The new Kindle commercial is so condescending

You aren't real until you have an avatar.

....I'm a ghost?....dammit I'm in a bad M.Night movie.

Oh guys, look what I found... I think it's pretty condescending. What do you guys think?

Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep tonight.

The real news here is that Fsdghcamel's spleen has gained sentience.

My thoughts exactly.

Of all her body parts to take on a life of its own, her spleen was not what I would have expected.

I guess I can forgive the whole... avatarlessness, along with the sin of making a thread about a video and then not embedding the video... only because I have very low expectations of a spleen.

Fuck Kindle's.

In da butt.

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Though I didn't think the commercials are great, the first one does address things that people who have never used a Kindle think about it. So good move on Amazon's part.

I am actually annoyed by people who dog-ear books. What, you couldn't find a scrap of paper?

I'm with Tuffy on this one.

Also, unless the book belongs to you, it's pretty rude.

Wow those adverts are dreadful.

Amazon should not be playing dress up as Apple, they only make themselves look foolish. I can't believe they used the dog-ears angle, I mean c'mon anyone who cares for their books isn't going to do that anyway and anyone who doesn't care about any damage to the pages doesn't care about any damage to the pages.

Who was that supposed to win over?

my argument is still, and always has been:

you cant have a hand signed, rare-as-fuck-first-edition ebook. not only that, but i have books within arms reach right at this instant that are older than the state i live in. technology be damned.

Real books = Sticking your dick in a hot ass.

Kindle's = Sticking your dick in a FleshLight.

How often you read those dusty tomes, Chuck?

So, you're saying you've never read a book of any kind?

It's not like the apple commercials aren't as condescending. They call 90% of computer users inept, and mock essentially all businesses* using computers as an industry tool.

I'm guessing the goofy, Apple-style was to stimulate conversation. Successful here anyway.

* Less graphics-oriented businesses using Macs and techs using *nix

Also, random newbie (and others just like him/her) creating thread out of the blue may be posting the same thing on forums all over the net. Amazon plant maybe?

@ Tuffy

That's what I meant, man. Apple's advertising pisses me off time and time again, which is why I dislike Amazon following their lead.

I suppose you are right though. I watched the advert after all. I joined the conversation.

Not making me want to buy a kindle though.

Ha, definitely not a plant. If I was going to buy any e-reader it would be the nook anyway. I'm a die-hard B&N kinda guy. But thank you anyway Tuffy. I'm liking the avatar.

I can't believe people are so divided over ebooks. To-mae-toe, to-mah-toe, y'all.

I like Kindles and I like physical books and I am suspicious of those who feel too strongly about either "side" — it seems like so much pointless showing off either way.

I agree with you there Phil.

I've come to a point where there are books I know I'm only going to fly through and never think about again. I buy those for my nook.

Other books, I rather have a physical copy. I buy those in paper.

Some books I want a copy of both. So I buy the physical book and download a copy. I did that with Will Chris Baer's stuff.

Though I think I'm going to slowly become like Mirka and try to get rid of some of my books. And hopefully filter it down to the books I love or know I will reread. I'm not to that point though.

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As far as the commercials. I think they are successful for what they are trying to do. Definitely don't need any over thinking.

Random tangent, I work in a hospital and last night I came across a patient who was eighty six and he was sat reading from his kindle.

I thought that was cool. Not many folks that age would be into the idea I imagine.

God, my kindle was irreplaceable after my surgery. I would have felt bad asking my family to fetch and tote around a bunch of books.

TBH hospital is the only place I have actually seen kindles being used.

And yeah, post-surgery is the perfect time for something like this. If I knew I were going to be spending a lot of time in hosptial then I'd consider getting one. Same with holidays. I'm not the person that goes away for weeks at a time though. My leave time and holiday money gets spend on going to a bunch of gigs and music festivals around the year, I (generally) dislike beach holidays and similar jaunts.

I used to get annoyed by carrying around multiple CD's or tapes used before the MP3 players came out. I never really find myself having to carry around more than one book though. If I did then I'd probably be all over these E-readers.

The spleen in a top hat kicks ass. Tuffy, you could have put that in a gallery , sold it for a few grand.

