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Evil Boy
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Probably, hopefully, not the first one, but a Dutch member has registered to the forum! (Applause and general cheering…no?...oh.)

Haven’t had time to do all that avatar shit yet. I’m sure I’ll get around to that sometime this century. There is just too much to read up on right now.

Oh and don’t worry. I won’t be one of those one post wonders. I have yet to find a kindred spirit out here in Amsterdam. None of my friends have ever read anything by Chuck, despite me throwing his books in their faces (no really!). And I’m getting tired of having the same conversations. Every time explaining what is so good about his work. So basically (enter string quartet) I’m glad I found you (die away strings already).

Well, enough sucking up for one post. As one of you political leaders once said (or keeps saying): I’ll be back!

(Apologies about my grammar and spelling. As you should have gotten by now, I’m not exactly native.)

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hello

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Hey Y'all.
Have you mentioned to your friends that Chuck wrote Fight Club? That worked for me. Anywho welcome my Amsterdonian friend!

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lokigod
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roll a blunt one for me big boy
welcome to the cult

Evil Boy
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lokigod [/i]
[B]roll a blunt one for me big boy
welcome to the cult [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh, the stereotypes! Of course in this case they are true! Yes, we do have legal drugs. And yes prostitution is legal. Making the quality of both a lot better!

[commercial presentation]
Hey, what can I say? The system works. We don’t spend billions on the war on drugs (or prostitution). In fact we collect taxes from both dealers and prostitutes. And we have less addicts and juvenile abuse than most other western countries (including the US). And most importantly like I already mentioned: We have superior shit!
[/commercial presentation]

Anyway…glad to be part of the cult now. Still tons of posts to read through and news items and sound clips and…sigh…good thing no-one is looking over my shoulder at my internship. - I work for a nationwide television channel. Well, nationwide is not such a big things in a country you can drive through in 4 hours and has 15 million inhabitants…yes…most of which are stoned!!
:cool:

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Sjoerdie Q
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We Dutchies rule! Wink

So what television channel do you work for then?

lokigod
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Evil Boy [/i]
[B]Hey, what can I say? The system works. We don’t spend billions on the war on drugs (or prostitution). In fact we collect taxes from both dealers and prostitutes. And we have less addicts and juvenile abuse than most other western countries (including the US). And most importantly like I already mentioned: We have superior shit![/B][/QUOTE]

rub it in why don't you, prat
Wink

Lazlosdead
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Your prattle is worthless. Leave now while someone still repects you.

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Evil Boy
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I neither desire nor deserve any respect. Well, of course I do but I'm trying to spare your feelings.

I'm sure there are a lot of things you have that we don't...like...uhm...

Oh, like we don't get to see the Conan show when Chuck is on!

@Sjoerd: I work for de VPRO. Maar het is maar een stage...

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Another Dutchman! Greetings from the city of Breda, where we as of yet don't have a real fight club, because THAT was not the message.

En maar effe in het Nederlands lullen om het te bewijzen.

What kind of school you go to dude? What kind of internship you have at the Vee-Pee-Ar-Oh?

Oh yeah and what's your age?

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People flip out to fast here I gather.

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Where in Germany bist du katzereefer?

iza
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living in the dutch mountains... (maastricht)

Evil Boy
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Mr. Brown: I do Social Psychology at the University of Amsterdam as well as movie and televisions sciences. Yes my friends that IS a genuine study and yes it does include mostly sitting in a cinema watching movies both new and old.

My internship entails that I write for and co-manage the website [url]www.cinema.nl[/url] a site owned by both the VPRO and De Volkskrant. Any Dutch readers or people who like to look at pictures can check it out.

As to my age, I’m 25 and counting. Don’t know if it’s up or down though…

So far I’m still restricted to writing in just this section of the forum. But I’ll get there eventually…be afraid…you know the rest!

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Sjoerdie Q
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So, any dutchies interested in helping setting up a chuckpalahniuk.nl ?

iza
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hoi sjoerd. sounds interesting. what are your plans with the site? (what kind of help would you need)

Sjoerdie Q
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Well I've made a layout and Dennis has given me permission to use some of the content of cp.net

But we'll have to do something original of course so what I need are ideas.

This is what I've got so far:
[url]http://www.lemonshake.com/sjoerd/chuck/[/url]
[url]http://www.lemonshake.com/storyline/[/url] but then in Dutch
And I want some kind of content on Dutch writers, like Grunberg or Giphart, I think that will attract a lot more people.

iza
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hoi sjoerd.

think the site already looks great! (i am very curious about the latin text though: what is it? i have seen it more often in testpages).

what are your ideas about the goal/purpose of the site; who should visit it? highschool kids who want to find 'uittreksels' for their exams, literary scholars, fans of palahniuk and palahniuk-esque dutch authors, writers(to be) etc.

think it should be clear what the adventage of a dutch site should be. we can never make a better site than this one & all dutch read english.

k denk er nog wel ff over...

iza
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looked it up myself. it's a part from cicero's treatise on ethics, 45 bc. he and chuck don't seem to agree. if you take the first line for example and compare it to fight club:

Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit... = There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain...

