Zombie Films... (Night Vs. Dawn)

I can almost hear the tapping from Brock's ivory keys all the way from the UK. Personally, I've never seen NOTLD. DOTLD, used to be my favorite film as a kid. Then I watched it about a year ago (the director's cut) and found it to be very dull in the middle section. The bookends of the film were still good, but that's all. I'm not going to over analyse the film, because I want to remember it the way I did when I was about twelve.

Okay, fair enough, but do yourself and rent the original.

Oh, and since you loved Dawn so much, I'll hit you with this: I've shopped in that mall. Whee!

Was that nurse still there with the purple face? I found her a little sexy in a kinda necrophilia sort of way.

No.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Pooka [/i]
[B]I can almost hear the tapping from Brock's ivory keys all the way from the UK. Personally, I've never seen NOTLD. DOTLD, used to be my favorite film as a kid. Then I watched it about a year ago (the director's cut) and found it to be very dull in the middle section. The bookends of the film were still good, but that's all. I'm not going to over analyse the film, because I want to remember it the way I did when I was about twelve. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey I've been drunk in Manchester before, so there... and anyhow, I love Dawn of the Dead better than any other zombie film, thanks in part to Tom Savini's superior make-up effects and the whole ambiance with the music in the mall... and I saw 28 Days Later on Friday and the music is the same at times and totally reminiscent of Dawn ofthe Dead in that it builds slowly and blasts in the end... long musical pieces, like when he awakes in the hospital until he meets the survivors, etc... although other than that, I wasn't all that impressed as a zombie film...

To this day however, Fulci's "The Beyond" is my all-time favorite zombie film...

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You really think Savini is good?

Was?

i've yet to see all of the original. but found dawn to be a bit unenjoyable. whats great about al the films is that they subliminaly deal withs trong issues, like tuffy said racism. day of the dead delt with sexism, dawn was more of just a romp to see what they could do with a higher budget i guess. i think these series has the ebst specil effects for zombies ever, along witht he return series.
but which is better, hmm.
well night of the living dead was shot on a much lower budget, and it was a b-flick; so the fact that it succeeded puts it way up there. but day had much more to work with. if i had to pick one outta all the series, it would probably be dawn of the dead.

wait a minute, was dawn of the dead in the army base, or the mall?

and savini is awesome

Dawn is the Monroeville Mall, just outside of Pittsburgh.

And Tom Savini - when I first met him at a friend's house (New Year's Eve 1999) - introduced himself to me thusly:

Savini: Hi, I'm Tom Savini.

Tuffy: Hi. I'm Tuffy.

S: Tom [i]Savini[/i]. Perhaps you've seen my work in film?

T: I... don't think so...

S: Did you see From Dusk Till Dawn? (which was then recent)

T: The vampire flick? Yeah, I saw that! Were you an extra?

S: (annoyed) No. I played the character 'Sex Machine'... I wore the codpiece with the pistol in it...

T: Um...

S: I was the first to get killed!

T: Sorry, I don't remember... Hey, my wife's over there. I was just bringing her a

S: (interrupting) Did you see Dawn of the Dead? I was a biker in that. I did the special effects makeup!

T: Yeah! Okay, yeah! Wow. That's cool! There were three of those. Yeah. (forgetting myself) The first one was the best. Scarier. Better effects... (Open mouth, insert foot.)

S: I wasn't involved in that one.

Heh. oops.

Anyway, yeah, that's a bit embellished/paraphrased, but still pretty much the gist of the conversation. His fiance was this hot little gothic number though. Her arm was in a cast 'cause she'd put it through a mirror the day before - taking a swing at Tom. This information she offered freely and without prompting. She slipped my wife he phone number. Rowr.

ah ha ha ha ha tuffy, at least you had the pleasure of meeting him.
ok i liked day of the dead the best, i get al confused witht he titles. dawn wasnt very pecial i thought, nothing to really learn just sorta a film "hey we got more cash, lets see what we can do".

theyre shooting the remake of dawn at a mall near me, im gonna hassle the mall owner until he puts me in contact witht he film makers, so i can be an extra zombie!!! wooooooooo

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tuffy the Dump Truck [/i]
[B]You really think Savini is good? [/B][/QUOTE]

I mostly liked the way he killed Kevin Bacon in Friday the 13th

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... and really, Dawn is only Day with much more gore and much longer...

