Your 2004 list, otherwise known as time to bitch or praise the films you've watched

top movies:
eternal sunshine
collateral
napoleon dynamite

Best= in no order

Team America
Oldboy
Eternal Sunshine
Shaun of the Dead
Kill Bill 2

also good =

Spiderman 2
Primer
Gozu
Zatoichi
Guerrilla: The Taking of Patty Hearst
Coffee & Cigarettes
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
Twentynine Palms

BIGGEST dissapointments.

Fahrenheit 9/11
Super Size Me
Hero
Garden State
Open Water
The Tulse Luper Suitcases, Part 1 - The Moab Story (Greenaway, why you so crazy?)
One Missed Call (but I heart Miike )

Absolute Worst =

Anatomy of Hell
Saw

Films I wanna see right now but cant because I live in a stupid country =

A Dirty Shame
Haute Tension
A Hole In My Heart

Best films I saw all year that didnt actually come out this year =

Visitor Q
Irreversable

Spiderman 2
Shaun Of The Dead
Dawn of the Dead (remake) was this 2003 or 2004?
Collateral

yeah, no one bitch and moan about me saying Spiderman 2, it was a GREAT ENTERNTAINING movie, so there.

Good:

Napoleon Dynamite
Shaun Of The Dead
City Of God
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind

My favorites of the year so far...

Sideways
Collateral
Eternal Sunshine
Garden State
Closer

Loved:
[B]Napolean Dynamite[/B] [I]Flippin sweet.[/I]
[B]Elf [/B]
[B]Eternal Sunshine[/B]
[B]Anchorman[/B] ([i]this is the pregnancy doctor.. yep, you're knocked up.[/i])

Hated:
[B]The Village[/B] [I]scariest moment: when the girl fell in a hole in the woods. WTF?!?![/I]
[B]Lost in Translation[/B] [I]2003 or 2004? who cares, it's worth mentioning again. TOTAL CRAP![/I]

Oh, and I haven't even seen [B]Alexander [/B] yet, but I haven't met one person who liked it... so dissapointed. I'll see it in the cheap seats, but I won't get my hopes up.

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]Top 5 Films;

[B]The Corporation[/B] - yeah, it played out more like an essay on film, but the thesis was rock solid.

[B]City of God[/B] - technically a 2002-2003 movie, but you know how those foreign distribution deals work out.

[B]Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind[/B] - those who got it, got it. For everybody else, too bad.

[B]Sideways[/B] - Fucking balls out funny.

[B]Oldboy[/B] - Finally scored a decent copy. worth the wait.

Honorable mentions;

[B]Badasssss![/B] - docu-drama goodness
[B]Internal Affairs[/B] - the US dvd cover was bollocks, but the film was great.
[B]Finding Neverland[/B] - breaks your heart
[B]Garden State[/B] - it was alright
[B]The Motorcycle Diaries[/B] - another docu-drama goodness

Titles I wished would hit my cinema, (wishlist for 2004);

[B]Tarnation
Bad Education
2046
Kinsey
Undertow[/B]

[/QUOTE]

Did you buy Oldboy, and if so how much?

I live in Chicago and I looked for 2046 and do not remeber seeing it here either.

[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]Best= in no order

Team America
Oldboy
Eternal Sunshine
Shaun of the Dead
Kill Bill 2

also good =

Spiderman 2
Primer
Gozu
Zatoichi
Guerrilla: The Taking of Patty Hearst
Coffee & Cigarettes
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
Twentynine Palms

BIGGEST dissapointments.

Fahrenheit 9/11
Super Size Me
Hero
Garden State
Open Water
The Tulse Luper Suitcases, Part 1 - The Moab Story (Greenaway, why you so crazy?)
One Missed Call (but I heart Miike )

Absolute Worst =

Anatomy of Hell
Saw

Films I wanna see right now but cant because I live in a stupid country =

A Dirty Shame
Haute Tension
A Hole In My Heart

Best films I saw all year that didnt actually come out this year =
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Visitor Q
Irreversable[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

These are great. Irreversible was on my list for last year.