Sjoerdie Q
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It's lorem ipsum, fill text, every HTML nerd uses it as fake text. You can check out the history at [url]www.lipsum.com[/url].

*dutch mode*
Ik wil het ook juist interessant maken voor Nederlanders door links te lagen naar nederlandse schrijvers en door dat nederlandse schrijfproject op te zetten. Ik denk dat als we een soort WW hebben in het nederlands dat dat iig al interessant is. Maar er moet meer komen, Mr. Brown was ook wel geinteresseerd om er eens over na te denken.

Daarbij is het natuurlijk ook de bedoeling Chuck naar de nederlandse mensen te brengen, want vergis je niet, er zijn echt maar heeeeeel weinig mensen die in staat zijn om een engels boek helemaal te begrijpen.

iza
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*dutch mode*

hoi sjoerd. dat schrijfproject (storyline) lijkt me erg leuk. net zoals een nederlandse versie van de writers workshop. zou zelf bijv best graag willen meedoen aan workshop op deze site, maar daarvoor is mn engels echt niet goed genoeg. ik weet alleen niet of opzetten workshop niet veel tijd gaat kosten, of de software niet te ingewikkeld is, of er al niet zoiets bestaat op andere nederlandse literaire sites, of we in begin wel genoeg mensen voor zullen kunnen vinden enz.

verder ben ik t met je eens dat er nog wel wat zendelingenwerk te verrichten is om nederland aan chuck te krijgen. z'n boeken zijn best moeilijk te krijgen en dat hangt waarschijnlijk aan feit dat hij hier nog erg onbekend is. wel grappig: precies in het weekend dat ik achter bestaan van chuck kwam, en fight club las, was die vpro docu en las ik jouw stukje op de ramsite. goed geschreven trouwens!

wil best meedenken. hoe zit t met andere dutchies op deze site zoals evil boy and firewoman?

Sjoerdie Q
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*dutch*

Daar heb ik nog geen contact mee gehad, van die hele firewoman heb ik zelfs nog nooit gehoord Shocked

En die software is geen probleem, ik ben zelf vormgever html-er enz. en ik ken zat mensen die zouden willen helpen.

Misschien is het wat als we msn dinkies uitwisselen: [email]sjoerdth@hotmail.com[/email]

iza
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* dutch*

[email]izanasr@hotmail.com[/email]. misschien idee om hen via deze site berichtje te sturen?

Sjoerdie Q
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So iza, when are you online, haven't seen you on msn since you gave your 'msn address'.

iza
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busy protesting against colin powell among others

Evil Boy
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Sorry for not responding for a while. I assumed the tread was dead. I'd really like to help. Eventhough I don't know too much about building sites. I can at least help with contend.

Here's my msn. But I'm rarely on-line, since we can't install messenger at the VPRO. [email]meelvoorjasper@hotmail.com[/email]

Does anybody know anything about Dutch translations of Chucks books? Don't even know if there are any.

Anyway, you have my sword! Well my pen....mightier anyway.

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Evil Boy
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@feedmeacat: So, does that make you German or American. If you run into a guy called John Kendall in Baghdad say hi to him from me, Jasper.

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iza
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i just read the dutch translation of fight club. it's called 'de vechtclub' and it has been translated by graa boomsma. i think it's a lousy translation; it completely ruined palahniuk's tone of voice & instead became weak and archaic. choke is translated as well: 'stikken' by irma van dam (de geus, 2003). i haven't read it.

Evil Boy
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Maybe we could do something with that. You know write reviews on the translations. Or maybe make our own...Wink

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heya -

I think a dutch translation is pointless since it's carefully chosen words we're talking about here. Kinda ruins the prose to have it translated.

Anyways, always interested in helping people, only I dunno in what fashion for the .nl site.

Btw Evil Boy, got friends at the VPRO huh? Good gid. :0

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wow....while browsing the "New Members Post Here" section, I seem to have stepped into a somewhat developed thread that I am not geographically suited for, so - I'm just gonna say hello and bow out graciously - g'Day!

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Ok, I'll try to work out somekinda plan if I've got the time (busy busy busy). Also, if you Dutch people know people who are also interested in books (not Palahniuk per se) they can join to.

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evil boy, why don't you get out of here and join the fun? Take a risk.

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I've been out of here for a while...meaning I haven't checked in for a long time.

And I've also been going out of here for a while...meaning I've been around The Cult. Not ebough though, not enough. I bow my head in shame and now finally have a new years resolution!

See you around...

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Ha Evil Boy... gast, fijn om meer nederlanders hier te mogen begroeten, have fun

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Dankje, jij ook. Allemaal veel plezier vanavond en zorg dat we morgen nog met net zoveel vingers berichtjes kunnen typen...

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Allemachtig, denk je dat je de enige nederlander bent hier...

Je vindt ze ook overal he?
Anyway, ik ben toch blij dat jullie er zijn; die wereldvreemde amerikanen allemaal.