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They have completely overlooked Forrest Gump ever since 1994! What the hell, Academy? That was a pretty good movie.

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also, how many Oscars are they up to now, 87-88? I think when they get to 100 they ought to do an Academy Awards for best of the Century in all the categories.

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these are all pretty bad picks.
in any other year, all of these movies would easily be overlooked
thats all i have to say

Horse shit.

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Well, he has a point.

Black Swan: Not Best Picture worthy; hopefully wouldn't get nominated during a good year.
True Grit: Typical Coen Brothers; would probably be nominated any given year.
127 Hours: Danny Boyle's name attached to a ho-hum story about an idiot who was forced to cut off his arm because he's an idiot.
The Kids are All Right: Doesn't look very good, heard the script was pretty bad, and was a bit surprised to hear it was nominated.
The King's Speech: Looks like a typical Oscar-bait type.
The Fighter: Haven't seen it, haven't seen any commercials for it, but the cast feels like one of those hand-picked-for-winning-Oscars type.
Inception: Entertaining; probably nominated-able during any given year, but not Best Picture worthy.
The Social Network: Again, a good movie but not something that would typically be looked at as Best Picture worthy during a good year.
Toy Story 3: Heard really good things about, but same as Social Network or Inception.
Winter's Bone: Heard it's great, but it doesn't strike me as Oscar-worthy during a particularly good year.

So, a lot of that is speculation of course because I haven't watched them, but nothing jumps out at me as belonging on a Top 10 of the Decade list, you know?

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RandomStranger wrote:
Well, he has a point.

Black Swan: Not Best Picture worthy; hopefully wouldn't get nominated during a good year.
127 Hours: Danny Boyle's name attached to a ho-hum story about an idiot who was forced to cut off his arm because he's an idiot.
Inception: ... probably nominated-able during any given year...
The Social Network: Again, a good movie but not something that would typically be looked at as Best Picture worthy during a good year.

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alex: i saw the fighter, thinking it would be the only good movie of the year. the dirt on this is its your typical middle child story. marky mark is constantly overlooked by his family, and his half-wit-has-been-crack-head brother is still seen as the great white hope. the problem is, the movie is so much more about his family than him, that his role feels more like that of a supporting actor to bale's pipe sucking loser.

the performances arent bad, i guess. but this is a movie that would be nominated to fill out the category in any other year. it delivers none of the drama promised in the theater, and plays out more like a malcolm in the middle reunion show ten years from now.

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Really surprised that The Kids Are Alright is generating any kind of hype. It sounds cloying, and the synopsis reads like any number of other family centered comedy-dramas, except that it's a couple with two women rather than a hetero couple. But then again, I guess 2010 was a pretty big year for gay rights.

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Has anyone that's given an opinion on The Kids Are Alright actually SEEN the movie?

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I won't watch it because I keep thinking it's a new Kids in the Hall movie and then it's not one. Fuck that movie.

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I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and watch it fresh, but that's no problem with a 94% on rotten tomatoes. Also, I just realized I've been spelling the title wrong. Apparently the kids aren't necessarily fine, but they are correct.

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Liberum69 wrote:
Has anyone that's given an opinion on The Kids Are Alright actually SEEN the movie?

I have and if you don't mind some mild spoilers here is what is wrong with it.
1) It's just not that funny. The jokes on the film just make the characters come off as rude and selfish. If this was a character drama I would've had no problems with this but it's marketed as a comedy.
2) The script seems half-assed and underdeveloped. The biggest problem is that its clear to be pushing an agenda.
3) The kids aren't giving as much characterization than the adults and the kids friends are worse than cliches. The subplots dealing with these characters just don't work.
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4) The biggest problem to me though is the treatment of Mark Ruffalos character. When the affair between his character and Julianne Moores character is revealed it spends the rest of the film presenting Moores character sympathetically and trying to make the audience forgive her while they make Ruffalos character the villain.
5) The relationship between Moores and Annette Benings characters is supposed to bad, it makes sense whay Moores character would sleep with Ruffalos. But for them to essentially reconcile when Benings character was total bitch through the entire film doesn't.

On a side the acting is all around fantastic and makes the film watchable despite the weak script.

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No nominations for Enter the Void? Horseshit!

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Whaaaat. Start watching movies, Tuffy!

Yeah... Gonna need an extra couple hours in a day for that.

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Best PIcture:
Black Swan - good but not best
True Grit - great and refreshing!
127 Hours - Pretty good
The Kids are All Right - gay.. just kidding, it was good.
The King's Speech - I give it th-th-th-th-thr-thr-thr.. four out of five.
The Fighter - good.
Inception - Really great but just under True Grit. Or, to be honest, just as good.
The Social Network - I liked it more than I thought, but it should never win or all is too dumb.
Toy Story 3 - WT??
Winter's Bone - Haven't seen.

SO: TRUE GRIT!!!!

Best Actor:
Javier Bardem in "Biutiful" (Roadside Attractions) - Haven't seen.
Jeff Bridges in "True Grit" (Paramount) - Great!
Jesse Eisenberg in "The Social Network" (Sony Pictures Releasing) - Good
Colin Firth in "The King's Speech" (The Weinstein Company) - Great!
James Franco in "127 Hours" (Fox Searchlight) - Good

This is a 50/50 bet from me between Jeff Bridges and Colin Firth.