I'd have to go with:

[B]Closer
The Machinist
Sideways
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Garden State[/B]

Though the top three are the only ones I would trot out for any accolades most likely.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
One Point O

I think I saw Twisted this year on a free movie pass. That was the worst movie of the year. Best movie of the year was Eternal Sunshine. City of God was great, too.

I gather this is supposed to be about 2004, but I nominate anything by Anthony Minghella. He rocks, especially in movies you guys probably think are boring. For worst film of the year I nominate Soderburgh, what a chauncy.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]Loved:
[B][SIZE=4]Napolean Dynamite[/SIZE][/B] [I]Flippin sweet.[/I]
[B][SIZE=4]Elf [/SIZE] [/B]
[B]Eternal Sunshine[/B]
[B][SIZE=4]Anchorman[/SIZE][/B] ([i]this is the pregnancy doctor.. yep, you're knocked up.[/i])

Hated:
[B]The Village[/B] [I]scariest moment: when the girl fell in a hole in the woods. WTF?!?![/I]
[B][SIZE=4]Lost in Translation[/SIZE][/B] [I][SIZE=4]2003 or 2004? who cares, it's worth mentioning again. TOTAL CRAP[/SIZE]![/I][/QUOTE]

Phillistine.

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Phillistine.[/QUOTE]

um... okay... Jew!

I have no problem standing behind my proclamation the [B]Lost in Translation [/B] was quite possibly the worst movie I've ever seen.

Any Challengers?

[QUOTE=ireLocus]I have no problem standing behind my proclamation the [B]Lost in Translation [/B] was quite possibly the worst movie I've ever seen.

Any Challengers?[/QUOTE]

Well it is quite possibly the worst movie YOU'VE seen, but it wasn't the worst movie I've seen.

[QUOTE=remember]Well it is quite possibly the worst movie YOU'VE seen, but it wasn't the worst movie I've seen.[/QUOTE]

then allow me to rephrase...

[B]Lost in Translation [/B] is quite possibly the worst movie ever made.

Talk amongst yourselves...

Good films I've seen this year:
Dawn of the Dead

Good films I've only recently seen at theaters across town:
Shaun of the Dead
The Machinist

Good Films I've seen for the first time as recently as this week on video:
Napolean Dynamite

[QUOTE=Brother Supremo]
Good Films I've seen for the first time as recently as this week on video:
Napolean Dynamite[/QUOTE]

fliipin' sweet.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]then allow me to rephrase...

[B]Lost in Translation [/B] is quite possibly the worst movie ever made.

Talk amongst yourselves...[/QUOTE]

I could defend Lost in Translation, or I could mention a movie that is worse. The REAL worst movie ever made is ... is ... DAMN I seriously can't think of anything.

You Melonballer.

Is Napoleon Dynamite good? Like buy it while I'm shopping tonight good?

[QUOTE=remember]I could defend Lost in Translation, or I could mention a movie that is worse. The REAL worst movie ever made is ... is ... DAMN I seriously can't think of anything.

You Melonballer.

Is Napoleon Dynamite good? Like buy it while I'm shopping tonight good?[/QUOTE]

well, It's stupid funny, but it's definitely the best movie ever made like that. I love it, so I'd say buy it, but it depends on your sense of humor.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]well, It's stupid funny, but it's definitely the best movie ever made like that. I love it, so I'd say buy it, but it depends on your sense of humor.[/QUOTE]

Is it Rushmore funny? or like Dodgeball funny.

[QUOTE=remember]Is it Rushmore funny? or like Dodgeball funny.[/QUOTE]
didn't see Rushmore, and it's more homey feeling than dodgeball, a bit less random. I'd say it'll still be funny in ten years where dodgeball may fizzle out because of how specific may of the references and jokes are. Napolean is set a few years back, so it's gonna be a classic I'd say.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]well, It's stupid funny, but it's definitely the best movie ever made like that. I love it, so I'd say buy it, but it depends on your sense of humor.[/QUOTE]
I keep hearing it advertised on the radio. As much as I hate radio advertisements for movies because, well, we can't see the damn thing and the suspenseful music doesn't do shit, the ads for Napoleon Dynamite amuse me. It is now on my list of movies to see.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]then allow me to rephrase...

[B]Lost in Translation [/B] is quite possibly the worst movie ever made.

