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wasnt he in 8mm? i remember that being ok. saw it at the perfect time, when you could find anyone doing anything on kazaa. maybe that made it better than it really was, i dont know.

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wasnt he in 8mm? i remember that being ok. saw it at the perfect time, when you could find anyone doing anything on kazaa. maybe that made it better than it really was, i dont know.

he was and it did. because it stunk. But I blame that more on joel schumaker. mainly because that guy doesn't get nearly enough shit dumped on him as he deserves.
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I don't dislike Cage, but he does deserve to be typecast. I liked 8mm, but I saw it around the same time as Atomos. That was around the time I discovered Faces of Death.

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But I blame that more on joel schumaker. mainly because that guy doesn't get nearly enough shit dumped on him as he deserves.

Leave Schumacher alone. The guy made Lost Boys and Flatliners!

One of those movies is more then enough to make up for two shitty Batman flicks.

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the only reason I don't wish joel schumaker had never been born is because he made DC Cab.
As it is, I just wish someone had assassinated him in 1992 or something.

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Come on ! Raising Arizona, Face/Off, Windtalkers ! Those were cool !

+ 1. Raising Arizona is so wonderful

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the only reason I don't wish joel schumaker had never been born is because he made DC Cab.
As it is, I just wish someone had assassinated him in 1992 or something.

I liked Falling Down (with Michael Douglas) a lot.
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Vampire's Kiss, Moonstruck, Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona, Adaptation, Face/Off, Matchstick Men, and recently Bad Lieutenant: New Orleans. I don't care how classic the original was, Nic Cage was cracked out and batshit crazy in the new one and it was fucking awesome.

He has made some damn good films.

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He has made some damn good films.

Sure he's been in some damn good films but I'm sure he didn't make them.

I had to be a smartass Unsure
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nathaniel parker wrote:
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But I blame that more on joel schumaker. mainly because that guy doesn't get nearly enough shit dumped on him as he deserves.

Leave Schumacher alone. The guy made Lost Boys and Flatliners!

One of those movies is more then enough to make up for two shitty Batman flicks.


hey if you scroll up, i never mentioned joel shumacher. someone just edited my post, or mistakenly typed inside of a post of mine they were quoting.
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Has no one seen Adaptation? He was nominated for an Oscar, you know.

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I saw it. it was okay but I was underwhelmed overall.
now you wanna talk about good ones he's done, howzabout that Amos & Andrew!

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He has made some damn good films.

Sure he's been in some damn good films but I'm sure he didn't make them.

I had to be a smartass Unsure

No idea why I said made Smile

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I liked him in The Weatherman and Adaptation. He was so good in the latter that I actually forgot he was in it. Rather than getting a giant image of Nick Cage when I think of the movie, like I do when I think of all his other movies, I actually think of orchids.

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audreythirteen wrote:
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He has made some damn good films.

Sure he's been in some damn good films but I'm sure he didn't make them.

I had to be a smartass Unsure

No idea why I said made :)


well, of all the good films he has been in, a lot of what made them good was him. So, in a sense, he made them good! voila'!
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nathaniel parker wrote:
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Jack Parsons wrote:

He has made some damn good films.

Sure he's been in some damn good films but I'm sure he didn't make them.

I had to be a smartass Unsure

No idea why I said made :)


well, of all the good films he has been in, a lot of what made them good was him. So, in a sense, he made them good! voila'!

I still am not convinced that Nic Cage could make a film good. I can accept that he is perfect for specific roles I just can't get pass the horrors of the past few years that is Nic Cage. Pretty much every time I see a new trailer with him cast I want to Bangkok and not in a good sense.

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Con Air. Classic.

I think he's been in a ton of great movies. Maybe he isn't the best actor in the world, but he sure has been a part of some fine things. Adaptation, Matchstick Men, Lord of War, Weather Man, Raising Arizona, The Rock, Kick Ass. Come on.

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I know I've seen it. I know Nic Cage is in it. But I honestly don't remember a thing about Snake Eyes. I think it takes place in Vegas.

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I like that movie. I just finally saw it all the way through recently.

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ha i love how they link you to the worst actor of his generation article Wow!

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oh God. not a Ghost Rider 2....

and is the video in the worst actor of his generation piece gone or is it just not showing up for me for some reason?

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yeah i don't know it didn't show up for me either. it must really be bad haha.

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oh God. not a Ghost Rider 2....

Yeah, but this one is being done by the guys who did the Crank films, so there's a chance it could be good.

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there's a chance it could be good.

Cage isn't going to be in it then?

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oh God. not a Ghost Rider 2....

Yeah, but this one is being done by the guys who did the Crank films, so there's a chance it could be good.


That's good for if you want your film to look pretty good and have some kick-ass fight and action scenes. Which is what the Crank films were. Don't get me wrong. I LOVED both Crank films, but story is not the centerpiece for them.
Ghost Rider should have some kind of storytelling in it. I don't know why, when they made the first film, they didn't just use the story from the GR relaunch back in 92. That had a great story that gave you a cool origin and some real motivation behind all the characters and a well-defined purpose for the Ghost Rider PLUS it had all the kick-ass fight and action scenes you could want.
Even though he's kinda old now, I could still buy Nic Cage as Dan Ketch. Oh well.
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Nicholas Cage: Man of a Million Hairstyles

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Nicolas Cage sucks.

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You, madame, are in the entirely wrong thread.

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I watched the end of Astro Boy today. It was hard to enjoy since I could only picture Cage's retard face while the CGI character was speaking. Also Nathan Lane was hard to miss...it was rather annoying.

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Nicolas Cage is kind of the same person in every single film. Except for Raising Arizona - which I must admit is very good.

But um, it also bothers me that his name is missing an 'H' I feel like it should be 'Nicholas' and not 'Nicolas'.

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Did I all ready pop in here and mention how much I hate Nicholas Cage? Cause I really really do.

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I'm not cranky, I'm just feeling extra sardonic tonight.

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I'm not cranky, I'm just feeling extra sardonic tonight.


WHY SO SERIOSE?


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As for Adaptation, it's been noted (on IMDB and other places) that Cage went against his better judgement and let Jonze direct him fully, only doing hwat he was told, not doing what he wanted. In other words, NEVER LET THIS MAN IMPROVISE EVER.

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I'd save Windtalkers and Kiss of Death from the rubbish zone and also put Face/Off higher.

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I'd move 8mm up.

That chart illustrates exactly why I don't know what to think of Nic.

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This is one of my all time favorites...

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Wild at heart and Raising Arizona were his best.

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I don't think this deserves it's own thread...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20482747,00.html?xid=rss-fullcon...

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I don't think this deserves it's own thread...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20482747,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontent

It fits here...
The brilliance is that Dog the Bounty Hunter bailed him out of jail.

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This is one of my all time favorites...


holy hell, i'd forgotten about this. the scene where the thrashes the ambulance deserves some kind of reward/award
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