Censorship or not?

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mirka
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I just read the following [url=http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-violence5oct05,0,3603336.story?coll=la-home-business]article[/url] in the L.A. Times about possibly restricting sales of violent video games to minors:

[b]As the video game industry gears up to release a new generation of consoles that allow even sharper graphics and more realistic action, lawmakers nationwide are considering bans on the sale or rental of violent titles to minors.

In California, for instance, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has until midnight Thursday to act on a bill that would ban the sale to minors of games that "depict serious injury to human beings in a manner that is especially heinous, atrocious or cruel."[/b]

Personally, I think it's fine. I don't really consider it censorship. Minors are now restricted to what films they can see if they're not accompanied by an adult. I support a parent's right to decide what kind of sex and violence their children are exposed to. I'm really pissed about the Nip and Tuck billboards that are all around L.A showing a naked women with a knife stuck in her with two clothed men standing over her. I'd love for that kind of advertising to be illegal. But now I'm rambling. Thoughts?

Article here: [url]http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-violence5oct05,0,3603336.story?coll=la-home-business[/url]

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I think if they're gonna restrict movies then they should restrict video games and allow the parent to make the decission as to buy it. those that really want to get it will do so regardless of restriction though. its weird how we go insane if nipple is flashed on tv, but then can put everything else up on a 100' billboard.

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This isn't censorship, but this sort of act has been going on for years and was one of the goals behind giving video games ratings in the first place around 10 years ago. The talks of restricting sales to minors didn't work then and I doubt they'd work today.

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random kid: MOM BUY ME THAT VIDEO GAME! MOM! MOM! MOM! MOM! MOM! BUY!

Mother: Shut up you fucking bogger eater. Here you happy now!

I highly a doubt a game rating is going to prevent anything. Its the parents fault to begin with if they can't pay attention to what there kids do to begin with.

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How much does a newly released video game cost ? I suppose that if you can buy one with your own money, it means you are old enough to play it, and if you depend on your parents' money, they have the responsibility to check what it is used for.

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I think it is wrong to have little kids killing anybody in videogames, but nazis. nazis are ok. i support a little kid being able to bayonet a kraut in the face if he or she chooses.

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I don't think it could be called censorship. But if it is passed as law, it will be unenforceable. Kids can get their hands on any thing they want.

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if i was a parent, i would protect my children from seeing graphic images in videogames or other media at too early of an age. But many parents are irresponsibile, so i support game ratings.

Let kids be kids for a while. there are plenty of awsome games that kids can play. Sports games, etc.

What was that game, manhunter I think? you could kill someone by putting a plastic bag over their had and suffocating them to death. I think it is irresponsible to let a little kid see that.

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You know, I think all of us secretly want to shatter a car window and pull out a old lady by her ear and then steal her car then run her over with said car and smash up a perfectly nice lincoln town car into a bike messenger and a light post then have a bum ask you for change and beat him with a bat then shot up some doors windows and people that give you looks. I wouldn't have the energy to do this in real life or the inclination but having the opportunity provided by a game....well what is the harm in that. Granted I wouldn't want some 7 year getting his mitts on a game like that. He might confuse video with reality, I mean nobody sells drugs and shoots down people off the street and bangs hookers and kills them midway through since they can't get it up do to the extensive coke habit and drives around reckless destroy public property and hiding behind lawyers and ripping off the poor...you know that doesn't really happen at all in real life, so having it in a video game is harmful to a child that is virginized towards these things. Down with videogame! Bring out Monopoly...no wait that is sleezy game of domination of everyone else around you where you sole purpose is to make your fellow man or woman or child dead broke by making them stay at your place and paying. Well then I guess there is always battleship...no wait can't do that either you know because it promotes total annihilation of a neighbor and not taking surrender or peace talk nor mercy of any sorts, it is just 100% decimation of life on a plastic flip board. Society makes me sick.

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Whatever. I don't care.

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[QUOTE=mr_hash]I think if they're gonna restrict movies then they should restrict video games and allow the parent to make the decission as to buy it. those that really want to get it will do so regardless of restriction though. its weird how we go insane if nipple is flashed on tv, but then can put everything else up on a 100' billboard.[/QUOTE]
your argument fails when you say to let "the parent to make the decision".

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Care damn mitts. video games are your facet of watery justice. Eck gads man!

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I grew up on violence in the street and on tv. I grew up fine. Some kids are fucked up by default. Or their parents are lazy. Sometimes the parents and kids are dumb at the same time.

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[QUOTE=snuffy]I think it is wrong to have little kids killing anybody in videogames, but nazis. nazis are ok. i support a little kid being able to bayonet a kraut in the face if he or she chooses.[/QUOTE]
thats why i liked that wolfenstein game
shooting zombie nazis is the greatest thing in the history of great things !

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That Wolfenstein game used to scare the shit out of me. The end of the first level (I think) with that Japanese robot or something, and the way the soldiers would jump out at you and say, 'MYNAMEIS!' when you kill them.

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is that tthe x box one? thats the one i got and i dont remember any japs in it
maybe i need to play it again

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No it's an old PC one. This must have been more than ten years ago now.

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[QUOTE=Vendetta]That Wolfenstein game used to scare the shit out of me. The end of the first level (I think) with that Japanese robot or something, and the way the soldiers would jump out at you and say, 'MYNAMEIS!' when you kill them.[/QUOTE]

They said "MEIN LEBEN" ! ! !

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They said a bunch of different things.

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I'm pretty sure they never said "My name is".

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thats from the new slim shady game i think

also restricted

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Anyway it was this freaky Japanese robot who shot big things out of his chest, you'd be walking around this big room with lots of pillars and you'd hear this Asian voice say, 'Tangfastah' and then you'd know you had to face the robot. Sometimes I'd get so scared I'd just turn the computer off and go watch some Brookside with Nana and Grandad rather than finish the level.

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i think video games should be flat out outlawed.

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Well yeah. But barring that?

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[QUOTE=franc tireur]How much does a newly released video game cost ? I suppose that if you can buy one with your own money, it means you are old enough to play it, and if you depend on your parents' money, they have the responsibility to check what it is used for.[/QUOTE]

whoa, this guy is smart!! Smile Big

why get the govenment involved? why make stuff [B]illegal[/B]? what's the point?

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oh please!!!

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i just solds all the rooms and i don't care

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the reservation people will have to sleep on the beach

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morey, censor yourself!!

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[QUOTE=mirkah]In California, for instance, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has until midnight Thursday to act on a bill that would ban the sale to minors of games that "depict serious injury to human beings in a manner that is especially heinous, atrocious or cruel."[/QUOTE]
C'mon people the irony is killing me. When I was a minor, I watched Terminator, Commandos, Total Recall, etc. I guess if you have the funny one liner, that takes the "heinous" out of it.

What we really need is "Haunted: The Game." You get 5000 points for cutting off some lady's ass when she passes out then another 5000 when you fry it up and serve it to her later.

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This is a really good idea.

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chilodren should'nt watch anything, they are so dumb as it is.

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