Talk amongst yourselves...[/QUOTE]

You're an idiot. But then again, you like Napolean Dynamite and Anchorman so it's categorically improbable that you would get what Lost in Translation was working at.

You like Big Gulp movies.

Do you drive a pick'em-up truck?

I had never heard of it until today, and it is just turning into a fireworks display for the damn movie - Co-workers, people here. It's outta control. I guess I better go find out what the big deal is. Shit, you even selected your avatar from it did you not?

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]You're an idiot. But then again, you like Napolean Dynamite and Anchorman so it's categorically improbable that you would get what Lost in Translation was working at.

You like Big Gulp movies.

Do you drive a pick'em-up truck?[/QUOTE]

What was Lost in Translation working at? And what is a Big Gulp movie?

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]You're an idiot. But then again, you like Napolean Dynamite and Anchorman so it's categorically improbable that you would get what Lost in Translation was working at.

You like Big Gulp movies.

Do you drive a pick'em-up truck?[/QUOTE]

I'm an idiot. No argument there. I drive a Jeep Wrangler thank you very much.

Now then, C.S.Lewis said that a sign of true wisom and learning is the ability to make even the most difficult concepts understandable to even the simplest people. With that in mind, explain to me what the Hell [B]Lost in Translation [/B] was about, because I obviously didn't get it.

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Did you buy Oldboy, and if so how much?

I live in Chicago and I looked for 2046 and do not remeber seeing it here either.[/QUOTE]
I probably overpaid for Oldboy, but it was worth every penny of $19.

You might be able to find 2046 through one of these links via Bboymute's [URL=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?p=536935#post536935]post[/URL] or with one of the links I'll send you via pm courtesy (again) from bboymute.
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wtf is this talk about Lost in Translation? oh wait..some of you waited for the dvd..carry on..

Oh and for the record, while I do like "Big gulp" movies, that doesn't necessarily characterize my taste in movies as a whole. I'm much more eclectic than you're allowing with that statement.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]Oh and for the record, while I do like "Big gulp" movies, that doesn't necessarily characterize my taste in movies as a whole. I'm much more eclectic than you're allowing with that statement.[/QUOTE]

No doubt, but that doesn't suit my purposes here.

Ha... a Jeep Wrangler, I knew it!

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]
wtf is this talk about Lost in Translation? oh wait..some of you waited for the dvd..carry on..[/QUOTE]

I'm just pandering to Parkaboy's apparent intellectual vanity by insisting he back up his claim to have gotten what "Lost in Translation was working at." He seems tho believe it wasn't total rubbish captured on film and I'd like to know why. If he does so, then i'll give my reason as to why my opinion differs from his. what'd you think of it PCJ?

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]No doubt, but that doesn't suit my purposes here.

Ha... a Jeep Wrangler, I knew it![/QUOTE]

sticks and stones may break my bones, but not if I break yours first.. now then... do you feel like explaining to us lesser folk what Lost in Translaiton was "wroking at" or not?

And my Jeep Wrangler Kicks ass, I could really care less what you think about it. (though I used to drive a Volvo and loved it as well, but that doesn't fit in with the image you've created of me in your mind... no I'm just a pick'em up truck drivin' Big Gulp movie lovin hick... ain't that right?)

[QUOTE=ireLocus]sticks and stones may break my bones, but not if I break yours first.. now then... do you feel like explaining to us lesser folk what Lost in Translaiton was "wroking at" or not?

And my Jeep Wrangler Kicks ass, I could really care less what you think about it. (though I used to drive a Volvo and loved it as well, but that doesn't fit in with the image you've created of me in your mind... no I'm just a pick'em up truck drivin' Big Gulp movie lovin hick... ain't that right?)[/QUOTE]

HAHAHA, how about putting some of that energy into telling me about Napoleon Dynamite. Big Gulps kick ass. I suppose Parkaboy watches Bordeaux movies. What the fuck ever. "I am an avante garde poet." blah fuckin blah.

