Cheney: Vote Bush or die
[I]"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States,'' Cheney told supporters at a town-hall meeting.
"And then we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mindset, if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts and that we're not really at war. I think that would be a terrible mistake for us."[/I]
Despicable... absolutely motherfucking despicable
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I've been saying Vote Bush or Die for years now. What's wrong with Chaney, its not like him to be so not with it.
the funny thing is, it seems like that's all Republicans have to run on, is fear of terrorists.
the funnier thing is, Americans are stupid enough to buy it.
What's funniest, is that the Democrats have been castrated into helplessness. They drive for the center, and lose their message, while Republicans drive for the far-right, and enjoy their greatest support of all time.
Can someone explain how the USA got rid of MacCarthyism and its anti red paranoia ? It seems to me we're in a similar situation.
is it just me or are people already back in a pre-9/11 mindset? they're being petty and selfish consumer sheep as usual as far as i'm concerned. fuckers.
[QUOTE=big S]is it just me or are people already back in a pre-9/11 mindset? they're being petty and selfish consumer sheep as usual as far as i'm concerned. fuckers.[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about? after 9/11 there was maybe a 6 month hiatus. we've been back on track now for two and a half years.
Vote for Bush: die.
Vote for Kerry: die.
Either way, you're voting to extend the status-quo. Vote Libertarian (or another third party that reflects your views and hasn't been bought off). Coke and Pepsi are not 'choices.'
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
[QUOTE=Chixulub]Vote for Bush: die.
Vote for Kerry: die.
Either way, you're voting to extend the status-quo. Vote Libertarian (or another third party that reflects your views and hasn't been bought off). Coke and Pepsi are not 'choices.'[/QUOTE]
What's libertarian, Dr. Pepper? Or they something like Mr. Pib or Dr. Rocket? Or Gatorade?
Unfortunately, thinking like that just hands the election to your more opposed candidate. The Nader voters got Bush in office. The Ross Perot voters got Clinton in office.
In Ohio, one of the most highly contested states, 50,000 signatures were collected to get Nader on the ballot. 45,000 were collected by Republicans.
Fuck politics.
When you vote third party you're not being "cool" by being nonconformist, you're in essence voting for the guy you most disagree with.
[QUOTE=Skaje]Unfortunately, thinking like that just hands the election to your more opposed candidate. The Nader voters got Bush in office. The Ross Perot voters got Clinton in office.
In Ohio, one of the most highly contested states, 50,000 signatures were collected to get Nader on the ballot. 45,000 were collected by Republicans.
Fuck politics.
When you vote third party you're not being "cool" by being nonconformist, you're in essence voting for the guy you most disagree with.[/QUOTE]
Oh god, not another one. Watch your back, Sjakeeskasiski.
In L.A. today my friend saw people on an overpss holding a sign that read: Voting For Bush Will Give You Cancer. I assume it was meant as ironic commentary on the Cheney statement.
Or not.
L.A. is only ironic to people [I]outside[/I] L.A.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
[QUOTE=Parkaboy]In L.A. today my friend saw people on an overpss holding a sign that read: Voting For Bush Will Give You Cancer. I assume it was meant as ironic commentary on the Cheney statement.
Or not.
L.A. is only ironic to people [I]outside[/I] L.A.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was a statement about Bush's top secret environmental policy. Voting Bush merely ensures that the carcinogenic environment is ensured continued success.
Meh.
[QUOTE=goldenmean]Maybe it was a statement about Bush's top secret environmental policy. Voting Bush merely ensures that the carcinogenic environment is ensured continued success.[/QUOTE]
Maybe. In L.A. that's certainly a possibility. But the ironic take is far more clever.
Yeah, you're probably right.
People aren't clever.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Maybe. In L.A. that's certainly a possibility. But the ironic take is far more clever.
Yeah, you're probably right.
People aren't clever.[/QUOTE]
Well, maybe not a lot of the people who are making signs.
