Congratulations America, you're the fattest country in camp

People really are extremely stupid. Yeah, you can lose a lot of water and muscle weight on these diets, but once you return to you normal eating habits, and you should because these diets are very unhealthy, you will balloon right back up. Americans just can't grasp the concept of NOT EATING A TON OF FOOD. Americans more foods that are lower in fat these days, but the portions are nearly double that of 50 years ago. And exercise is what you get searching for the TV remote. Come on! Is it really so hard to just be healthy and put aside the gimmicks?

i'm so glad i have such a small appetite. i've [i]never[/i] been able to finish the giant fucking meals they give you at restaurants. i don't get what's so hard. i mean, here's my secret guys - I EAT WHEN I'M HUNGRY AND WHEN I'M FULL I STOP EATING.

it's kind of tricky, but once you get the hang of it it's not too bad, you know?

ps: nightmonkie should keep his bullshit out of this paticular forum.

[QUOTE=disx]i mean, here's my secret guys - I EAT WHEN I'M HUNGRY AND WHEN I'M FULL I STOP EATING.[/QUOTE]
eating when you're hungry, and not just randomly stuffing food in your mouth all day? how do you survive?
this is the best dietary advice ever. you know, the way things are meant to be.
here's a tip, it can take from 10-15 minutes for all the food to make it's way to your stomach, so eat slowly, and you'd be surprised how much fuller you can feel on so much less.

I eat maybe once a day... But should probably loose a few pounds to be "healthy".
I probably just don't care enough.

nightmonkie, is the title of your thread a nod to the movie "heavyweights?"

[QUOTE=DillingerEscape]I eat maybe once a day... But should probably loose a few pounds to be "healthy".
I probably just don't care enough.[/QUOTE]

Eating once a day is actually really terrible for your body. I can almost guarantee you that if you ate small meals and snacks several times during the day when you felt hungry you would lose weight.

exactly.
i was going to post that. that's basically what i meant by 'eating when i'm hungry'... i can't remember the last time i ever had lunch, breakfast or dinner.. i just eat whenever.

i don't actually know, but i mean, this makes sense to me so...
if you eat often and don't eat on a regular schedule, but keep your meals small - that's the way to do it. cos if you only eat now and then your metabolism can slow down when you're not eating and if you eat at regular intervals your metabolism would fall into that rhythm and slow down whenever it's expecting you to not eat. so, if you eat all the time and randomly at that - your metabolism is forced to keep up with you. just keep the meals small & healthy, obviously.

i've never really read up on this, but i mean, it makes sense, no?
if my weight ever became a problem i'd certainly research it just to make sure, but for now it makes sense and has kept me nice and thin.

[QUOTE=alene]Eating once a day is actually really terrible for your body. I can almost guarantee you that if you ate small meals and snacks several times during the day when you felt hungry you would lose weight.[/QUOTE]

I never really feel hungry. Except of course the once a day. Maybe I could try to eat more often tho in smaller portions.......

[QUOTE=disx]
i don't actually know, but i mean, this makes sense to me so...
if you eat often and don't eat on a regular schedule, but keep your meals small - that's the way to do it. cos if you only eat now and then your metabolism can slow down when you're not eating and if you eat at regular intervals your metabolism would fall into that rhythm and slow down whenever it's expecting you to not eat. so, if you eat all the time and randomly at that - your metabolism is forced to keep up with you. just keep the meals small & healthy, obviously.
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Sounds good to me.....

I wait tables. and I'm getting so sick of this shit. I can now pick out an atkin's dieter as easily as...well, it's easy. I althought people in general are stupid, but to go into a restaraunt and order a fucking triple cheese and bacon burger hold the fucking bread!?! What the fuck. It's just the new fad in "convenient ways to get unfat." I always ask my tables if they're on the diet when I get any sort of hint that they might be. You know, very friendly like, because I'm their server, afterall. And they always go "tehehe. How did you know?" blahblah blah. Then I tell them that being a vegetarian has always kept me skinny. It's the antiAtkin's diet. And they just cant believe I eat all those carbs. I tell them all that I eat loads of carbs every day. I just don't gorge myself. They can't really say anything, but they don't tip well either.

yeah i eat plenty of bread/carbs/whatever.
shit i was living off of frozen spaghetti dinners almost exclusively for awhile there.
but yeh no gorging.

atkins sounds really homosexual in the nono way.
my friend was like "hay my dad/uncle/something did it forever and he's fat and dead now."
and i was like duh

if UCB wuz real we could have the fat camps put into place
it would be glorious.

okay, i'll admit it. i'm one of those fat asses, but i'm working on it. some tips you guys are mentioning are eat slow, exercise, eat small, and fuck those low-carb diets. any other tips? suggestions? motivational pep-talks? help a cult member become healthy.

i'd suggest pm'ing brock if you're really serious about it.

