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Masochism
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“Already you see millions of young Americans covered with tattoos, unable to speak proper English, unwilling to read a book or a newspaper. How do you think these people are going to compete in our hypercompetitive economic marketplace? The answer is that millions of them will be unable to compete, and will be doomed to a low wage existence. IBM will not hire you if you have a tattoo on your neck.”
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That guy is an asshole.

In addition, doesn't he realize that millions of people don't want to work at IBM? That working at IBM isn't the Holy Grail for most people? There are other ways to compete in the hyper competitive marketplace. And I bet the boys in Green Day have more money than him.

What a close minded dipshit.

I don't like tattoos either. And I have none. But his statement is plain stupid.

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If you measured his ego, how many licks would it take to get to the center?

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he has a point though. take a look at any respectable workplace, you do not see people with tattoos covering their bodies, piercings all over. you do see dress codes, including hair length even, you do see an attempt at having your staff look respectable and professional. it may be fun or trendy or cool to get a tattoo, or you might just like them, i've even given it thought, but you cannot push it to the extreme and expect the person hiring/interviewing you to take it into account.

skid, it's not about IBM, it's an example. if you're working in a biker shop, sure tattoo's dont come into play. in america however, usually the more the pay, the more the responsability the more ever last thing about you comes into play, from your smile, to your tats and piercings.

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shit, I lost my reply....bah, heres just the tail end of what I was going to say.

Its just sad that a employer wouldnt hire someone because of something that stupid and potentially missing out on a good hire.

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[QUOTE=Masochism]shit, I lost my reply....bah, heres just the tail end of what I was going to say.

Its just sad that a employer wouldnt hire someone because of something that stupid and potentially missing out on a good hire.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Where I work, the best employees carry tattoos all over their arms, neck, back and legs. They are also the coolest.

you can see them at work in a suit and tie, lookin snazzy with their hair pulled back into a pony tail, hanging down past their ass, then later on you might see em loaded with beer in the arms, wearing ripped up jeans, hair flying and a dozen roses for their lady.

people can still look professional with tattoos and peircings. sometimes all it takes is someone to look past the outer layer and into their resume.

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Bill is jealous and uncool. He should go back to reporting on celebrity gossip.

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it really does depend on the position, though. if you're qualified to work in the back, away from customers, with little to no social interaction with people outside the company, then tattoos and piercings shouldnt play a role. but you can't expect to hire you--even if you're totally qualified--to work in the public eye with body mods.

i'm not against tattoos, i'm not against piercings, but i'm against legislations that would say that employers have to disregard tattoos and piercings during the highering process.

bill oreilly does have some good points, though. one of the only things i agree with him is school uniforms.

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i dont think he's worried about his social status (well, not that worried, anyways). I don't think he'd be on a crusade to be cool. i'm also pretty sure that he's not at all jealous of your tattoos and piercings. the man might be an asshole, and he might be an egomaniac, but he stands up for what he believes in and he does what he does (i believe) with the idea of a better country for all of us. With that said, i think that his beliefs are misguided and his hardon for the Clinton's and his whoring of the products on his website sure have put a cloud over his head. at least in my eyes.

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someone once told me "i cant believe people take that former tabloid news reporter seriously"
i said "former?"
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The most profitably industry is real estate, owning it and selling it, (in my opinion) and in that case, it doesn't really matter how you dress or what you have etched onto your skin.

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I'm presently working with a realtor to help me find a house. I wouldn't deal with some goof with a face tattoo. It's too important of a decision to leave to someone who obviously made a really bad decision in their life.

But there are other jobs a tattood goofball could make lotsa dough at; like commercial airline pilot.

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The problem with B.O'R is really just that he's too busy being a blowhard about everything. Sure, if you want to get some jobs you need to "look the part." But he doesn't realize that as more and more of these young tattooed freaks enter the workplace, the people hiring him get younger too. He'd cry if you told him, but Bill O'Reilly is AGING and his views on the world aren't necessarily what's true for everyone, or even what's true for "most people" for that matter.
I want to go into education. I know that to be a teacher I should probably not fork my tongue and tattoo "FUCK YOU" across my forehead. But that's not going to stop me from getting a tattoo of some kind. Sure, it'll probably be something that is easily hidden. Likely something that I'd have to consciously SHOW to people rather than concsiously HIDE from people. But I'm still getting one.
The problem is that B.O'R thinks very narrowly. All tattoos are evil to him, not just the visible ones.
It's a load of shit, and the best thing to do with him is to hope he just goes away half as quickly as he rose to "power."

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anybody see his show that time they had those two rappers on discussing how rap music is bad for kids? I've never seen him so timid. He was totally scared shitless by these two guys.

Funniest fucking thing I've seen in awhile.

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doesn't he have some kind of longstanding fued with ludacris or something, too?

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Bill is afraid of a lot of people. Take a look at the following transcript from yesterday's show with Susan Estrich. This is in regards to the "I had an abortion" t-shirts which Planned Parenthood is selling in honor of a political activist / artist who is trying to get the word out regarding reproductive rights.

SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:48)

July 28, 2004 Wednesday
HEADLINE: Back of the Book
BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly, Susan Estrich

O'REILLY: In the BACK OF THE BOOK segment tonight, as we have been reporting, certain groups like the ACLU and Planned Parenthood have become very radicalized, and it's disturbing to me at least. Take a look at this t-shirt that Planned Parenthood is selling on the Internet here in Boston and across the country. And is this not the most offensive thing you've ever seen? Can you imagine any responsible woman wearing that kind of a t- shirt? I mean, what is going on here?