i thought day had so much much more gore!!!!!!!!!
but iw as told i saw the uncut version

spoiler

there was the guy who had his body torn i n two, the whole lab scene and the close up shots of the zombies.
all i can really remember from dawn, was nothing really. i cant seem to remember anything gore related in dawn (im not trying to eb an ass here, i havnt seen the movie for a while is all)

end spoiler

but i do see the connection of the two being the same. i dont know what it is, i just didnt like dawn as much, still enjoyable but just not one of my favorites.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by knoxville [/i]
[B]i thought day had so much much more gore!!!!!!!!!
but iw as told i saw the uncut version

spoiler

there was the guy who had his body torn i n two, the whole lab scene and the close up shots of the zombies.
all i can really remember from dawn, was nothing really. i cant seem to remember anything gore related in dawn (im not trying to eb an ass here, i havnt seen the movie for a while is all)

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but i do see the connection of the two being the same. i dont know what it is, i just didnt like dawn as much, still enjoyable but just not one of my favorites. [/B][/QUOTE]

you're friggin' nuts... no gore in Dawn? Go watch it already... it would take me all day to type the separate instances...

lol all i can really rememebr is them running form the zombies.
also the beginning, i rmemeber gore there. but i cant remmeber any close up shots of a zombie munching ona foot or anything

Never saw the third one, actually... I disliked Dawn upon first viewing [b]that[/b] much.

I thought the remake of Night was completed last year... It was all Savini and no Romero, or something. And, really, remaking Night is like remaking King Kong; an exercise in mass-stupidity.

Truth be told, I did see Dawn again years later, and was able to enjoy it.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tuffy the Dump Truck [/i]
[B]Never saw the third one, actually... I disliked Dawn upon first viewing [b]that[/b] much.

I thought the remake of Night was completed last year... It was all Savini and no Romero, or something. And, really, remaking Night is like remaking King Kong; an exercise in mass-stupidity. [/B][/QUOTE]

Are you thinking of 1990's Tom Savini-directed color remake?

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the remake of nioght is actually very good. some have said near best as the original

So... are they making a remake of the original or remaking the remake?

they already made a remake of night of the living dead. right now they are remakign dawn of the living dead in toronto. hopefully ill get to be an extra! wooooo

Dawn of The Dead is the BEST fucking film ever made. It stands up better every year, being prescient as fuck at the time. The shopping mall skit shit is really amazing. I mean, TELL me that's not how we live now, especially 25 years on from that film.

"They're after us. They know we're still in here."

"They're after the place, that's all. This was an important place in their lives. they don't know why, they just remember."

They're remaking it in Canada. Guy who wrote the live-action Scooby Doo script wrote the thing.

Oh, joy.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Protocore [/i]
[B]
They're remaking it in Canada. [/B][/QUOTE]

[b] oh shit! really???????[/b]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. You hoser.

Insert Bob and Doug McKenzie flashbacks here...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Protocore [/i]
[B]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. You hoser.

Insert Bob and Doug McKenzie flashbacks here... [/B][/QUOTE]

so is stereotypes

did you hear? i heard they were making a movie in america too! and one in scotland as well !!!! never mind the details!

Tuffy, sorry to say it, but they [i]are[/i] remaking King Kong. CG and all, most likely.

But luckily, it's our favorite Peter Jackson in the director's chair.

[url]http://us.imdb.com/Title?0360717[/url]

Also, Tim Burton is remaking Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Two great directors, two bound-to-be-crap-but-better-be-good movies.

God....the problems just keep on coming....get this: Emi-fucking-nem is currently in thought to play fucking WILLY WONKA.

God this movie will suck immensely if that happens.

"Yo yo check dis nigga...do's is da midgets me likes to callz teh oompla-mudda-fuckin-loompaz, my nigga."

=/ sounds more like Mike Skinner to me lol.

I've seen all 3 Dead movies and I honestly can't say which is best. I enjoy each one so much I don't even like to compare them. What Night says about rascism, Dawn says about consumerism, and Day says about the millitary and lab experimentation.

I really think Day of the Dead gets overlooked way too much. I felt it had all the ingredients that made the first two so great, yet it expanded nicely upon the detereriorating relationships between the humans.

Speaking of 28 Days Later, I was very impressed by it. I hear a lot of zombie fans have been disappointed with it, b/c it didn't live up to their expectations. But for me, it delivered b/c it followed (if not stole) a lot of the conventions that Romero used so well in his films. I also think it was pretty groundbreaking for 24P cameras and what they did with them.

See, I loved the film because I had no expectations. I'm not a zombie-film fan at all, never seen any of the Romero classics, hated Resident Evil for obvious reasons, but I felt 28 Days Later was an amazing film.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Brock Landers [/i]
[B]Hey I've been drunk in Manchester before, so there...