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]okay, i'll admit it. i'm one of those fat asses, but i'm working on it. some tips you guys are mentioning are eat slow, exercise, eat small, and fuck those low-carb diets. any other tips? suggestions? motivational pep-talks? help a cult member become healthy.[/QUOTE]
exercise is prob the most important thing. once you start moving, even a little bit, you'll begin to lose weight. also, if you're a soda drinker, stop. start drinking water. drink more water anyway.

p.s. brock is not nutritionally sound. he eats body-builder meals, which are not suitable for the average bear.

granted, but he could probably still give him good advice. he's done his research, or so he says.

[QUOTE=moe.ron]nightmonkie, is the title of your thread a nod to the movie "heavyweights?"[/QUOTE]

Whether he knows it or not, yes. Yes, it is.

And maybe it's just me, but after moving across the pond, I haven't noticed a huge difference in the number of big-boned people. Just 'cause we're the only ones that get frontline coverage of our obesity doesn't mean we're the only ones suffering.

"lunch has been cancelled, due to the lack of hussle"

[QUOTE=disx]exactly.
i was going to post that. that's basically what i meant by 'eating when i'm hungry'... i can't remember the last time i ever had lunch, breakfast or dinner.. i just eat whenever.

i don't actually know, but i mean, this makes sense to me so...
if you eat often and don't eat on a regular schedule, but keep your meals small - that's the way to do it. cos if you only eat now and then your metabolism can slow down when you're not eating and if you eat at regular intervals your metabolism would fall into that rhythm and slow down whenever it's expecting you to not eat. so, if you eat all the time and randomly at that - your metabolism is forced to keep up with you. just keep the meals small & healthy, obviously.

i've never really read up on this, but i mean, it makes sense, no?
if my weight ever became a problem i'd certainly research it just to make sure, but for now it makes sense and has kept me nice and thin.[/QUOTE]

absolutely... I eat literally 8 meals or more a day, usually every 1 1/2 hours or 2 hours. I go to an extreme, but the thinking is the same. Eating fairly constantly keeps the fire's burning. They say your metabolism rises and stays going for 1-3 hours after you eat, which is why to burn more calories, more fat, etc... you have to eat frequently...

[QUOTE=qualitycontrolrep]I wait tables. and I'm getting so sick of this shit. I can now pick out an atkin's dieter as easily as...well, it's easy. I althought people in general are stupid, but to go into a restaraunt and order a fucking triple cheese and bacon burger hold the fucking bread!?! What the fuck. It's just the new fad in "convenient ways to get unfat." I always ask my tables if they're on the diet when I get any sort of hint that they might be. You know, very friendly like, because I'm their server, afterall. And they always go "tehehe. How did you know?" blahblah blah. Then I tell them that being a vegetarian has always kept me skinny. It's the antiAtkin's diet. And they just cant believe I eat all those carbs. I tell them all that I eat loads of carbs every day. I just don't gorge myself. They can't really say anything, but they don't tip well either.[/QUOTE]

Holding the bread will not make you unfat. It's just a way to cut carbs. Carbs will make you fat if you eat too many. That is all. Carbs are not bad. You just have to know what kind to eat, when to eat them, and how much to eat. Really, I never eat more than one serving of bread per meal... and that serving varies... sometimes it's one wheat roll, sometimes it's a jumbo pizza... and I eat what could be termed Atkin's even though it's just good nutrition that people trying to gain muscle have been eating for years... protein and fat and carbs are not so impossible to understand that I need some dead crotcherty doctor to tell me how to eat. Hell, I look at indians. Those warrior dudes were lean and ate a lot of meat. They hunted and ate food. Tyler Durden's fantasy about beef jerky and venison on highways and hunting and all that shit could be called Atkins too, but it's not...

