Abortion Good or Bad
Abortion is a big issues among Anericans. I personally believe anyone between the ages 12-18 who gets pregnant must leave the option up to their parents. Everyone else older than 18 has the option until 3 months into the labor. The people shouldn't be blinded by the belief of the Church or the belief that killing the fetus is murder. It isn't murder it is a life choice. What do you think?
thesystemwillliveon
THREE MONTHS INTO LABOR?! How big are the chirrens in your country?!
The Labour!
I think only women should have a voice on the legality or morality of abortions.
I believe abortion should be legal up to the age of 7. Around the age of 7 the mind becomes truly self-aware. Which is what technically constitutes a human being. So killing anything before then is fare game. I wrote a paper about this last semester.
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
douche
woah srry big writing mistake, i meant into the pregnancy.
thesystemwillliveon
so go live among them. What's stopping you?
dude just speaking my mind, got nothing better to do so might aswell waste my First Amendment rights
thesystemwillliveon
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
let the ppl run amok and live with animals
thesystemwillliveon
we already do both of those.
eh. still should a bit more. like stop the control from the government. life would be somewhat easier without so much technoogy. i blame columbus for this
thesystemwillliveon
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
douche
actually, life would pretty much suck incredibly without technology. Have you ever tried to raise a garden or kill a rabbit and eat it over an open pit fire? It's filthy and disgusting.
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
hahahahah! You said doo doo!
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
hahahahah! You said doo doo!
Haha I actually giggled like a little girl when I was writing that, I tried to avoid it for .032 seconds but then decided against.
douche
well dude the ancient people did it, yes they didnt live to long but still life was sorta better. if u could take away some things and bring back older things it woud be better. obviously we need medicince and refigeration but no need for so much communication. leads to invasion of privacy and defiling the fourth amendment
thesystemwillliveon
well, it's pretty easy to avoid all the communication stuff. Just don't use it. Just because the internet exists doesn't mean you must be on it.
The past is a lot like Florida. It looks pretty in photographs and I wouldn't mind visiting it for a month or two but no way in hell i'd want to live there.
thats funny, well no i dont mean the using part. its fun but really only a source of entertainment. still thats just my view on shit. wait random question how did they smoke the cannabis plant? cause if their wasnt much usage of marijuana in the olden days no point then
thesystemwillliveon
How, exactly? Please cite.
This is why we can't have nice things.
I just said how awful it was back then. They were probably trying to smoke anything and everything to get away from their shitty lives until they stumbled upon weed.
How, exactly? Please cite.
smallpox keepin' everyone in check, yo!
exactly and then we had the columbian trade, the encomienda, people like Martin Luther ,John Calvin and all the other nonsense that was going on
thesystemwillliveon
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
Looks like you're working on an old model. Maybe Piagetian?
A lot of recent research shows that infants are much more aware of themselves and the world than theorists originally thought. So, um, make some research. Maybe outside wikipedia. Or don't assume your introductory psychology class gave you all the answers.
You know, you're quite a snarky kid and almost wholly unpleasant.
What the fuck are you talking about?
And cannabis has been used for a very very very fucking long time. You know, you don't need a lighter to start a fire. You can also eat cannabis. Most drugs have been used for at least a few centuries, and some have been used for thousands of years. Drug use even predates written history. How about that!
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
Looks like you're working on an old model. Maybe Piagetian?
A lot of recent research shows that infants are much more aware of themselves and the world than theorists originally thought. So, um, make some research. Maybe outside wikipedia. Or don't assume your introductory psychology class gave you all the answers.
You know, you're quite a snarky kid and almost wholly unpleasant.
Am I reading this right?
He's saying an abortion is cool up until the age of 7?
Isn't that a murder?
drugs rule and exactly why im speaking so much incoherant nonsense. dont question my random remarks. i have nothing better to do so i come here waste my time and see who else will join. im seeking knowledge so might as well argue and be a complete moron until someone answers my questions
thesystemwillliveon
well no cause what he says up to the age of 7 the child is technically human
thesystemwillliveon
not murder because murder doesnt imply animals and "lesser beings"
thesystemwillliveon
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
Looks like you're working on an old model. Maybe Piagetian?
A lot of recent research shows that infants are much more aware of themselves and the world than theorists originally thought. So, um, make some research. Maybe outside wikipedia. Or don't assume your introductory psychology class gave you all the answers.