Best Supporting Actor:
Christian Bale in "The Fighter" (Paramount) - Great!
John Hawkes in "Winter's Bone" (Roadside Attractions) - Haven't seen
Jeremy Renner in "The Town" (Warner Bros.) - Good
Mark Ruffalo in "The Kids Are All Right" (Focus Features) - Good
Geoffrey Rush in "The King's Speech" (The Weinstein Company) - Great

If Colin doesn't win I hope Geoffrey will.

Best Actress:
Annette Bening in "The Kids Are All Right" (Focus Features) - Good/Great
Nicole Kidman in "Rabbit Hole" (Lionsgate) - Haven't seen
Jennifer Lawrence in "Winter's Bone" (Roadside Attractions) - Haven't seen
Natalie Portman in "Black Swan" (Fox Searchlight) - Good/Great
Michelle Williams in "Blue Valentine" (The Weinstein Company) - Haven't seen

Have no idea Sad

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Adams in "The Fighter" (Paramount) - Good
Helena Bonham Carter in "The King's Speech" (The Weinstein Company) - Good
Melissa Leo in "The Fighter" (Paramount) - Good
Hailee Steinfeld in "True Grit" (Paramount) - Whaaaaaaaaaaaat??? She's the lead idiots!! And she's superb!!!!!!
Jacki Weaver in "Animal Kingdom" (Sony Pictures Classics) - Haven't seen

Hailee Stenfeld - but it's unfair to the others since her role was the lead role.

Best Director
Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky - Good/Great
The Fighter - David O. Russell - Great
The King's Speech - Tom Hooper - Great
The Social Network - David Fincher - Great
True Grit - Joel Coen and Ethan Coen - Great

COEN!!!!!!!!

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Kings Speech won best director at the Directors Guild awards. Thats only strayed from the Oscar winners like 6 times... Sad Fincher has to win!

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We watched The Social Network last night and it was just meh to me.

It was a good movie, just don't think it is OSCAR worthy. I'll be alright if I never watch it again.

True Grit, though...that movie kicks ass all over the place. So does 127 Hours.

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Looks like Bale picked up the SAG Best Supporting Actor award. 2 down, 1 to go...

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How great would it be if True Grit wins the MTV Movie Award for Best Kiss with that one bit where the dude is all like "If you want to kiss the body that would be alright" but she doesn't kiss him! It would be so ironic!

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DukeBrazi wrote:

Hailee Steinfeld in "True Grit" (Paramount) - Whaaaaaaaaaaaat??? She's the lead idiots!! And she's superb!!!!!!

Think of it this way: If she was nominated for Best Actress, she wouldn't stand a chance.

This way she has a better chance of winning. Her only competition is Melissa Leo.

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DukeBrazi wrote:

Hailee Steinfeld in "True Grit" (Paramount) - Whaaaaaaaaaaaat??? She's the lead idiots!! And she's superb!!!!!!

Think of it this way: If she was nominated for Best Actress, she wouldn't stand a chance.

This way she has a better chance of winning. Her only competition is Melissa Leo.

True, I was a bit too drunk yesterday posting that.. (and I don't think Melissa Leo is competition, she was really good but Hailee's performance was really outstanding, something that's only happening a few times per career even counting the acting legends)

And who knows, a leading role Oscar (or supporting) might mess her up for good, but I find it very weird that her performance is considered a supporting role. The story is told in her perspective and her character could even have chosen someone else to guide her. etc. etc.

I watched the older one too, with John Wayne and sure, that movie felt a bit more like he was the main character, maybe that got inherited.

And I really love how the Coens always put their distinct humour into every movie they do. Like the hanging scene. Brutal and dark, but really funny!

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I have a problem with the ending of True Grit because after identifying with this character the whole movie we are thrown 25 years in the future to a grown woman we don't know to see her travel to see a man who is dead when she gets there. So she lost her arm and she never saw the dudes again. What kind of conclusion is that? I don't understand the point of seeing her grown when we don't really get the chance to learn anything about her adult self. To me, a better ending would have been to have him watch her lose her arm and maybe she is half waking as he leaves. and maybe Damon's character shows up to check on her. He was left without a horse and needing medical attention. It follows logically that he would end up where she was and that she would still be there because she wouldn't be well enough to travel yet. I don't know, I'm not a film maker, but that's what I think.

It was the ending that the novel had. The Coens wanted to keep this True Grit closer to the novel than the John Wayne version. They did a respectful job, though they did de-emphasize Hattie's character.

I'd like to see the girl from Winter's Bone get the Oscar. Without seeing The Swan, I'd say she definitely earned her place up there and after Hurt Locker last year, I'd say the indie films are a strong contender.

Also the supporting cast of Winter's Bone and The Fighter should be tied for ugliest/scariest supporting cast in a movie category.

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Colin Firth better win best actor. So better.

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Barely five awards in and I want to take a hammer to my TV.

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you too?

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Extremely pissed about Kings Speech winning Best Picture and Director. It really wasn't outstanding! Enjoyable, but not oscar worthy. However, Firth was amazing in it and he deserved to win. Haven't seen Black Swan yet so no opinions there.

Glad Bale got best supporting actor, thought he was amazing in that film and generally a great actor. Thought the True Grit girl would win best supporting. When watching The Fighter (Fantastic film) I didn't really notice her...

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Geoffrey Rush should've won Best Supporting Actor.

Blue Valentine should've won something too.

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After last year's nominations, I decided I'm never going to watch the Oscars again. While not saying they should have necessarily won, Dave Eggers & Spike Jones (Best adapted screenplay), Karen O. (song), and 500 days of Summer (anything?) were all kinda cheated.

Also, Fuck Avatar and Blind Side.

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