[QUOTE=moe.ron]exercise is prob the most important thing. once you start moving, even a little bit, you'll begin to lose weight. also, if you're a soda drinker, stop. start drinking water. drink more water anyway.

p.s. brock is not nutritionally sound. he eats body-builder meals, which are not suitable for the average bear.[/QUOTE]

Bullshit. My meals are absolutely nutirionally sound. You make it sound like a muscular person is not healthy. I eat 30 percent carbs, 30 percent fat, and 40 percent protein... basically. If being lean is not nutritionally-sound than perhaps, but I call bullshit. Maybe my portions are too much for the average bear, but not my nutritional logic. I have weighed everywhere from 320 pounds to 180 lbs. I have not always lifted weights. I know how to lose and gain. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong in this regard. I mean actual proof. Explain to me why carbs and protein and fat are not nutritionally sound. Explain to me why the food I eat is not healthy for anyone. Nonsense. Women and men are not so different when it comes to nutrition. Just because I don't eat complete crap does not make me abnormal. I find that highly insulting. Offensive even...

Take soda. I don't drink soda. Why? Because the sugar causes an insulin spike, is a high-glycemic carb and has no nutritional value and turns to fat in the body if not burned off immediately. Tell me how that isn't nutritionally sound...

your diet works for you, but a fat bastard isn't going to GET lean by eating steaks for breakfast. actually, i take that back...atkins says you'll loose weight by eating steaks for breakfast, and all those people who've lost 200 lbs by not eating any carbs will agree. they'll agree until the bags under their eyes swallow them whole, or their gall stones kill them.

p.s. sorry for inadvertantly insulting you.

[QUOTE=moe.ron]p.s. sorry for inadvertantly insulting you.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't really mad. I was faking. You're not so offensive as you seem, it would... um... seem...

[QUOTE=moe.ron]your diet works for you, but a fat bastard isn't going to GET lean by eating steaks for breakfast. actually, i take that back...atkins says you'll loose weight by eating steaks for breakfast, and all those people who've lost 200 lbs by not eating any carbs will agree. they'll agree until the bags under their eyes swallow them whole, or their gall stones kill them.[/QUOTE]

I don't endorse Atkins by the way and I would never eat that way. I do eat steaks for breakfast, but since when is meat bad, miss whopper?

Nutrition is not hard to figure out. The only reason I have it mastered is because I care about my body. Atkins is an EXTREME. I do not think ANY EXTREME is good when it comes to nutrition. You seem to be anti-Atkins, so what then? Vegetarianism? No protein? I don't blame you for reacting the way you do to Atkins. I blame the media for demonizing carbs...

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]I don't endorse Atkins by the way and I would never eat that way. I do eat steaks for breakfast, but since when is meat bad, miss whopper?

Nutrition is not hard to figure out. The only reason I have it mastered is because I care about my body. Atkins is an EXTREME. I do not think ANY EXTREME is good when it comes to nutrition. You seem to be anti-Atkins, so what then? Vegetarianism? No protein? I don't blame you for reacting the way you do to Atkins. I blame the media for demonizing carbs...[/QUOTE]

the whopper thing was in ref. to a new commercial, btw.

i'm anti-atkins for the very same reasons you are, and because people view it as an easy-out. you know how the thinking goes - "i'll follow this eat-bacon-all-day plan, because i loves me some bacon, and i'll lose 100 lbs...i don't even have to exercise!!" ya know?

i'm not anti-protein or anti-meat by any means!

[QUOTE=moe.ron]the whopper thing was in ref. to a new commercial, btw.

i'm anti-atkins for the very same reasons you are, and because people view it as an easy-out. you know how the thinking goes - "i'll follow this eat-bacon-all-day plan, because i loves me some bacon, and i'll lose 100 lbs...i don't even have to exercise!!" ya know?

i'm not anti-protein or anti-meat by any means![/QUOTE]

So, in essence, you are exactly the same as me. You aren't really anti-Atkins, you aren't even anti-meat or carbs or any of that. You are anti-stupidity...

