the underground scene

mostly alt rock around here, but i like all types of music. what bands are you into?

me, i also am into many types of music, alotta classic rock not much into the alt., but in hardcore my favorite is most precious blood, how about you ( I like the liam lynch reference, song always makes me laugh)

i like hardcore and metal

great, you got credablilty to me cause your in ny and close to the scene (ny hardcore anyway), what bands do you like?

bands like biohazard, madball, and agnostic front are what got me into hardcore

i can't claim credibility or even name any bands...i was hoping you'd educate.

btw, i used to call my best friend's ex boyfriend seanny the mick.

madball is the shit, i saw biohazard with hatebreed a while ago, kicked ass, agnostic front i've heard of

boston has a fairly lively hardcore scene

what is btw

by the way

by the way, i figured it out

boston,eh dont think i know anything from boston

Suicidal Tendencies is another band that got me into hardcore. They've been around for a long time, just like agnostic front

i have heard of suicidal tendancies, but the band i say got me into hardcore would be bleeding through

irate and through the disipline are good too
probably spelt that wrong

cool, thanks, i'll check them out.

i think they are what is considered new school hardcore.

ST and Agnostic are old school. I like new school, but old school is my favorite. I also like metal. One of the newer metal bands that I have been listening to lately is Killswitch Engage

hardcore stuff is hard to find though, so you gottta look hard

i love old school, i like tough guy, which is what you are calling new school, but in metal i like to stick to the older stuff, like motorhead, metallica, and pantera, shite like that

slayer and sepultura are two of my favorite bands

old sepultura though

of course. max has to be present

the only hardcore i like is cky (altho that can be questionned wether theyre really hardcore or not) and slayer, well one song by slayer. thats it

Yeah, I don't know if I'd call Biohazard, Sepultura or Suicidal Tendencies hardcore, although the one in the middle is pretty awesome. I'd call them all metal.

Boston has a fuckin brutal hardcore scene. And Madball blows.

Nope. I used to be. Now I am an Irish/Punk, Radiohead, and Tool fan. Narrow but suits me fine.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by prototype [/i]
[B]Yeah, I don't know if I'd call Biohazard, Sepultura or Suicidal Tendencies hardcore, although the one in the middle is pretty awesome. I'd call them all metal. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thats true, they aren't what is called hardcore today. Biohazard and ST are is what hardcore used to be. Now hardcore is typified by bands like Hatebreed. Biohazard's newest album, Kill or Be Killed, is new hardcore though.

Sepultura is mos def metal. One of my favorites.

hatebreed is over rated, and I don't really think they embody the hardcore scene as a whole, certainly not in new york

I sorta like Atreyu and Underoath, but that's about it as far as hardcore goes. Too many of those bands lose their focus in that they're trying to be hardcore more than they're trying to make good music.

Despite that, I still think CurlUpAndDie is pretty fucking entertaining.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sean the crazy mick [/i]
[B]hatebreed is over rated, and I don't really think they embody the hardcore scene as a whole, certainly not in new york [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree, but they are kind of like the mainstream hardcore band that people have at least heard of. I definitely liked Satisfaction is the Death of Desire better than Perseverance

Hatebreed doesn't embody hardcore because they aren't hardcore. They're metalcore. Which is also why they don't embody the scene in New York, because nyhc is its own thing unto itself.

see metalcore is too technical for me. i usually just break things down into hardcore or metal. and yes nyhc is an entity all its own.

Ehhh, metalcore is easily identifiable by the power chords and metal riffs. Like Hatebreed uses power chords, so they're metalcore.

Buuut, take a band like Every Time I Die, and it's just different music. That's hardcore.

a hell of alot of rock bands use power cords. it is the most commonly used cord, even in alternative bands. i guess bands like hatebreed just make their power cords more noticeable

Yeah. Power chords are kinda gay.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Your mom?

Buuuuuurnnnn.

i have no problem with "hardcore" i just hate all these sub-categories.

newschool hardcore, metalcore, ect.

hence, the eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww.l

Posthardcore too?

yes. and all that bullshit.

What the fuck is grindcore? And emocore? I mean enough already, just die.

exactly

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DoNotTrip [/i]
[B]Thats true, they aren't what is called hardcore today. Biohazard and ST are is what hardcore used to be. Now hardcore is typified by bands like Hatebreed. Biohazard's newest album, Kill or Be Killed, is new hardcore though.

Sepultura is mos def metal. One of my favorites. [/B][/QUOTE]

Don't listen to a word this dude has to say about music. Seriously he doesn't know shit.

Grind has been around for over a decade. It's not something new, even if you just heard the term.

This thread makes me want to bash my head against a wall (and just for all you pessimists, that wouldn't kill me, so no need to encourage it).

OMG UR SO SMART U NO EVERYUTIHNGA BOUT MUISIC U MSUT B IN ABAND!!!!112

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by grade 5 dropout [/i]
[B]OMG UR SO SMART U NO EVERYUTIHNGA BOUT MUISIC U MSUT B IN ABAND!!!!112 [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh my god you are so fucking retarded you must be in grade school. Way to make a petty statement in an attempt to make me feel bad for having knowledge that others here don't possess.

Way to be pretentious because you "possess" all knowledge of metal, you big rockstar you.

No pretense. DoNotTrip has proven himself to be a complete ignoramus when it comes to things like this (he called Limp Bizkit extreme metal, and no, he wasn't kidding). Furthermore, Plasitc was talking about genres like grindcore etc as though they were some new buzzwords, when in actuality, grindcore has existed for well over a decade. You're obviously not going to outsmart me, so I think it would be best if you just left me alone. I made it to sixth grade, and beyond.

well, cutiepie (yes thats you The Adversary), I was kidding about LB, but I guess you were too engulfed in your "extreme metal" to pick up on my sarcasm. I always knew you were quick.

Every take note... The Adversary's opinion must be taken as pure fact. If he says something suck then it must be true. If he says something is good then it must be true. The Adversary is a god when it comes to music knowledge. I bet your band is absol-fucking-lutely great. Musical genius. Move over Mozart.

All bow to The Adversary and his infinite wisdom and glory.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DoNotTrip [/i]
[B]well, cutiepie (yes thats you The Adversary), I was kidding about LB, but I guess you were too engulfed in your "extreme metal" to pick up on my sarcasm. I always knew you were quick.

Every take note... The Adversary's opinion must be taken as pure fact. If he says something suck then it must be true. If he says something is good then it must be true. The Adversary is a god when it comes to music knowledge. I bet your band is absol-fucking-lutely great. Musical genius. Move over Mozart.

All bow to The Adversary and his infinite wisdom and glory. [/B][/QUOTE]

Where did I ever say my opinion was the right one? FACT: Grindcore is over a decade old. FACT: Every comment you've made in this thread has a brutal tinge of ignorance that someone in my position has the ability to see because I simply possess more knowledge. This doesn't make me any better, or anymore correct. Your accusations are stupid and petty and stem from your inability to formulate a cohesive argument against me, other than your obvious disdain for me. You should learn to differentiate between FACTS and OPINIONS. However, when discussing this type of music, why would someone value your opinion over mine when I obviously am more learned in the subject. That's like taking advice on stock tips from your best friend instead of a Wall Street broker. FURTHERMORE, metal isn't even my favorite type of music. I listen to more non-metal than metal, so again you are just making petty assumptions based on no real evidence.