Surrealists, obscurities and sick hipsters

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Hello all,

Been a Chuck fan since the first printing of Fight Club. I remember that old wonky Owl's Books edition with the paint splatter cover - got that as a gift in 1997. Funnily enough I didn't read Survivor. I wound up going for Lullaby next. And so on and so forth. It's been a delirious and unforgettable ride.

Aside from Chuck, the best books I've read in the last ten years would include (in no particular order): Flicker (reprint) by T. Roszak, Fish Boy by Mark Richard, Arkansas Adios! by Earl Mac Rauch (don't get me started), everything by Cormac McCarthy, Jakob von Gunten by Robert Walser, Parasites Like Us by Adam Johnson, Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass by Bruno Schulz, Dermaphoria by Craig Clevenger, Kiss Me, Judas by W. C. Baer, The Boats of Glen Carrig by William Hope Hodgson and the list goes on and on and on...

About me: I enjoy incredibly obscure new wave music (Iron Curtain anyone?), surrealist cinema, swimming, work (yes, honestly), talking about incredibly obscure new wave music and surrealist cinema, reading, remembering when I smoked and why I'm glad I've quit, watching clouds and writing.

As for the writing bit, my debut novel 6 Sick Hipsters will be at your local bookstore April 1st, 2008 (in the states) from Kensington Books. I call it a black comedy, my editor suggests Ellis flirting with Tarantino and I think Chuck's fans might get a kick out of it. You can read about the book here [URL=http://www.6sickhipsters.com]http://www.6sickhipsters.com[/URL].

Glad to be here -- been lurking for more years than I'd like to count -- and hope I can add to the conversation.

Rayo Casablanca

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Sick hipsters, eh? I think I'm one of those. My nose is all stuffy. Sad

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Hello.

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Hello and Welcome,
Im definitley going to check out your book.
Have a good look around.

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yep. hello dude.

I am super tired. Just ate lunch and i really want a nap.

and ohh man, it would be nice to be laying on the beach right now.

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Is your name really Rayo Casablanca? Because if so, I am arleady a fan.

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My brother has a(n?) one day layover in Casablanca while he's in Africa. My mom's all freaking out because I guess people get bombed a lot there.

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Thanks guys.

Jane S.: Sounds as though you'd fit right in. Though I might classify a stuffy nose as more "ailing" rather than full blown "sick." Ailing hipster has a nice ring to it. And yeah, I've heard there's some bad stuff going down in Morocco. No relation, however.

Xec8: What? You need convincing to be a fan?

Thag: Enjoy the nap. Cheers.

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[QUOTE=Rayo C.;968413]

Jane S.: Sounds as though you'd fit right in. Though I might classify a stuffy nose as more "ailing" rather than full blown "sick." Ailing hipster has a nice ring to it. And yeah, I've heard there's some bad stuff going down in Morocco. No relation, however.

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You're probably right. I'm not really a full blown hipster, to be perfectly honest. I'm too chubby and too blonde; all of the hipsters I know have 10% body fat and black blunt cuts. Plus, I think it's just allergies.

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I think I'd call them sicksters....but then again that sounds a bit like sick sisters so...

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Morey: I'll credit you with the brilliant title for the follow-up novel: 7 Sick Sisters. It can be like a combo of a Twisted Sister Behind the Music and that classy Brian De Palma flick. I can just see the marquee now...

Jane S.: Indeed 10% body fat is even pushing it a bit. You have to be able to have those super skinny jeans just barely hanging onto your hips.

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Hey dude! You seem really professional, and put together. Most of us on here are either always drunk or 16! I'm 16!

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I'm drunk!

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isn't any and all new wave music pretty obscure nowadays?

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Outside of department store elevators and mid-western Urban Outfitter shops? Yeah.

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Welcome to the cult. Also, if you send Dennis a copy of the book and he really likes it and we all get a kick out of it then it might be featured on the site. Don't quote me on that, but PM him to see if he's interested in reading a copy. Don't expect much though, he's a ruthless tyrant who'd happily see you cast into the flames of wherever, or something.

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I fucking hate hipsters.
Only because I am too poor to be one.
But the book sounds interesting, that's the whole reason I joined up here, (aside from the obvious reason of being a Chuck fan) to hear about new books.
I must read!

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Remigious: Then you'll like the book, a lot of hipsters get killed in it.

Is that why your eyeless (Oedpial?) avatar is crying?

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[QUOTE=Rayo C.;969000]
Is that why your eyeless (Oedpial?) avatar is crying?[/QUOTE]

I just thought it was cute. It has eyes, but they're all watery and distorted by sorrow.

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It is cute. It's like a sad, sad Pokemon with cataracts.

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Welcome. I was a long term lurker also. There are benefits to de-cloaking though - hopefully you are reaping them now.

Enjoy your time here.

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[QUOTE=Synnove;969336]Welcome. I was a long term lurker also. There are benefits to de-cloaking though - hopefully you are reaping them now.

Enjoy your time here.[/QUOTE]
So were you already familiar with our personalities before you started joining our conversations?

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I wasn't a consistent enough lurker.

Right before I started posting ,but had been a member for months, there was a terrible exchange on one of the threads and I remember how horrible and nice people were during the upheaval. It was scary and fascinating.

For some reason, after that I decided I could start posting here.

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what exchange? when i got here there was one every day, we blocked each other, no one could get away with anything, i got multi banned! It was a party every second.

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I think it was in the photo thread - someone posted and there was a lot of speculation as to the gender of the person and they never solidly committed to a sex. It was kind of weird and uncomfortable.