Its also greatnwhen you're reading a series and want the next book and cheaper to buy new releases than hard covers. Fantasic for laying by the pool and much less strain on your wrist to use.

Good for you who has a pool heh. I generally don't read outside. (Combo of nocturnal lifestyle and the fact that if you read outside in England, chances are you're gonna get wet)

Also if I'm into a series then I'm probably wanting any new releases for my book shelf anyway.

I have no idea why I'm debating this, I'm not actually opposed to E-readers at all. Just doesn't suit me. I guess I'm bored.

Those adverts still sucked though.

I do most of my reading commuting. Kindle has been awesome for that.

Interestingly, most of the other Kindle users I've seen on the bus have been elderly.

My mother's husband (70's) just got himself a Nook. Seems the older folks are really grabbing onto the concept of the ereader.

We get a lot of older people asking about them/buying e-readers where I work. One of the main selling points seems to be that they can enlarge the size of the type, and like Melody said, they're a lot easier on your wrists.

I want a Kindle but i wouldn't toss my old books for it. One little mistake and you lose your whole library with a Kindle. It happens with cellphones all the time, what's the difference, really?

If you don't care about collecting books, and I'm going to guess that 99% of readers don't, Kindle rules. Personally, I never cared what edition or printing my books were and I've never gone out of my way to get a book signed. If you like the material aspect of owning books, then by all means keep buying them while you still can.

I take my Kindle everywhere and my reading has increased by roughly 300% since I got mine because it is convenient for me.

You can have your cake and eat it, too. I'm always going to go to bookstores and buy whatever strikes my fancy, and I'm always going to buy my favorite authors' books as soon as they're published (I have pretty much every Stephen King ever, in hardback). Since I got my Kindle for Christmas, I haven't gotten rid of a single one of my printed books, but I definitely read a LOT more than I did before (and I've always been a voracious reader, so that's saying a lot).

What kind of mistake are you referring to? Even if you don't back them up to a hard drive (I do, because I put other documents on there as well), all your purchases are in the cloud and replaceable at any time, even to a new device.

Yeah, anything you purchase from amazon is instantly downloadable. So who cares if you erase it? Anything else you put there you should have on your computer or in your e-mail.

Another reason I'm betting old folks love them is they have realized that collecting books is a cumbersome hobby. They pile up and they don't know what to do with them anymore. I have several friends in their 60s who have let me go through their books and take what I want. They simply don't have room for them anymore.

Those commercials are inane, but most commercials are.

I love my kindle, but it hasn't replaced physical books for me. I think the most annoying thing about the kindle is that I can't loan books out. Right now, I'm reading "The Tiger: A True Story of Vengeance and Survival' by John Vaillant on kindle and I regret not buying the physical book instead because it's a book I'd loan to at least three people. As it is, I bought a hardcover copy for my Dad which is going on loan to one of my brothers after he's read it.

I especially like being able to read the first chapter of a book on kindle before buying it so that browsing experience is still there for me.

Next up for me was going to be 'The Red Market: On the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, and Child Traffickers' by Scott Carney which is $12.99 on kindle, but I got a copy for $5 including shipping off ebay, so I went with that version instead since I have lots to read while I wait for it to arrive and I'm thrifty like that. It looks like a loaner too.

The convenience of kindle is huge for me, as are the environmental benefits. I would support a kindle commercial that stressed that we don't have to kill so many trees and use so much energy to produce & transport physical books.

I'm surprised they haven't done this yet.

With the nook, if you have a friend with one, you can loan him books for 2 weeks I think. I know you can loan, I just don't remember the time frame. And I'm not sure if that option is available with every book.

Yep, same with kindle, 14 days, too, but it's not available with every book.

Yeah now that you mention it, its perfect for that. I live near the gulf and in the wake of a huge oil spill that we're still getting over, people would jump all over that kind of commercial. As opposed to this crap.

yes,

sad to see bookstores closing because all the assholes buying ebooks

LITERATURE IS DYING! NOBODY BUYS BOOKS ANYMORE!

Oh, wait. More books are being sold now than anyone can remember thanks to ebooks.

ARGUMENT DEMOLISHED!

PRAISE THE COCK.

the giant orange cock?