Abortion banned in lifeless wasteland

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TheJudasCow
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let me say- abortions of retards should not be illegal
but abortions based on the mother being.... put out or ashamed should be.

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Fuck no, we've got too many people around as it is and too many children are being born into families that won't love them or aren't able to give them a decent standard of living.

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yeah
so if we abort the retards, only healthy normal people will be on the planet and only they will have children.... isnt that how it works?

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[QUOTE=TheJudasCow]let me say- abortions of retards should not be illegal
but abortions based on the mother being.... put out or ashamed should be.[/QUOTE]

Isn't aborting a retard just the woman being "put out" not wanting to raise a special needs child?

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What's so great about healthy normal people? Most of them are fucked up, stupid or just plain arseholes and being born into a family (or to a mother) that never actually wanted it isn't going to help.

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no- its making survival of the fittest the mother choice
theyd die anyway, right?
and i mean, who cares? theyre retards.

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This is just sickening and makes the Cult look even worse than it already is.

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[QUOTE=TheJudasCow]no- its making survival of the fittest the mother choice
theyd die anyway, right?
and i mean, who cares? theyre retards.[/QUOTE]

I'm guessing you don't really believe this but are trying to make some kind of point?

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What's the argument here anyway?

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[QUOTE=Vendetta]What's the argument here anyway?[/QUOTE]

If there really is a [I]South [/I]Dakota and if so, are there more than 19 residents!

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Well, with abortion banned the population is set to skyrocket to perhaps the mid tens!

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[QUOTE=mirka]If there really is a [I]South [/I]Dakota and if so, are there more than 19 residents![/QUOTE]
I just checked the map at the front of my American History Tome, and there [I]is[/I] a South Dakota on the map :eek:!!

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[QUOTE=Riddlegimp]Well, with abortion banned the population is set to skyrocket to perhaps the mid tens![/QUOTE]

True. It's making sense now why they wouldn't allow abortions in the case of incest..

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[QUOTE=SnowWhite]This is just sickening and makes the Cult look even worse than it already is.[/QUOTE]
exactly how "Worse" is The Cult already ?

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[QUOTE=Riddlegimp]I'm guessing you don't really believe this but are trying to make some kind of point?[/QUOTE]
correct.

everyone deserves to live- be they black white retarded or the product of hate- be they too little to breathe on their own yet or an accident- believe what you want about abortion- the "mass of cells" is just that- a mass of cells- bloody tissue- religious or not... murder is wrong and i think abortion is murder. no matter how tiny- they are a life- they have the ability to become a life.sure they may turn out psychopaths or rapists... but you didnt kill it.

i was 19- my mother was(is) a fucking nazi (i mean that pretty spot on literally) she worked me to the bone till i was eight and a half months pregnant (after that i was too big to move) my family called me a whore, my child an abomination- a bastard- my mother took the money from the adoption and kicked me out of the house, tried to have me arrested, disowned me, ran my childs father out of the state and although she knows the family that has my son, refuses to give me any word on him

abortion was a very viable option. but i would rather be miserable and alone- without my mother or my son or the respect of my family than have killed my child.

dont tell me that its hard to get black or hispanic children adopted- [U]someone[/U] will love them
and dont tell me that a mother is in fear for her life from her husband- because i know what fear is.
and dont tell me to do something to get young mothers treated better

fuck the mothers
save a life

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That's just a metaphysical reason, it's not enough to agree with banning abortion. It might as well be a religious reason.

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is murder wrong because you go to hell, or because its not right?

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its my body and if your a kid get off it

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I'm saying that it's a metaphysical reason because you're saying that a mass of cells or a foetus is already 'a life', but there's nothing to identify it as 'a life'. Even if it was a life, does that mean that it's wrong to end it? I mean, just because it's a life doesn't mean that it has the same value as a human life.

The fact that you consider it a life and you give it the same value as a 'born human' is not enough to say that it should be banned, the same logic could be used by vegetarians to ban eating meat.

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[QUOTE=sparq-l]The most important point here is that the taking of another's life with out their consent is illegal. Call it murder or an abortion, they are essentially the same thing. If people want abortion to be legal, you have to essentially say that a fetus isn't a life, which IMO is a pretty big statement.[/QUOTE]

but at the same time the fetus is inside another person's body, and in many cases, especially health cases, that person comes first.

and second that "life" shouldn't give the courts the right to decide for anothe person. Especially if it's a weeks old fertilized egg, and if it's a rape or whatever case.

I mean seriously if courts want to preserve those lives, which to me that is not what it is about, they should start a surrogate mother program or something. Where mothers who are willing to carry fertilized eggs sign up and get those unwanted "lives". If the mothers chose to.

To me this is all about a mother's right. You can disagree with abortion all you want, no one is forcing you to have one. However when you take away someone's right to decide by using a idealistic measure, that is wrong.

Also doctors decide who lives and dies in many cases. It is without people's consent or choice at many times.

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Here is an update:
S.D. Governor Signs Abortion Ban Into Law
AP - Mon Mar 6, 6:34 PM ET
PIERRE, S.D. - Gov. Mike Rounds signed legislation Monday banning nearly all abortions in South Dakota, setting up a court fight aimed at challenging the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion. The bill would make it a crime for doctors to perform an abortion unless the procedure was necessary to save the woman's life. It would make no exception for cases of rape or incest.
This is so wrong. Why should the governor get to decide for a woman whether or not she keeps her child? And to make no exceptions for rape or incest. That is just horrible. Why should he have the power to say that any woman raped and impregnated has to keep that child? Hasn't she suffered enough? Not only was she raped but now she has to be reminded of what happened all throughout those nine months of pregnancy and for the rest of her life. It should be a woman's choice and if a woman doesn't want one, she should just not have one.

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why should you get to decide what the govenor of South Dakota should decide?

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duh
shes god
hello?

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because its the women who are the ones who are pregnant. i'm not trying to decide what the governor of South Dakota should decide. i'm just saying it should be the women's decision since its happening to their bodies and they're the ones who are going to be carrying the bodies and caring for the child. why should the governor get to control the fates of these women based on his belief of when life begins?

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did you know that included in the states with the LOWEST number of abortions per year is South Dakota?

The highest is New York....

another thing to take into account, is the prevailing religion of SD is Christian... Christians are pro life...

and its not like the chick cant go into NORTH Dakota and kill her baby... its right around the corner, anyway.

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one more thing, maybe its completely different, maybe not

[URL=http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/]Catholic Town[/URL]
Jew hear about this one?

ive got a whole other rant about this

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