With us now is Fox News political analyst and longtime Democrat Susan Estrich. You know, I saw this story and it's just a little story. It's little. It's not a big policy story. But I just -- I said, "What's next?" You know, if you've got to sell a shirt that says, "I had an abortion," it's just so disturbing to me.

SUSAN ESTRICH, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: I don't know why you're so disturbed, Bill. I mean, the truth of the matter is 1 out of 3 women in America by the age of 45 has an abortion. Now, it's nothing to be proud of, and it's nothing to celebrate, and that's not the point of the t-shirt. The point of the t-shirt is that women from every walk of life, of every age, of every race, of every income know the pain and the suffering of an unwanted pregnancy.

Bill, if you go about a mile from here, you'll find a parking lot where, 30 years ago, a little kid named Susan Estrich called her daddy because she'd been raped, and there are lots of rape victims. And I've been talking about it for 30 years, because lots of women know that pain. And I can't believe that you wouldn't agree that any woman who went through the pain I went through has a right to an abortion.

O'REILLY: It's not a matter of having a right to an abortion. That's not what the issue is.

ESTRICH: But if I put on a t-shirt like that...

O'REILLY: Right, right.

ESTRICH: ... and say, "I had an abortion," because to be honest, Bill, I did. I went through five pregnancies to have two children I love more than life. And I don't know about you and your wife, but I was so desperate to have children, and it wasn't that easy for me. And I know the pain of receiving a call telling me that a baby I so much wanted had a condition inconsistent with life, and I had to make that choice, because if I didn't, I might have lost my ability to have a healthy child.

And if I say that, other women know that I've gone through that pain, and maybe that will help another woman understand.

O'REILLY: But that's not the issue here.

ESTRICH: Well, it is the issue.

O'REILLY: If everybody spoke as eloquently and emotionally as...

ESTRICH: But it is the issue, Bill.

O'REILLY: No, it's not, not on the t-shirt.

ESTRICH: Well, I've been on the board of Planned Parenthood, with all due respect, Bill O'Reilly, for 16 years in Southern California, and I got in touch with them today about this t-shirt.

O'REILLY: Right.

ESTRICH: And I said, "I'm coming on your show, and I want to understand what this is about." And the information I got said nobody's going to be forced to wear this t-shirt. This is the effort of one woman in New York, a 33-year-old to say if some of us are willing to share our experience, maybe it will help other women who have to go into these clinics, oftentimes alone, oftentimes scared, maybe it will help the next woman who gets a call like I got on the phone from a doctor saying, "I'm sorry, Susan, but the news is bad." I mean, I remember that like yesterday.

O'REILLY: All right, but all of that is in context because of your investigation, because of what you did and the access that you have.

ESTRICH: Absolutely.

O'REILLY: This shirt isn't. And I'll tell you what...

(CROSSTALK)

.... I listened to you, you're going to listen to me, and I'll give you the last word, OK?

ESTRICH: Absolutely, absolutely, with respect.

O'REILLY: Abortion is a human rights issue as well as a reproductive rights issue. And if you have a shirt that simply says, "I had an abortion," and you're strutting around with it...

ESTRICH: Nobody struts, Bill. Nobody struts.

O'REILLY: Yes, they do.

ESTRICH: We walk with pain. We walk with pain.

O'REILLY: You do, but there are people who strut.

ESTRICH: Not in Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood has done more than any organization to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

O'REILLY: You're going to listen to me... listen to me. That can be interpreted by somebody who doesn't believe the way that you do, and whose beliefs must be respected, that can be interpreted as, "I had an abortion, and I don't care who knows it." You know, if you want to bring the issue as eloquently as you did, I applaud and respect you. This shirt is cheap. It cheapens all the people who have gone through what you've gone through. And I'd be angry about it if I were you. I'll give you the last word.

ESTRICH: I am not angry. I am proud of Planned Parenthood and what we have done, because no organization has done as much as we have to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and that's the bottom line, Bill -- prevent unwanted pregnancies and make abortion rare.

O'REILLY: I think they should rethink this. And we appreciate you coming on and being so honest with us.

ESTRICH: I'm glad to be on. I'm glad to be on. And I hope other women listening will learn from the experience and not suffer from it.

O'REILLY: OK. Next, we'll wrap things up with the MOST RIDICULOUS ITEM and some of your mail.

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At my school the dress code's gone the way of extinction, several teachers have tattoos, and the Dean of Students has an earring. So I have to tell O'Reilly that some more traditional workplaces are now softening the stance, and having a tattoo might not be the death sentence for a "respectable" career.

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Someday, our kids will go to school naked.

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Just because a prejudice exists, does that mean we should feed it. I get tired of people saying: well, you need to conform, because they won't hire you with tattoos. Well, half of the teenagers in the US have tattoos. It is a prejudice. So, instead of trying to fight against it like we do other prejudices, we accept it and say - meh - your own fault for getting one. Meh? Heaven forbid you should try to express anything or pretty things up.

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[QUOTE=SkidMarxist]I'm presently working with a realtor to help me find a house. I wouldn't deal with some goof with a face tattoo. It's too important of a decision to leave to someone who obviously made a really bad decision in their life.

But there are other jobs a tattood goofball could make lotsa dough at; like commercial airline pilot.[/QUOTE]
That was a pretty assnine comment...

Who are you to judge whats a right and wrong decision in someone elses life? Surprise

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[QUOTE=SkidMarxist]Someday, our kids will go to school naked.[/QUOTE]
I'll re-enter college when that happens. Go for a triple major doctorate.

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i wanna sample some of asshole mcrepressive
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[QUOTE=Masochism]That was a pretty assnine comment...

Who are you to judge whats a right and wrong decision in someone elses life? :o[/QUOTE]

I will base my judgement on the large number people I know who got tattoos in college and are now having them removed, or wishing they had not got them.