Meh.
[QUOTE=alex cassun]Oh god, not another one. Watch your back, Sjakeeskasiski.[/QUOTE]
Thanks alexelelexelx cassnussususnscas. I will. 
You vote Bush?
[QUOTE=goldenmean]Well, maybe not a lot of the people who are making signs.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
[QUOTE=Skaje]Thanks alexelelexelx cassnussususnscas. I will.
You vote Bush?[/QUOTE]
uh, yeah.
[QUOTE=alex cassun]What's libertarian, Dr. Pepper? Or they something like Mr. Pib or Dr. Rocket? Or Gatorade?[/QUOTE]
Libertarian is homebrew.
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
[QUOTE=Chixulub]Libertarian is homebrew.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but unfortunately it's a [I]microbrew[/I].
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
Didn't anyone see this coming? It had to be in the Republican's plan since the election started. AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING INTO THIS?! This country is fucked and so is the rest of the world.
[COLOR=DarkGreen]"Those who fear the dark have never seen what the light can do."[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Yes, but unfortunately it's a [I]microbrew[/I].[/QUOTE]
The great thing about making your own beer, though, is you get to decide whether to make an Imperial Stout or a Pale Ale, a Belgian Dubbel or a peat-smoked Scotch Ale. And you pay almost no tax on it (malt gets taxed, and there's sales tax, but it's nowhere near the 50% or so of the price of a commercial beer that goes to the govt.)
I'm the first to admit that if the Libertarian Party was to ditch the statue as emblem and go for an animal (to fit the donkey/elephant thing) the only logical animal would be the lemming. Every four years Libertarians file for office and tell each other they have a chance, when the odds are better of walking into a casino and breaking the house.
I still maintain that any third party is more worthy of a vote than the assholes who made the mess. I see politicians walking in parades, like they're as interesting as a float or a marching band, as if they were as sophisticated as those little Shriner cars. I see them and I think, 'have they no shame?' They're PROUD to be part of the system, it's creepy. It's like watching a Charlie Manson interview.
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
[QUOTE=Gaeasoldier]Didn't anyone see this coming? It had to be in the Republican's plan since the election started. AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING INTO THIS?! This country is fucked and so is the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]
It's sad, but true: there are people who believe there is a substantial difference between Bush and Kerry.
Tastes Great! Less Filling!
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
[QUOTE=Chixulub]It's sad, but true: there are people who believe there is a substantial difference between Bush and Kerry.
Tastes Great! Less Filling![/QUOTE]
There is. Substantial might not be the right word, but there is a difference, and you cannot convince me otherwise after the last four fucking years.
[QUOTE=Balthazar]There is. Substantial might not be the right word, but there is a difference, and you cannot convince me otherwise after the last four fucking years.[/QUOTE]
To me a choice between Bush and Kerry is like a choice between the gas chamber and the electric chair.
Also, I think perhaps some people think the Pres has more power than he really does. He's not like the Queen of England, but he doesn't control, for instance, the Federal Reserve, he not only doesn't write the budget he can't even do a line-item veto. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates probably have more power than a President in a lot of ways. Though as P.J. O'Rourke points out, there's a difference between Wal-Mart selling guns and Wal-Mart [i]having[/i] guns.
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
Yeah, just keep saying there's not much difference between Bush and Kerry, right up to the point Roe v. Wade is overturned, gay marriage is outlawed (they'll try again), and contraception becomes illegal.
Clinton/Dole = two moderates
Bush/Kerry = two extremists (although Kerry pretends to be moderate).
If that's your cup of tea, vote Bush. Personally, I think the government should stay out of our private lives...wait, wasn't that a conservative idea?
[QUOTE=Skaje]Yeah, just keep saying there's not much difference between Bush and Kerry, right up to the point Roe v. Wade is overturned, gay marriage is outlawed (they'll try again), and contraception becomes illegal.