What the hell does that have to do with my remark about you tapping on your computer keys?
You've told me before that you've been to Manchester and stayed a few days - which I'm more than impressed with - but your statement holds no relavance to my dim witted throw away remark. It's only purpose was mean't as a tenuous link into replying to this thread (see opening line by Tuffy).
With you already listing most zombie movies in the GOOD FILM thread, I envisaged a full and detailed account of the pro's and con's of said trilogy, but it seems (by the look of your previous replies) your more than happy to attach film stills, posters and a few glib retorts.
Could this mark the end of your notoriously lengthy explanations into whatever bee is buzzing around your panama at that time? Or is it just a creative lull, induced by abstaining from plulling your plum's.
By the way, which area of Manchester did you stay in?

I wouldn't if I didn't enjoy it so...Then again, I can't really see how what i've just said, can be misconstrued as me 'provoking' the Brockster into a verbal retaliation? I like your slant on things though.

believe me, provoking gets you 2 weeks

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Pooka [/i]
[B][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Brock Landers [/i]
[B]Hey I've been drunk in Manchester before, so there...

What the hell does that have to do with my remark about you tapping on your computer keys?
You've told me before that you've been to Manchester and stayed a few days - which I'm more than impressed with - but your statement holds no relavance to my dim witted throw away remark. It's only purpose was mean't as a tenuous link into replying to this thread (see opening line by Tuffy).
With you already listing most zombie movies in the GOOD FILM thread, I envisaged a full and detailed account of the pro's and con's of said trilogy, but it seems (by the look of your previous replies) your more than happy to attach film stills, posters and a few glib retorts.
Could this mark the end of your notoriously lengthy explanations into whatever bee is buzzing around your panama at that time? Or is it just a creative lull, induced by abstaining from plulling your plum's.
By the way, which area of Manchester did you stay in? [/B][/QUOTE]

I'll be honest with you. I 'think' I saw Night of the Living Dead once and have had no occasion arise that has warranted purchasing one of the over 12 versions available on DVD to rewatch it. So I'm no expert on it. I've seen dawn of the Dead about 20 times since I first found a copy as a youth and think it is brilliant. Other than that, Dennis mentioned it's consumeristic statement, and yeah... to elaborate... it's a bunch of zombies eating flesh. Great stuff. Day of the dead I saw once and don't remember and can't find a decent copy anywhere to rewatch it, so fuck it... Dawn of the Dead is best...

So I made an aside remark. So fucking what? You somehow neglect to remember this is a discussion board and as it is termed a discussion, I don't know about you, but quite often in discussions I observe and take part in, people say things for no reason that have little to do with anything. I'm no better... and really you tell me to "elaborate" while others tell me to "write less", and I could care less either way... I just type what i feel like at the time...

and fuck it... I like zombie pictures... and really I'm no film geek who subdivides the zombie genre into little fucking monologues about the sexual habits of a zombie or what their bowel movements consist of... it's just a movie. Zombie movies to me are about as intellectual as you can get with a film about mindless, thoughtless monsters that eat people who sometmes have witty dialogue. If I had to use the term "cheap thrill", then that's about as close as it gets... and for my money, it gets no better than spaghetti sauce splattered across the screen while some living dead dude chomps on brains...

As far as tapping on my keys, my remark had nothing to do with that, and in reality, I didn't understand what that remark meant as nothing previously mentioned before said "tapping keys" remark had me tapping much of anything...

Anyhow, my not giving an in-depth breakdown of said zombie film or film trilogy, has little to do with the plucking of fruit, even if it is my own strange fruit. You know this and I know this, so no need to be coy. I like arguing as much as the next guy about useless stuff, but in this case, I can't think of much that would make me any more interested than I already am about zombie films...

Zombie movies good...

Hurrah!!! Now that’s what I’m talking (or is that typing?). You never fail to let me down (for a moment there I thought I was actually going to fall into some pre-pubescent vernacular and say a word like ‘Dude!). When I get a response back like that, I swear my testicles retract slightly. Apologies if I had to provoke you a little, but you’re one of the very few people on this site I actually quite like conversing with (although, we haven’t done that much). It’s all bollocks about the tapping of keys; I myself have no real idea why I mentioned it to begin with. I prescribe to a random thought process of writing, and say pretty much anything that pops into the old noggin. I find it makes for a more interesting read later in the day.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by leonardshelby [/i]
[B]Tuffy, sorry to say it, but they [i]are[/i] remaking King Kong. CG and all, most likely. [/B][/QUOTE]

That. Plain. Sucks.

Might as well remake Frankenstein while we're at it. Wait... Don't tell me...

Yeah but it's Peter Jackson, how bad could it be?

i liked king kong the ride at universal studios, the bastards shut it down tho

It could [b]suck out loud[/b]. That's how bad it could be.

Shut up, Knox. I'm angry.

you shut up! i loved that ride!!!!!!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by leonardshelby [/i]
[B]Yeah but it's Peter Jackson, how bad could it be? [/B][/QUOTE]

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