[QUOTE=ireLocus]I'm just pandering to Parkaboy's apparent intellectual vanity by insisting he back up his claim to have gotten what "Lost in Translation was working at." He seems tho believe it wasn't total rubbish captured on film and I'd like to know why. If he does so, then i'll give my reason as to why my opinion differs from his. what'd you think of it PCJ?[/QUOTE]

Here's what I said back in August when I had to defend it against other Phillistines:

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]It was a well crafted movie without being "crafted". Two people, having this connection that cannot go anywhere, this longing, that stems from there own lives and carries over into this love fore each other.

But it doesn't ever fall into the Hollywood trap. It doesn't pander to the audience. It doesn't overwrite the characters or their position in the world, or their sense of self. (They're)their lost, or at least adrift as people tend to be.

Too often in film you have to have these dramatic character arcs, these well defined goals. How many people have that in their life? How many people actualy change? Actually know what they want?

This movie depicted the floating aspect that life is more times than not and that two such people adrift can bump into each other on what, for them, is the far side of the world, somewhere away from at least some of thier baggage.

In that way it's hopeful without being saccharine.

It hits the notes evenly but not loudly and that is all too rare in film these days. American or otherwise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=remember]HAHAHA, how about putting some of that energy into telling me about Napoleon Dynamite. Big Gulps kick ass. I suppose Parkaboy watches Bordeaux movies. What the fuck ever. "I am an avante garde poet." blah fuckin blah.[/QUOTE]

I don't drink Bordeau, but then I don't drink Michael Bay's urine either...

[QUOTE=ireLocus]I'm just pandering to Parkaboy's apparent intellectual vanity by insisting he back up his claim to have gotten what "Lost in Translation was working at." He seems tho believe it wasn't total rubbish captured on film and I'd like to know why. If he does so, then i'll give my reason as to why my opinion differs from his. what'd you think of it PCJ?[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed it. At times, it felt a bit slim, but overall it was a good film. I don't think Parkaboy is downplaying your taste. It's just a sign of passion.

y'all, can't we have a film chat without resorting to 4th grade antics?

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]I don't drink Bordeau, but then I don't drink Michael Bay's urine either...[/QUOTE]

What a divinely esoteric joke, it's Lost on me.

[QUOTE=remember]HAHAHA, how about putting some of that energy into telling me about Napoleon Dynamite. Big Gulps kick ass. I suppose Parkaboy watches Bordeaux movies. What the fuck ever. "I am an avante garde poet." blah fuckin blah.[/QUOTE]

NP is pretty dumb, ostensibly. But the characters and situations are things that typify a generation (which probably wasn't quite far enough behind us to be "retro" or whatever). It's kinda like Sixteen Candles or Better Off Dead, but it wasn't made in the eighies. It felt a bit awkward because of that, in the same way that parts of The Wedding Singer felt awkward... most of the jokes were funny because they were making fun of stuff we used to like or do or say, but some people haven't quite let some of that stuff go yet.

Notwithstanding, it's really dry humor at it's best. You almost have to watch it twice to get into it, and there's tons of quotable lines to boot. It's alove story of sorts, and awkward, geeky love story about a kid with a pet llama and moon boots.

In one word: Flippin' sweet.

[QUOTE=remember]What a divinely esoteric joke, it's Lost on me.[/QUOTE]
Michael Bay--esoteric?

He directed Armageddon!! and The Rock!! and let's not forget the Bad Boys movies!!! Weee!!! Those were fun!!! He has cinematic ADD he has to cut every 5 seconds and try and put the audience into a seizure. He's terrible. Shows up at those Adult Video Awards smiling like a coked up monkey. And people keep shelling out money to watch this crap and Hollywood keeps making it.

And I remember when they used to make good action movies. Shit...

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]I enjoyed it. At times, it felt a bit slim, but overall it was a good film. I don't think Parkaboy is downplaying your taste. It's just a sign of passion.

y'all, can't we have a film chat without resorting to 4th grade antics?[/QUOTE]

oh I try, but if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Now then, Parkaboy... the movie, to me, seemed like the audience wasn't intended to get it. It felt like an andy Kauffman type joke where the actors and produces and everyone involved know that it's a failry well made but altogether boring, uneventful movie, but since the exectution went well maybe no one would notice. and they didn't. Critics loved it ad the average movie goer walked out of the theater scratching his befuddled head thinking, "if someone asks me what it was about... what am I going to say?"

