The new Hard Rock Cafe ad campaign makes a comic of the death of Eric Clapton's son

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this is the most tastelessly great thing I've seen since Dan the Hand-Fart Man performed this song at karaoke doing hand-farts for the instrumental part.

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Wow.

Just.

Wow.

*Is that Daniel Clowes? <3

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i was gonna say this also is a pretty amazing rip-off of chris ware's style. though i guess it could be him, but i don't think so...

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the layout of that one is a little hard to negotiate. i'm left with the impression that his son died from an errant bolt of lightening.

this one is easier to follow:

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Dere iz no heroins in dat pitcher!

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i'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find it!

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*gasp*

Bad Kitteh!

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i think this is disgusting.

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he's a piece of shit racist. he also ruins the blues.

THAT BEING SAID

newsflash: hard rock cafe is tasteless & exploitative in its quest to sell nachos & t-shirts that have nothing to do with music to dumb tourists. details at 11.

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In response to his comments, rock photographer Red Saunders and others published an open letter in NME, Melody Maker, Sounds and the Socialist Worker. It read "Come on Eric... Own up. Half your music is black. You're rock music's biggest colonist". It also concluded, "P.S. Who shot the Sheriff, Eric? It sure as hell wasn't you!"[97]

Hehe.
I like this response.

What an asshole.

I did go to Hard Rock Cafe once in Melbourne.

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"He ruins the blues" : exactly.
What a fecking no talent.

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I don't think Clapton's talentless. I don't like his music, but he can play the guitar, a lot better than most of us here no doubt.

The comic's incredibly crass though.

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However you feel about Clapton, the man lost his son. And, if I remember right, he was so distraught after that he basically became a recluse for a while.

So, to cover up the fact that their food isn't that good and ridiculously overpriced, the Hard Rock Cafe wants to exploit someone else's tragedy to sell a couple more souvenir t-shirts? I'm sure Clapton didn't give his OK. Scumbags. Someone deserves a beating for this.

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I don't think Clapton's talentless. I don't like his music, but he can play the guitar, a lot better than most of us here no doubt.

The comic's incredibly crass though.

QFT.

Clapton is also a renowned asshole, accusations of racism aside.

I suspect he did sign-off on the ad; the guy has made a mint off that one tragic event.

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Well then the Hard Rock Cafe should take the high road--do a 'story behind every song' on something less shocking/contoversial and more light-hearted and entertaining... like Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?

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I've never been to a Hard Rock. They got potatoe skins?

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dbdurden wrote:
Well then the Hard Rock Cafe should take the high road--do a 'story behind every song' on something less shocking/contoversial and more light-hearted and entertaining... like Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?

Isn't She-Bop about masturbation? I'm sure a comic based upon that assumption would actually cause more controversy than this Clapton business.

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The only Hard Rock Cafe I've been to was the Moscow one. It was a weird experience, obviously.

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I've been to the Niagra Falls one: long line, the food was not much better than an Applebee's or Friday's, and very expensive (I'm a dollar menu kind of guy). I wouldn't go again.

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I'm offended on many levels.

Clapton racist: I'm not having it.

Clapton talentless: please listen properly to him play. You don't like the recent stuff then listen to the Yardbirds.

Clapton ruins the blues: again I direct you to the Bluesbreakers, the Yardbirds and the album EC was here. These days its a less angry blues, but every note is in its place. The tone is sensational, his taste is beautiful, there's honesty in his playing.

"Clapton is a renowned asshole": renowned by whom? I only ever heard stories of consideration, humbleness and charity.

The comic: what bothers me most is that bottle of vodka next to the funeral images. He'd been sober long before Connor's death, and dealt with it sober.

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cnicholso wrote:
I'm offended on many levels.

As well you should be.

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Clapton racist: I'm not having it.

Clapton denies that he is a racist. He also maintains that non-whites should be removed from Britain. He continues to maintain that politician Enoch Powell was correct in his race-hatred and anti-immigrant stance. Clapton also states that he knows nothing about politics and that regular people shouldn't listen to rock stars for their political opinions. You figure him out. Clearly the man is fucked-up in several ways.

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Clapton talentless: please listen properly to him play. You don't like the recent stuff then listen to the Yardbirds.

Personally, I thought he ruined the Yardbirds. I don't care for his body of work, but I wouldn't call him "talentless" myself.

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Clapton ruins the blues: again I direct you to the Bluesbreakers, the Yardbirds and the album EC was here. These days its a less angry blues, but every note is in its place. The tone is sensational, his taste is beautiful, there's honesty in his playing.

Personal aside. I'd much rather hear music where every note isn't in its proper place. Tastes differ.

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"Clapton is a renowned asshole": renowned by whom? I only ever heard stories of consideration, humbleness and charity.

Session musicians, venue staff, industry people I've known over the years. Just your basic rock star assholery. Nothing like announcing onstage in front of a few thousand people that Britain was meant for whites only.

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The comic: what bothers me most is that bottle of vodka next to the funeral images. He'd been sober long before Connor's death, and dealt with it sober.

I don't know shit about the writing of the song or the aftermath of Connor Clapton's death. The comic is in poor taste. Interesting that an ad making light of a baby's death doesn't bother you as much as the implication that EC might have had a drink or two.

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Clapton ruins the blues: again I direct you to the Bluesbreakers, the Yardbirds and the album EC was here. These days its a less angry blues, but every note is in its place. The tone is sensational, his taste is beautiful, there's honesty in his playing.

