Spazrock

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kloopper
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I donno what to call this, so Ill call it spazrock

Don Caballero
Hella
Lightning Bolt
Melt Banana
Fantomas
Naked City
Flying Luttenbachers
US Maple

Know what Im talking about?

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Eh, some of those arent spazrock per se, just with elements of spaz.

Im listening to storm and stress right now, Chicago/New York experimental rock trio Storm & Stress is electric guitarist and singer Ian Williams (of Don Caballero), drummer Kevin Shea and bassist Erich Ehm (of Golan Globus). like soft spazrock.
plus theyre on touch and go WOOHPAW thats cool.

On Under Thunder and Fluorescent Lights, Storm & Stress takes minimalism as its mantra, offering nine tracks full of nothing but odd instrumental chatter, askew tape samples, and the occasional (and equally odd and askew) vocal. The band seems determined to never let the mishmash of sounds congeal into anything that resembles an ordinary song: Ian Williams picks idly at his guitar, Erich Emm drops random bass notes, Kevin Shea's drum beats disintegrate as quickly as they begin; lyrics, rhythm, and melody are abandoned in favor of "avant rock" — free jazz done by a power trio. The payoff — and not a big payoff, mind you — comes only if you listen closely enough. Groove and melody begin to pop up where you hadn't thought they existed and in ways you wouldn't expect: the repetitive shimmer of a cymbal, some garbled a cappella singing. At its worst, Under Thunder is just noise, albeit noise that's as tepid and inoffensive as a Windham Hill sampler. Williams, Emm, and Shea and are obviously talented musicians, and you have to respect that they take the subtle route, piling texture upon texture instead of showing off their chops. It's just too bad that the result is far too cerebral for most people's tastes

This garbled cacophony of untamed genius wanders the blurred line between coherence and unheard-of creativity. Musical pieces progress without fully conceived ideas of rhythm, time, melody, or any remotely obvious form of construction. Everything here seems fleeting, improvisational, and therefore, in some way, directly from the inside of these amazing musicians (two-thirds of whom now make up the undeniably amazing Don Caballero). Guitar lines vomit and squirt from the prodigious hands of one of the greatest guitarists of our time, Ian Williams. The percussion erupts in spurts of mad ranting that is spaced and cut-throat. Incorporating foreign elements such as the breaking of bottles and the lighting of a cigarette, it often seems to be emerging from a totally different room than that which the rest of the band occupies. Sporadically, the band locks into glorious meshes of coordinated sound with deadly precise rhythm and beautifully intertwined melodies; this, however, never lasts for too long. The muttered, half-spoken, half-sung vocals of Ian Williams creep into the fabric of the music, reciting far-gone abstraction that in some way captures the essence of the band around him. Storm and Stress is doing something until now untouched, taking the logistics of everything we know about music and crushing them into spattered stains upon the walls and floor.

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hmm illl take a guess cuz live their fuckin spazzmatics

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Yesh! I don't like em, but yes, spazzy plus.

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I really dig Melt Banana.

What I do, is I adopt bands from certian 'genres' and thats all I need from that 'genre'.

For Example: All I need is at the drive-in, I don't need their 'brothers and sisters in guitar driven pathetic mayhem'.

I got KMFDM, so I don't need like PIG and Ministry or any of that shit.

And so on.

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Melt Banana is ok. Neil Perry is God.

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KMFDM sucks. Foetus, Coil, Godflesh much better.

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I think I did the cute Meglomania of KMFDM. The oldest KMFDM is terrible.

Like Vogue and Don't Blow Your Top, those bite the big one.

But songs like Meglomaniac, Preach / Pervert make me shoot goo.

I think I only like Skold-era KMFDM.

Godflesh has some good tunes.
Coil / Foetus makes me cringe.

I like metalness, but only to a point.

I would throw The Dismemberment Plan into this Spazrock Mix.

Kinda. Songs like 'Bra' fit the mold of Spazrockness.

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Coil was boring. At least what I heard.

Will download Foetus & Godflesh, though.

Don't think I've heard any spazzrock that I actually like yet. I want to like it, but I dunno, it gets annoying/boring quick.

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i just found out the locust are playing w/ the yeah yeah yeahs in detroit. that will be...interesting.

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LOCCCCCCCCCCCUST!!!!!!

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The stuff you're referring to is often called "math rock", not spaz rock. The term spaz rock sounds like a buzzword that you made up. These are all math bands.

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nice avatar adversary

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you mean math metal? i heard that stuff is good but never checked it out, someone said mudvayne is math metal but i don't believe it cause they suck so much

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FUCK THE TRIANGLE!

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]The stuff you're referring to is often called "math rock", not spaz rock. The term spaz rock sounds like a buzzword that you made up. These are all math bands. [/B][/QUOTE] hahahhahahahha

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i agree with klopper

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by small_fire [/i]
[B]i agree with klopper [/B][/QUOTE]

Right, laugh at me for saying "math rock": a term widely accepted among many a scene, yet klopper is fine in your book for using the term "spazrock" :rolleyes: .

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i laugh at your definition of mathrock and the bands that you use to define it.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by small_fire [/i]
[B]i laugh at your definition of mathrock and the bands that you use to define it. [/B][/QUOTE]

Please then, define math rock. All the bands mentioned use odd time signatures with wreckless abandon and pride themselves on stopping and starting and playing syncopated rhythms. Sounds mathy enough to me and just about anyone else you might discuss this subject with.

EDIT: I use the term "all" loosely. Obviously bands like Naked City are grind/jazz and Melt Banana is just weird Japanese girls, but the term "spazrock" never existed before this thread, and these bands certainly don't fit the definition. I mean, Lightning Bolt is just really happy.

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math rock is meshugga is shit.

spaz is jerky hyper music, which fits all the bands i named. what definition are you talking about?

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I think Adversary is right...

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kl0pper [/i]
[B]math rock is meshugga is shit.

spaz is jerky hyper music, which fits all the bands i named. what definition are you talking about? [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, to clarify, Meshuggah is thrash metal. Like disx said, I think (I'm) right! Honestly, Don Caballero = spazzy?????

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yeah
whatever, it's just names.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kl0pper [/i]
[B]yeah
whatever, it's just names. [/B][/QUOTE]

Precisely, which was what my first post was about anyhow!

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I like one song by Lightning Bolt. Everyone of their songs sound the same to me though, and that's too much of the same for me.

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Like Stupide definitions? Here is one from one of my favorite mp3 sites.

Math Rock
Take the intricacy and complexity of classic weirdo hard rock bands like Rush and Voivod, then add some of punk's hyperspasmodic schizophrenia, and you'll have a legitimate math rock contender. Math rock bands take pleasure in being erratic and unpredictable, often experimenting with peculiar tempos and jazz-derived rhythms while keeping the rock hard and aggressive all the while. Their lyrics tend to be as cerebral and expertly designed as their songs. These bands are rock's architects of the future, recrafting and reinventing the genre's tired song structures.

[url]http://www.epitonic.com/genres/mathrock.html[/url]

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ok that definition of math rock fits what i call spazrock.

pottydawg is good.

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klopper you should listen to Crotchduster.

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the boredoms are awesome

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searching crotchduster

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