Collecting Chuck

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wickerkat
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Hey guys,

Just wondering what your thoughts are on collecting CP. If you don't collect, and think all of this stuff is stupid, then just find another thread to hijack. I used to collect Stephen King, my books are worth $10,000+, but am selling that off. I do collect CP, CC and WCB, and have 1sts of most of them, signed of most of them, and am working on the short stories right now. With the signing next week, here are my questions:

1. What do you think is the most valuable Chuck signed item? First edition of Fight Club?

2. What are you taking Chuck to get signed?

3. Do you think having a book signed to you (ie, Richard) as opposed to just signed is more or less valuable? He tends to write/stamp more when you get it personalized.

4. Here's what I could possibly get signed, what would you take? (asterisk is what I'm thinking of taking):

1st UK Rant*
UK Rant proof
1st UK paperbacks of Diary, Survivor, Lullaby, Non-Fiction (Haunted is first UK HC)
Playboys with short fiction excerpts from novels
Playboy with short fiction of "Guts" 1st published*
3 copies of Vice Magazine with short fiction of "Mr. Elegant" 1st published*
Pursuit of Happiness, first excerpt from Fight Club*
Monica Drake's book "Clown Girl"*

Any other thoughts?

Peace,
Richard

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it depends on how you classify "collection" but yeah I keep a copy of all his books in hardback and paperback and I got the two playboy issues (Guts&Punch Drunk) but I don't think I could bring myself to pay some premium price for any of his stuff.

a first printing of Fight Club you'd think would be the most valuable, but that also the one [i]Everyone[/i] gets autographed. I'd think something like a first print of IM would be more rare.
I also wish they'd hurry the hell up and come out with a hardback of that for my collection too! it throws off my lineup with an extra paperback book!!

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also, I don't know if i'd take Clown Girl for Chuck to sign. Yeah, he wrote the foreword but it just seems in bad form to have someone else autograph another's book

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[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;970122]also, I don't know if i'd take Clown Girl for Chuck to sign. Yeah, he wrote the foreword but it just seems in bad form to have someone else autograph another's book[/QUOTE]

i'm gonna disagree with you on this one - i know he's friends with her, and he wrote the introduction, so it is totally fine, if anything i think he'll be excited, since he may not have signed one yet - plus it opens the door for me to say i've been chatting with monica, and taking an intensive with clevenger, which will lead to discussing the possible writer's retreat (i'm offering to join/help/work with him) and my own collective i'm trying to start here in chicago

an example - i collect stephen king, and on some books he's written the introduction to (such as "the house next door" by anne rivers siddons, he signed many of them, and there are lots of other examples

not to mention that this book would be rather rare then, since there probably won't be a lot of them around, not that i plan on parting with it

if i had an anthology, and it was signed by every writer, that'd be worth more the unsigned, although that IS a little different

oh, i ALSO have a hardcover of Fight Club in Russian, i wonder if he's seen that one

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me personally, I'd have to get the book autogrpahed by her first and then I could see getting Chuck to sign it. That would be a pretty interesting piece to have on the shelf.

I forget where I had read it maybe it was Chuck or someone else, but people had been bringing them Bibles to autogrpah and they finally said they'd stop signing other people work because of it

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i was just going to post and clarify that i DID have monica sign it already so that makes a difference i guess

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having a Chuck Palahniuk autographed Bible would be pretty damn cool though

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true dat - it'd be funny if he quoted it, the dirty and violent parts

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wouldn't a personalized autograph pretty much make the book worthless?
unless whoever's buying had the same name though
I never did understand people buying autographed stuff

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well, anything autographed is going to be worth more then an unautographed book, even if it says - richard, all the best, chuck palahniuk

there are two theories:

1. flatsigned are worth more, since any person can now own it, and either just dig it, or claim to have gotten it, etc. make up their own tale

2. that personal message from an author to anybody is still interesting, and still signed - for example, chuck signing a book to another known person (be it george bush, craig clevenger, or sammy sosa) is interesting seeing what two "celebrities" say to each other - but signed to a non-celebrity is less so - also, if your name HAPPENS to be richard, you might like to have it, since it is the next best thing to haven gotten it inscribed to you personally

with chuck though i think it is a little different in that whenever he writes personalized autographs, he usually says more, and/or different things

examples: i had two books signed at st. helen's, of rant the "just signed' book was just signed, and had the rant stamp - the one signed to richard had an extra stamp and message - he likes to go that extra mile for his fans, SOOOOOOOOOOOOO long story short, if you are a collector, and you wanted to get these additional messages, you'd HAVE to collect the personalized ones

collectors are funny - depending on how hard core you are, and most CP fans aren't THAT hard core, you'd want all kinds of variations

for example: with stephen king, his book tommyknockers had two covers, one with red foil stamped and one with green, a "completist" would have to have both

with the rant thread over here

[url]http://chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=28476&highlight=chuck[/url]

you can see just how much it varies, a very unique thing

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I think I have everything signed. I got a huge shipment from Saint Helen's as a gift. I think the majority of them are personalized but a few were likely just pulled from their signed Chuck shelves. For my birthday, I ended up with 2 signed Rant copies - one personalized, one not.