Personal aside. I'd much rather hear music where every note isn't in its proper place. Tastes differ.

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"Clapton is a renowned asshole": renowned by whom? I only ever heard stories of consideration, humbleness and charity.

Session musicians, venue staff, industry people I've known over the years. Just your basic rock star assholery. Nothing like announcing onstage in front of a few thousand people that Britain was meant for whites only.

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The comic: what bothers me most is that bottle of vodka next to the funeral images. He'd been sober long before Connor's death, and dealt with it sober.

I don't know shit about the writing of the song or the aftermath of Connor Clapton's death. The comic is in poor taste. Interesting that an ad making light of a baby's death doesn't bother you as much as the implication that EC might have had a drink or two.

- On notes in their proper places, those weren't my words or meaning. But I was not clear. Music's tough to write about. What I feel in his playing is a sense that each note is chosen, there's rarely a spare or wasted note or a carelessly played note. Of course there are his standard licks that he throws out there, but alongside those are carefully selected and played notes. I feel like he's hearing the note he wants and playing it. These days he's not a flash player, but he is an emotive player. I saw him play with Steve Winwood a couple of years back in a fairly wanky concert at Madisson Square Gardens in front of a corporate audience, but there were still moments when he closed his eyes and there was a genuine care and honesty in his solos. That's what I was lazily hinting at.

There's no proper place for a note, but there's the note and the place that a musician wants it. And when he's at his best Clapton's choices move me.

- The asshole stuff, fair enough. You've heard different from me. My anecdotes have been from his neighbours and people who have had non-professional contact with him. They've all said he's sound - fairly quiet, will donate a guitar to a cause and open a village fete.

- No way am I weighing up two things and saying I find this fine, but this bothers me. I'm saying that image hit me. There's a million moral judgments to be made, but what hit me hard is that a person's grief is entirely personal. That's his experience of his son's death. A crude assumption that he handled his grief in a way that he didn't upset me. How dare anyone make any assumption about anyone else's grief with a lazy image.

NB - I'm going by his autobiography, not first hand EC knowledge.

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Interesting that an ad making light of a baby's death doesn't bother you as much as the implication that EC might have had a drink or two.

Firstly, that's a very cheap and offensive way for you to try to score a point. Secondly, that's not the implication.

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Eric Clapton threw his son out that window!

Like a bag of trash!

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Interesting that an ad making light of a baby's death doesn't bother you as much as the implication that EC might have had a drink or two.

Firstly, that's a very cheap and offensive way for you to try to score a point. Secondly, that's not the implication.

Admittedly a cheap shot, and not meant to be taken seriously, of course, but it does appear to be what you wrote.

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The comic: what bothers me most is that bottle of vodka next to the funeral images. He'd been sober long before Connor's death, and dealt with it sober.

I'm just ribbing you, not trying to start an argument. All in fun, G.

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Interesting that an ad making light of a baby's death doesn't bother you as much as the implication that EC might have had a drink or two.

Firstly, that's a very cheap and offensive way for you to try to score a point. Secondly, that's not the implication.

Admittedly a cheap shot, and not meant to be taken seriously, of course, but it does appear to be what you wrote.

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The comic: what bothers me most is that bottle of vodka next to the funeral images. He'd been sober long before Connor's death, and dealt with it sober.

I'm just ribbing you, not trying to start an argument. All in fun, G.

It worked. Wound me up you bastard.

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I'm not a Clapton fan by any means, I think that his version of the blues is fairly watered down and without any real feeling, whatever technical prowess he may have as a guitarist. If I'm going to listen to white guy blues I prefer Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac, and even then it's still not really my cup of tea. Also, you're really using the Bluesbreakers as a Clapton reference point? He was barely in the band for a year. He's only on the one album, and it's more as a featured guitarist than anything else. I suppose you could consider it a highlight because his strength really is playing as opposed to writing/composing...

All of that said, I think this advertisement is in very poor taste. I would really like to know if he's seen it and what he thinks of it, because if it were me I would be very upset.

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Clapton talentless: please listen properly to him play. You don't like the recent stuff then listen to the Yardbirds.

I have no time to waste listening to crap. Clapton approached all of the legends of the blues alive in the 1960s and his music is as soulless as a tax declaration. That's proof enough for me.
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Clapton ruins the blues: again I direct you to the Bluesbreakers, the Yardbirds and the album EC was here. These days its a less angry blues, but every note is in its place. The tone is sensational, his taste is beautiful, there's honesty in his playing.

The guy learned to play like a good school pupil. He didn't even understand that the blues has nothimg to do with playing the guitar or taste or honesty.
Look up Cedell Davis. He plays with a kitchen knife because his hands are deformed by polio and he is constantly out of tune, but there is more blues in any single of his chords that any of Sir Eric's cleanly produced LPs.
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The first Hard Rock "memorabilia" was a Clapton guitar.

He has traditionally been a very frequent customer of this franchise and I wouldn't doubt that he even owns a stake in the company.

Considering the bucketloads of money he made off the death of his son ("Tears in Heaven" - nominated for 9 Grammys), I doubt he is terribly averse to utilizing the event for financial gain. I'm sure he gave his approval.

Yeah it's a fucking tasteless ad. It's also fucking tasteless for him to publically despise and malign the people who created the musical style he aspires to... and furthermore, to pointedly refuse to apologize for it.

He's still a piece of shit, in my book.

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lofivinyl wrote:

Kate totally made this one up.

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that's the best one yet!

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Fuck.

Just.

Fuck.

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