Clinton/Dole = two moderates
Bush/Kerry = two extremists (although Kerry pretends to be moderate).
If that's your cup of tea, vote Bush. Personally, I think the government should stay out of our private lives...wait, wasn't that a conservative idea?[/QUOTE]
Clinton, Dole, Bush, Kerry, etc., are all the same thing: sociopathic, power-hungry cunts who should probably be hanged as an example to others.
Libertarians are the ones who want government to stayout of your private life. Pro-life Libertarians (like me) happen to think your rights begin at conception, though the party platform upholds the right of doctors to victimize women while murdering babies for fun and profit.
As far as gay marriage goes, I knew a lesbian couple that got married in 1988. The state just didn't sanction it. They had a ceremony at a Quaker meeting house. No big deal. The state doesn't have any business regulating marriage in the first place, and the issue has raced to the bottom of the intellectual spectrum because it's really about one group wanting marriage licenses for health insurance and other economic reasons, and another group wants the state to sanction their narrow definition of marriage.
When we call soccer 'football' the terrorists have won.
Cunt.
[QUOTE]Cheney: Terrorists May Bomb U.S. Cities
Tue Oct 19, 6:03 PM ET
By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS, Associated Press Writer
CARROLL, Ohio - Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday raised the possibility of terrorists bombing U.S. cities with nuclear weapons and questioned whether Sen. John Kerry could combat such an "ultimate threat ... you've got to get your mind around."
"The biggest threat we face now as a nation is the possibility of terrorists ending up in the middle of one of our cities with deadlier weapons than have ever before been used against us — biological agents or a nuclear weapon or a chemical weapon of some kind to be able to threaten the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans," Cheney said.
"That's the ultimate threat. For us to have a strategy that's capable of defeating that threat, you've got to get your mind around that concept," Cheney said.
Cheney, speaking to an invitation-only crowd as he began a bus tour through Republican strongholds in Ohio, said Kerry is trying to convince voters he would be the same type of "tough, aggressive" leader as President Bush in the fight against terrorism.
"I don't believe it," the vice president said. "I don't think there's any evidence to support the proposition that he would, in fact, do it."
The Democrats called Cheney's comments ironic.
"He has the audacity to question whether a decorated combat veteran who has bled on the battlefield is tough and aggressive enough to keep America safe," said Mark Kitchens, Kerry campaign national security spokesman. "He wants to scare Americans about a possible nuclear 9/11 while the Bush administration has been on the sidelines while the nuclear threats from North Korea and Iran — the word's leading sponsor of terrorism — have increased."
Cheney raised the specter of nuclear attacks at the same time he said Kerry was "over the top" with remarks during the last presidential debate about daughter Mary Cheney.
"It's the first time I can recall where one presidential candidate tried to drag the family of another into — to make a political point, some kind of policy point in connection with the presidential debates," he said in an interview on Fox News Channel, to be broadcast Wednesday night.
Kerry mentioned the vice president's daughter, noting she is a lesbian, while answering a question about homosexuality.
The Kerry campaign has contended its Republican opponents are trying to frighten people with warnings of likely terrorist attacks in the United States and by suggesting America's enemies want Bush to be defeated.
In Des Moines, Iowa, on Sept. 7, Cheney told supporters: "It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again, that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind-set, if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts and that we're not really at war."
Cheney praised the recent elections in Afghanistan but said they don't mean the U.S. mission there is finished.
"Does that mean it's over now and we can walk away? No, it doesn't," he said. "This is three yards and a cloud of dust. There's no touchdown passes in this business. We'll stay as long as we need to help them train their own security forces, which we're doing actively so they can take over responsibility for their own security."[/QUOTE]
It's not easy having a good time.
Even smiling makes my face ache.
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Will it ever end???