You know, you're quite a snarky kid and almost wholly unpleasant.
Am I reading this right?
He's saying an abortion is cool up until the age of 7?
Isn't that a murder?
Not by his definition. If he had some proper research backing these ideas, it'd be a good argument, too.
In a similar vein, there's some guy [can't remember his name for the life of me at the minute] arguing that abortion should be legal up until the age of three for the exact same reason as spacemonkeyguy states.
A pretty sound argument by my thinking. Wholly implausible, but the logic is there and the argument fits. Part of it is to be outrageous, i reckon. He must know this will never happen, but he's basically taking the opposite extreme of anti-abortionists.
Still, i honestly think that unless you're a woman, you have no say in abortion issues.
Socrates would not be proud of you.
Still, i honestly think that unless you're a woman, you have no say in abortion issues.
I agree with this.
Seriously though, I think it's only a matter of time before a procreation registration act kicks in. There are A LOT of Duu-u-u-u-u-u-umb fuckin' people out there making babies and we've only got so much leasing space and resources left. If you have to get a license to drive and hunt and fish, etc., then logic follows this is a possibility.
Y'know...um...if we ignore that fact that it's a blatant infringement of our rights.
I did not say the above statement.
[EDIT] the formatting of this thread is all screwy louie now.
It's God's way of telling us not to kill the unborn!
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
Looks like you're working on an old model. Maybe Piagetian?
A lot of recent research shows that infants are much more aware of themselves and the world than theorists originally thought. So, um, make some research. Maybe outside wikipedia. Or don't assume your introductory psychology class gave you all the answers.
You know, you're quite a snarky kid and almost wholly unpleasant.
As for my "introductory psychology classes", I have taken no such thing. As for getting information from Wikipedia, again, didn't happen. Old model? I don't care what "recent research" shows. My argument is my argument based on a theory no matter how old.
But feel free to dress up your speech and name drop a philosopher or two in order to make your presence known, so as to feel important to a bunch of screen names who, for all intensive purposes, do not exist.
douche
But then again I hate all humans no matter what, I'd rather live among the animals. They make more sense.
Self awareness happens way before seven years old. You should make some research.
Actually I do do research. And between the ages of 2-6 a child is self-ware to the point of facial recognition via mirror, descriptions of ones actions and reward/punishment based consequences. By age 7 (assuming no mental abnormalities)a child is aware of himself in comparison of his social surroundings and the reflection of his/her thoughts as perceived by others and how this affects his/her thoughts. Hence the "TRULY self aware".
Nice try though.
Looks like you're working on an old model. Maybe Piagetian?
A lot of recent research shows that infants are much more aware of themselves and the world than theorists originally thought. So, um, make some research. Maybe outside wikipedia. Or don't assume your introductory psychology class gave you all the answers.
You know, you're quite a snarky kid and almost wholly unpleasant.
As for my "introductory psychology classes", I have taken no such thing. As for getting information from Wikipedia, again, didn't happen. Old model? I don't care what "recent research" shows. My argument is my argument based on a theory no matter how old.
But feel free to dress up your speech and name drop a philosopher or two in order to make your presence known, so as to feel important to a bunch of screen names who, for all intensive purposes, do not exist.
If your ideas stem from a theory that's proven to be wrong, than it's as good as worthless. To ignore research that gives answers to the question you're trying to answer is just pure idiocy.
I don't understand why you always feel it necessary to respond to people like an asshole.
Maybe you should so some research so as to prove how I respond to people like an asshole, because I don't believe I do.
douche
Not only is this a rude cop out of a discussion, but it's also stupid.
Guys!! Guys!!
Look...okay...I'm not one to use intimacy as a tool or anything...but can't we just fix this with sex?
Abortion is a bad bad thing. It is never good. Every woman weighs the decision carefully. And sometimes, it is the right decision.
HOW MANY REEFERS HAVE YOU SMOKED TODAY?
This is why we can't have nice things.
HOW MANY REEFERS HAVE YOU SMOKED TODAY?
Umm...umm...I don't know?
You don't have to have an abortion if you don't want to.
Someone should write a book about people using all the poor lower class babies for food and solving world hunger.
I would but i'm too busy getting ready to smoke a joint.
If Dr. Tiller were still alive, he'd terminate this thread, late-term styley...
instead HE got aborted late-term stylee!
Way to terminate my joke, assholeface!
