, i'd hit him with a brick pull him into the brush and pay negroes to fornicate him with stuff!
What kinda stuff!!
There is hope, but not for us.
this and that!
Hey morons. I'm not Russian. I just live here! It's really telling how started to attack Russia because of a critisism against America. Really telling!
Shame on you.
Think about that.
liar, get out lying russian faggot, move yer shit fag.
Was that really necessary? I mean, come on.
Shame on you.
Think about that.
Think about this, BROTHERRRR!
Shame on you.
Think about that.
Did I attack your country? Or its citizens? Did I?? No, I'm pretty sure I said mildly slighting things about your fucking president, which is the exact same thing you did to me and mine. So why don't you go think about that. A leader is not the same thing as its people, of which you seem to be unaware, judging by your pithy comment about how Americans won't admit to being wrong.
There is hope, but not for us.
Shame on you.
Think about that.
Did I attack your country? Or its citizens? Did I?? No, I'm pretty sure I said mildly slighting things about your fucking president, which is the exact same thing you did to me and mine. So why don't you go think about that. A leader is not the same thing as its people, of which you seem to be unaware, judging by your pithy comment about how Americans won't admit to being wrong.
He has a point about our stubbornness - remember that time we practiced communism for like 70 years even though it was obviously a fucking farce right from the beginning?
It's not easy having a good time.
Even smiling makes my face ache.
Shame on you.
Think about that.
Oh.
You're French, aren't you? How do you like that Carla Bruni broad? She's hawt.
This signature does not quote anything. Evar.
I will never get the image of George Bush's hovering taint out of my mind...
Shame on you.
Think about that.
Did I attack your country? Or its citizens? Did I?? No, I'm pretty sure I said mildly slighting things about your fucking president, which is the exact same thing you did to me and mine. So why don't you go think about that. A leader is not the same thing as its people, of which you seem to be unaware, judging by your pithy comment about how Americans won't admit to being wrong.
He has a point about our stubbornness - remember that time we practiced communism for like 70 years even though it was obviously a fucking farce right from the beginning?
Do you also remember that time that our monarchy was defeated by a mysticist and centuries of inbreeding?
There is hope, but not for us.
didn't the first thing putin do as prime minister was immediatly extend the powers of PM? or something goofy like that.
Anyways, Bush will ultimately just be a historical joke. Same as Nixon. Even how awful he was he's nothing more than the butt of jokes now 30 years later.
But, people! Bush isn't out of office yet! I still say him a Cheney will pull something out of their ass, before Jan 20th, about needing to stay in power till the terrorism threat is over and they'll just completely dicatorship the whole place!
Dear InRussia!
Please, shut up and don't call other people morons!
Because of people like you the whole world thinks that Russa is a barbarian country
If you was born in Soviet Union and speak Russian not Tamili or Chinesse who are you?
Japanese or a Jew?
Dear Listo!
Please don't tell people to shut up. Many thanks.
Bush and Cheney will never be charged with anything.
Please don't tell people to shut up. Many thanks.
didn't you do that exact thing with this post?
Please don't tell people to shut up. Many thanks.
didn't you do that exact thing with this post?
If I did the exact thing, I would have said, "Shut up, Listo." Which I didn't. I suppose I could have been more polite about it, though. I could have said pretty please with sugar on top. But sugar is fattening, so I figured I'd spare Listo the extra calories.
Please don't tell people to shut up. Many thanks.
Ok! So let InRussia continue calling you a moron
Please don't tell people to shut up. Many thanks.
Ok! So let InRussia continue calling you a moron
Awe, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be so, like, sarcastic. I just think people shouldn't be rude to one another. But I guess I was rude myself, so I apologize. But if you're feeling sore at me, just look at my bunny for a while and you'll soon feel better.
Bug's bunny was sorely overlooked, I totally made myself chuckle at that, I was thinking 'That's real good, people will like that'.
Here ya go Amy, you can watch him anytime!
NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
There is hope, but not for us.
I found this for you, Jane. It's kind of old, but this thread reminded me of it. Enjoy: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/01/29/070129fa_fact_specter
Also, here's an essay from this month's Harper's about prosecuting Bush (et al) in a Nuremberg type setting (sorta).
NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND?? What did I miss?
It was gold I tells ya!
Doh! It went right over my head. It is GOLD. I'm just fuzzy today.
NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!
I got it.
You've warmed my heart 
Have you ever seen Viggo Mortensen in the movie Eastern Promises? Mortensen says he styled his character's enigmatic, withholding nature after Putin.
Anyway, Wikipedia has a page called "Criticism of Vladimir Putin" that you might be interested in,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Vladimir_Putin
From the Putin Wiki page -
When asked at a press conference on February 14, 2008 that some papers wrote of him as the richest person in Europe, and if this is true, then what would be the sources of his wealth, Putin was quoted as saying the following in response: "This is true. I am the richest person not only in Europe, but also in the world. I collect emotions. And I am rich in that respect that the people of Russia have twice entrusted me with leadership of such a great country as Russia. I consider this to be my biggest fortune. As for the rumors concerning my financial wealth, I have seen some pieces of paper regarding this. This is plain chatter, not worthy discussion, plain bosh. They have picked this in their noses and have smeared this across their pieces of paper. This is how I view this.">
I <3 Putin
Have you seen the documentary Taxi to the Dark Side? I highly, highly recommend this movie to everyone. After I saw this doc, I really wanted Dick Cheney to be charged with human rights violations and war crimes. I saw this doc at a special screening, and the producer was there, and if I remember correctly, he said that Dick Cheney had been charged with war crimes by Germany, but Germany relented and stopped after political pressure from the US.
Here, read this review of the documentary,
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080207/REVIE...