[QUOTE][SIZE=5]Cheney Vows To Attack U.S. If Kerry Elected[/SIZE]
GREENSBORO, NC—In an announcement that has alarmed voters across the nation, Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that he will personally attack the U.S. if Sen. John Kerry wins the next election.
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Above: Cheney issues a warning to Greensboro, NC voters.
"If the wrong man is elected in November, the nation will come under a devastating armed attack of an unimaginable magnitude, one planned and executed by none other than myself," Cheney said, speaking at a rally in Greensboro, NC. "When they go to the polls, Americans must weigh this fact and decide if our nation can ignore such a grave threat."
Added Cheney: "It would be a tragedy to suffer another attack on American soil, let alone one perpetrated by an enemy as well-organized and well-equipped as I am. My colleagues and I urge voters to keep their safety in mind when they go to the polls."
Although Cheney would not comment on the details of his proposed attack on a John Kerry-led U.S., national-security experts said he possesses both the capabilities and the motivation to pose a serious threat.
"There is no question that Cheney has the financial assets and intelligence needed to pose a threat to our nation," said Peter Bergen, terrorism researcher and author of Threats And Balances: Former Executive Branch Officials And The Danger To America. "After all, this fanatic can call upon the resources of both the Republican Party and Halliburton to aid him in his assault. America would be foolish not to take his warning seriously."
After his speech, Cheney was asked to confirm his remarks.
"Make no mistake: If Kerry becomes president, no one will be safe from me," Cheney told reporters. "Businesses, places of worship, schools, public parks: No place will offer you refuge. A vote for Kerry is a vote to die in your own bed at the hands of Dick Cheney."
Stepping up to the podium after Cheney, Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge vowed to increase surveillance of the vice president.
"Wherever Cheney is—whether in his office in the White House or stumping in battleground states—we will be watching him," Ridge said. "I will not rule out raising the terror-alert level, should Kerry begin to draw ahead in the polls. Every percentage point conceded to Kerry brings the nation under greater threat of attack by Cheney."[/QUOTE]
It's not easy having a good time.
Even smiling makes my face ache.
Isn't it more or less the script of "24"'s second season ?
I almost hope that if Bush does win, we get hit with a nuclear bomb somewhere. Just to shut Cheney up.
A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.- Bertrand de Jovenal
Finishing Oz's post (ya beat me to the article post...hehehe):
"A war against Dick Cheney would be a long, hard struggle," Bush said. "It would be a difficult battle against a shadowy nemesis who is able to hide among us, loves only death and destruction, and hates our freedom. I have the experience, the leadership, and the Republican nomination required to protect us all—myself and my family included—from Dick Cheney."
Although the effect of Cheney's remarks has yet to register in the polls, some voters report that the vice president's threats have concerned them.
"Frankly, I'm terrified," said Dwayne Cummings, a 38-year-old metal-press operator from Cleveland, OH. "The idea of getting attacked by Cheney right now, at a time when I'm out of work, uninsured, and have kids to worry about, is overwhelming. I'm not sure I can vote for Kerry anymore."
Mary Pershing, a loom-worker and lifelong Democrat from Limestone, KY, said she appreciates the government's surveillance efforts.
"At least they're warning us about the danger," Pershing said. "I've always suspected Cheney might do something dangerous someday. Now that we have confirmation of a possible attack—from someone as high-ranking as the vice president, no less—we can make moves to stop it."
Cheney's remarks quickly drew a response from the Kerry campaign.
"I urge all Americans to remain calm in the face of this new threat," Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards said. "Rest assured that, once elected, John Kerry has a plan to contend with any threat against our nation, whether from rogue nations, terrorists, or former vice presidents."
"Should John Kerry be elected, he and I will work with, not against, the international community," Edwards added. "I have no doubt that we would be able to assemble a coalition of nations more than willing to aid us in the war against Dick Cheney."
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I couldn't agree more.
This is what happens when youlet big oil run the country.
Maybe I should change my sig to 'friends dont let friends vote big oil'