I would really prefer to meet him in person and have him sign something but I'd have to dig up something more obscure.

Oh, and Clown Girl was sent to me too - signed by Monica but not by Chuck.

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[QUOTE=Synnove;970255]Oh, and Clown Girl was sent to me too - signed by Monica but not by Chuck.[/QUOTE]

did you talk to her to get her to sign? curious

she wasn't "officially" signing anything, so her signed copies i'd think are pretty few, and to get cp to sign them too, you'd have to get mon first, and then bring it to chuck in the past year - i'm sure it's been done already, but you never know - i'd have to say off the top of my head that i'd be surprised if there were more then a couple copies out there right now that had both of them, maybe in the 10s (ie, <100), but who knows, could be only a handful right now - over time i'm sure they'll be more

for me it will be cool simply because i've talked to monica a lot, and she is super cool, and meeting chuck last summer just solidified my opinion of how great he is as well

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Clown Girl was sent to me as a birthday gift with Rant. I didn't have any contact with St. Helen's - my father in-law talked with him because he knew I'd want the new book.

The copy of Clown Girl I have is personalized and signed just by Monica and dated. I wouldn't mind having Chuck sign it too. I haven't read it yet but St. Helen's really talked it up to my father in law so he picked it up for me too.

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First off, I'm skeptical that any Stephen King collection is worth thousands unless it includes something like the van that hit him, but aside from that...

Rarity is what makes a collectible valuable. The personal generosity and willingness to engage his fans ultimatley makes most Chuck collectibles questionable from a monetary standpoint. Like with baseball: the assheads who wouldn't stop for a kid even if the kid was dying of cancer and had been named after him, those are the autographs that are worth a ton. Because if a guy was such a dick he only signed five balls in his career, there aren't that many balls to go around.

I'd say Chuck, Sedaris, King, these are autographs that are commercially worthless. I have an autographed first edition Survivor, also the trade of Fight Club and so on. The stuff I got when I wrote him during the fan mail window, that's stuff I cherish. But a packet of geranium seeds autographed by chuck will never be rare because he puts out like that for everyone who writes in such a window.

But the shit Chuck sent me, I wouldn't part with it. Not because it's not worth much money, which it isn't, but because I have a personal connection with that crazy bastard on some level.

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I wish there was some sort of Chuck trading cards that we all could get and trade amongst each other
how cool would that be!

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I would say as far as Chuck collectibles, stuff like original Paper Street Soap bars from the premier of the FC film, that stuff is finite and thus likely to be worth something. See also bandaids....

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chix,

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as with anything collectible, it is only worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for - king is probably one of the most collectible writers out there, because he wrote so much, and doesn't sign ALL the time - i just sold about $3000 worth of my collection, so it sure is worth it to somebody - i bought a book for $75 and sold it for $400, those things are pretty common, especially when the quantity is limited

the $150 limited of rant, 1000 made, will probably go up in value over time, especially since it is his first - go ask the guys that spend $1000+ for a first edition of carrie what a book is worth - the whole idea is a little insane, but hey, whatever floats your boat right?

i didn't start collecting to make money, with king it was a love of his work, and over time it became a hobby, something i enjoyed doing - with cp it is different, as i've been able to meet him, and those personalized copies make me happy to look at, a memory of a point in time where i interacted with an author i respect a lot, whose work i enjoy

yes chuck does sign a lot of stuff, and therefore the value isn't as high on some things - just about anything signed by king will start at $100, whereas chuck is more like $50-75 for signed copies, and up

in the past two weeks on ebay alone signed copies of IM, Choke and Survivor sold for $75-100. in the past two weeks 226 king signed items closed (not all sold) with the highest being $1700 for salem's lot, $1600 for gunslinger, $850 for christine, etc. etc. - it is what it is - some people have nothing but time and money, for some it is an investment, for others still at hobby, addiction, and/or thrill ride

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I also wish they'd make one of those macfarlane movie maniac figures of tyler durden
have him come with rubber gloves, soap, bag of fat, the cool sunglasses etc

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With this thread title I was half expecting someone to get Chuck and through him in a black bag and then in the back of a van and keep him in a little cage with a type-writer and get him to write them little stories that they'd then keep for themselves and also make little wax models of him and make them do dirty things to each other.

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[QUOTE=corellion;970440]With this thread title I was half expecting someone to get Chuck and through him in a black bag and then in the back of a van and keep him in a little cage with a type-writer and get him to write them little stories that they'd then keep for themselves and also make little wax models of him and make them do dirty things to each other.[/QUOTE]

funny