It is kind of amazing people lurk here and then decide to join in the fun!

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Was it that Tortilla Factory thing? It seems like you've been posting longer than that.

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That sounds right. I didn't start posting until after the first of the year - can't remember when.

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[QUOTE=morey;969353]what exchange? when i got here there was one every day, we blocked each other, no one could get away with anything, i got multi banned! It was a party every second.[/QUOTE]

it sucks being one of those people that goes "Those were the days!" and those days only being 4 years ago

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I hate missing the heyday.

So, Rayo - official definition - do hipsters have to be in their late teens to mid 20s?

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[QUOTE=Synnove;969405]I hate missing the heyday.

So, Rayo - official definition - do hipsters have to be in their late teens to mid 20s?[/QUOTE]I'd think the opposite.

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Synnove: Nah, don't have to be. A lot are. Most of my friends that I consider hipsters are late-20s early 30s. The thing is, no true hipster will refer to him or herself as a hipster. It's a "label." (How very postmodern.) Actually, Williamsburg, Brooklyn - the hipster capital - is now being called "babyburg." Most of the hipsters that made it famous (or infamous as it were) are in their mid-30s now and have kids. Kids with mohawks in black t-shirts adorned with skulls, but kids none-the-less.

It's amazing how sub-cultures move - trickle down - into the general culture. I see kids in the suburbs all the time wearing skinny girl jeans and Echo & the Bunnymen hairdos. They sure look like hipsters. I don't know if they collect vinyl, smoke cloves and read Camus, though.

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I can deal with Mohawks, skulls, pink hair, whatever - I draw the line at skinny girl jeans. I think it is just way too much.

There is a move where it looks like there are two factions of hipsters - the new crew coming up and the aging hipster. I see it all over Houston.

Perhaps we can gather them for a street war with only their wiles and natural resources as weapons. "Ow - that latte burns!!!"

"We duel tomorrow with matched copies of Ayn Rand - 10,0000 pages at dawn!"

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Fantastic idea. I'm a sucker for street wars though it would a weak battle as you've illustrated. It'd be like that rumble in Anchor Man, just that everyone involved would be like the public television station crew.

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[QUOTE=Rayo C.;969510]. The thing is, no true hipster will refer to him or herself as a hipster. It's a "label." [/QUOTE]
I think it kind of depends on where you are. The portland hipsters love to call themselves hipsters, like wearing that kind of label like a badge makes them even cooler.

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Interesting. I'm not as familiar with the North West scene, though I've heard Portland has a thriving hispter thing going.

When I was in high school in the mid-90s we called ourselves wavers. I don't remember anyone else calling us wavers or even if that was [I]accepted[/I] h.s. terminology (along the lines of jocks, stoners, etc.) but we liked having the label. We wanted to distinguish ourselves from the punks and skins. Maybe the Portland hipsters are doing the same thing.

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so hipster has a modern meaning? I think of hipster as a retro thing but its sounding like its now a catch-all for anyone trendy? A girl who was trying to invite me to an event referred to me as a hipster which i denied on principal cause of that whole label thing you mention.

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I wish there was a Jazz subculture where we could all hang out and discuss Tolstoy with cigarettes and black coffee.

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thats what i think a hipster is, [I]what he said^[/I]

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[b][size=2]i dont get it.
am i the only one who cannot get the provided link to work ?[/size][/b]

I wanna view info on this book and i can't. the blood clot..

hey, rayo. welcome to the cult, brother.
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Morey: I think the trendy thing is common. It all depends on who's saying it. Wikipedia has a pretty good definition of what a modern hipster is: [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%28contemporary_subculture%29]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%28contemporary_subculture%29[/URL]

JKabol: Thanks, happy to be here.

I don't know why the link isn't working for you. Let me paste it again [URL=http://www.6sickhipsters.com]http://www.6sickhipsters.com[/URL]. It's not much, just something I tossed up there a few months back. The cover should be done in the next month or two. I'm waiting for a few blurbs to come in and then I'll redo the site.

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am I the only cultist that cant view this web page ?

im gonna try resetting my computer--maybe i just have something running behind the scenes that causes confliction..

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When I think about it, I may have been a hipster in my youth. Coffee drinking, clove smoking, thrift store shopping kid spending hours at the coffee house discussing music and literature.

So young, so misdirected.

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okay so a hipster is another word for poser, i got it.

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[QUOTE=JKabol;969757]am I the only cultist that cant view this web page ?

im gonna try resetting my computer--maybe i just have something running behind the scenes that causes confliction..[/QUOTE]i just get a black page but.....could be the computer, it makes noise.

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[QUOTE=morey;969762]okay so a hipster is another word for poser, i got it.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Morey. I know you still care for in spite of my wretched past.

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[QUOTE=Synnove;969765]Thank you, Morey. I know you still care for in spite of my wretched past.[/QUOTE]of course and besides i've learned your posts have a subtext but do tell were you actually reading in the coffee joint or was the book just in front of you. I lived in l.a. during the coffee house heyday, and i just knew these people that populated them were fake reading.

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I was actually reading. I went to the coffee shop a lot because I was always low on cash and was sometimes homeless as a teenager and they were always cool to me there.

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the ones in l.a. were all actors posing as interesting types in a central casting sort of way, i was at a place once when justine bateman got up and started emoting some poem, thats what i'm talking about man!

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Then I probably wasn't a hipster, just a kind of pathetic looking dork.

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