Or here's another take: Maybe the characters were just too real. Just as if I could meet them in real life.... that's not entertaining and that's not why I pay eight and a half bucks to see a movie. I could get that in a coffee shop or a barnes and nobles.

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Michael Bay--esoteric?

He directed Armageddon!! and The Rock!! and let's not forget the Bad Boys movies!!! Weee!!! Those were fun!!! He has cinematic ADD he has to cut every 5 seconds and try and put the audience into a seizure. He's terrible. Shows up at those Adult Video Awards smiling like a coked up monkey. And people keep shelling out money to watch this crap and Hollywood keeps making it.

And I remember when they used to make good action movies. Shit...[/QUOTE]Not trying to turn this into a Bay bashing, but his worst doing was Pearl Harbor. He did start out as music video director, but not like that's necessarily a bad thing. see Spike Jonze, Michel Godrey, etc. for proof that not all video directors are bad.

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Michael Bay--esoteric?

He directed Armageddon!! and The Rock!! and let's not forget the Bad Boys movies!!! Weee!!! Those were fun!!! He has cinematic ADD he has to cut every 5 seconds and try and put the audience into a seizure. He's terrible. Shows up at those Adult Video Awards smiling like a coked up monkey. And people keep shelling out money to watch this crap and Hollywood keeps making it.

And I remember when they used to make good action movies. Shit...[/QUOTE]

Well, I enjoyed most of those movies. (pearl harbor sucked) judge a movie for what it is. The Rock was cool, Armageddon was a great end of the world movie... (and of course, in this light, Lost in Translation redeems itself because I think the movie turned out exactly how it was intended, Ijust didn't like it.) And Bad Boys, come on... that was funny shit.

[QUOTE=Parkaboy]Michael Bay--esoteric?

He directed Armageddon!! and The Rock!! and let's not forget the Bad Boys movies!!! Weee!!! Those were fun!!! He has cinematic ADD he has to cut every 5 seconds and try and put the audience into a seizure. He's terrible. Shows up at those Adult Video Awards smiling like a coked up monkey. And people keep shelling out money to watch this crap and Hollywood keeps making it.

And I remember when they used to make good action movies. Shit...[/QUOTE]

Right on, right on. I just like saying esoteric. I never actually knew who Michael Bay was, but then Armageddon was not a movie that had me thinking, "Wow! Who directed that!?" Who would Bordeau be then anyway? Like, Um ... Truffaut?

[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]Not trying to turn this into a Bay bashing, but his worst doing was Pearl Harbor. He did start out as music video director, but not like that's necessarily a bad thing. see Spike Jonze, Michel Gondrey, etc. for proof that not all video directors are bad.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they were just lucky to get Kaufman scripts.

alien vs predator, dudes

[img]http://hipme.com/weblogs/nathanchase/20040106070703/Avp.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=ireLocus]I have no problem standing behind my proclamation the [B]Lost in Translation [/B] was quite possibly the worst movie I've ever seen.

Any Challengers?[/QUOTE]

thats because it sucked, and you should have no problem standing behind such a proclamation.

[QUOTE=walkingcontradiction]thats because it sucked, and you should have no problem standing behind such a proclamation.[/QUOTE]

...[I]to the rescue[/I].. where've ya been?

[QUOTE=ireLocus]...[I]to the rescue[/I].. where've ya been?[/QUOTE]
where havent i been?

shopping for locations for my film ALL DAY!!! and i had to get permission to film from two places, i went to an antique store and found and original The Who "who are you"album, i about pissed myself, its AWSOME!!! its for my friend raj in england.... who my film is dedicated to... anywho. I also got my guitar fixed today, its the shittest guitar ever but i love her so much. My blazer is also out of the shop...but i gotta take her back again, they messed with a bunch of stuff, and i want it back to normal, also all my CDs that were in there are not gone. So i'm gonna bitch about that, this has nothing to do with this thread but oh well. I also boughta digital camera today for myself. just for snap shots, instead of carrying around my other baby - '68 canon - for my real photography stuff, now i am off to see Sideways and dinner. take care tony...

happy holidays... nice avatar.