As far as that goes, I did lose an enormous amount of weight one time on an all beef-jerky diet. Sometimes I get extreme like that, like with all-tuna or something. It works. You get lean. But obviously, once you start eating other food things change. In actuality, if someone is a completely fat bastard, maybe extreme would be good toget them down to a somewhat less fattyness, but of course, in the long run, they have to change their entire way of eating forever if they want to maintain their health...

and as much as I hate Oprah, she is right when she calls it "emotional eating". Fat people don't need junk like they think they do. It's the same reason as a kid, my dad would eat a whole pecan pie at one sitting followed by a liter of wild turkey...

what i'm really anti- is "easy way out" being healthy is a lifestyle, which you've said before. that's not saying you CAN'T enjoy some potato chips or a hunk of chocolate cake now and then...but all things in moderation.

and i'm also anti-anti-exercise!! again, i'm not saying everyone should follow a routine such as yours, but christ on a cracker, take the stairs once in a while!

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]okay, i'll admit it. i'm one of those fat asses, but i'm working on it. some tips you guys are mentioning are eat slow, exercise, eat small, and fuck those low-carb diets. any other tips? suggestions? motivational pep-talks? help a cult member become healthy.[/QUOTE]

Exercise really is the most important thing. Even if it is a brisk walk 30 minutes a day 4 times a week. If you cut your calories your body thinks that you are running low on food, so it conserves. But if you exercise it kicks your body into gear and it starts eating those calories. But don't overdo the exercise. Once you start going too hard or fast your body stops eating fat and starts gearing up for endurance.

The other important thing to remember is that portion size is very important. We modern americans have NO clue what the proper portion is. 40 years ago a bagel was a third as small as it is now. A meal should be the size of a common appetizer when you eat out. You can figure out how many calories you need to eat a day to keep your weight with this:

Your daily calorie needs

Use this formula to compute what you should be consuming.

STEP 1: Determine your RMR
RMR = 655 + (9.6 X your weight in kilograms)
+ (1.8 X your height in centimeters)
– (4.7 X your age in years)

Note: Your weight in kilograms = your weight in pounds divided by 2.2. Your height in centimeters = your height in inches multiplied by 2.54.

STEP 2: Factor in your daily activity
Multiply your RMR by the appropriate activity factor:

If you are sedentary (little or no activity): RMR X 1.2

If you are slightly active (light exercise/sports 1–3 days a week): RMR X 1.375

If you are moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3–5 days a week): RMR X 1.55

If you are very active (strenuous exercise/sports 6–7 days a week): RMR X 1.725

If you are extra-active (very strenuous daily exercise, sports or physical job or training twice a day): RMR X 1.9

RESULT: Your final figure represents the minimum number of daily calories needed to maintain your current weight.

If you want to lose weight, cut about 300 - 400 calories. You don't want to lose more than 2 pounds a week - it isn't healthy and it won't stay off. You need to create a deficit of about 3000 calories to lose one pound. You should eat about 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fat.

You will feel hungry at first when you try to start eating less because you have trained your body to expect food too often. But after a few weeks you will get rid of this feeling and start to recognize only when you are hungry. Another thing to remember is: don't diet. You can't deny yourself things you love, because you will just break and binge. So if you love cake, eat a SMALL slice and work out an extra 20 minutes the next day. Dieting doesn't work, you have to change the way you eat. It isn't a temporary thing, it is a lifelong change. Once you reach your goal weight, you can increase your calories to whatever the forumal says, and at that point it will just be second nature to you. You won't even have to think about it anymore. I'd recommend using 24hourfitness.com for their fitness tracking. It is free, and you tell them what kind of work out you did, what you ate and it calculates your diet, your calories etc... it rocks.

I lost 20 pounds riding my bike 5 days a week for about 45 minutes and eating well in about 4 months. I haven't gained a pound back in 3 years, even when I am lazy or eat bad.

Oh, and drink lots of water.

Did you even get this far?

[QUOTE=alene]
Did you even get this far?[/QUOTE]

baby steps at the moment. i cut that excess sugar intake, such as soda, candy, and so on. more excerise, but not overkill. i'm drinking more water than i used to. gradually cutting the calories. i'm proud to say this fat-ass is on the way to become just an ass.
any other suggestions would be greatly considered, so do post.

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]baby steps at the moment. i cut that excess sugar intake, such as soda, candy, and so on. more excerise, but not overkill. i'm drinking more water than i used to. gradually cutting the calories. i'm proud to say this fat-ass is on the way to become just an ass.
any other suggestions would be greatly considered, so do post.[/QUOTE]

Here is a simple formula. A retard could use this. Take your weight and divide it by 2.2. Take the answer and multiply it by 24. That's how many calories you need to maintain your current weight. If you want to lose weight, eat les calories than that. It cannot be any easier...