need some help with Requiem for a Dream

jared and his mom were left in a hospital, marlon was in prison and jennifer got her drugs. i didnt think there was any question to what happend, the end with the mom and the son was the moms dream from her hospital bed. the driver was from one of the other drug lords.

ohhhhh. se i thought marlon was in a worker ranch cause he got to sleep in his own bed not even ina cell or anythign. but do yo know why they put those electric shocks onto jareds mom?

because they thought she was crazy and thats what they do with crazy homeless people

Ok, I hope this helps, but if not, somebody else will explain. Here goes nothin'. Jennifer Connelly's character ended up whoring herself out for drugs. My conclusion was that she continues to do this. The movie doesn't give any information concerning whether she hits bottom and makes her way to the top again or not. Who knows? Maybe she dies 5 minutes after the movie ends.
Jarod's character probably ends up going to prison or something. Again, it's up to interpretation. My guess is that he's lost his arm permanently.
Marlon's character is at prison. Kind of a work camp prison.
The limo driver was a member of a rival gang. He capped the leader of the gang Marlon was associated with. They were probably feuding over drug selling and turf.
Jarod's mom ended up in electro-shock therapy (that's what the temple things were. I think they're used to just kind of scramble up some of the message centers in the brain, hoping to rearrange them so they're not quite so messed up, but all I know about this stems from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest [Kesey] and a Psych 101 class that I didn't pay attention in). What I got out of it was that she was so fucked up from speed that some of the switches and whatnot in her brain got rearranged so she was dependent on the drug. She couldn't function properly without the speed. She probably spent the rest of her days in the loony bin after the electro-therapy fried her brains out. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge of this form of medicine could answer this better.

shit really?i thought they stopped shock therapy back in the 50's

Holy shit. I started that when nobody had posted.

started what when no one posted what lol? i was writing a post while others were writing shit too

yeah rents im about to watch your movie soon!!!!!!!! or may go read Catcher and the Rye..or Invisible Monsters, dont know which

I started that when this thread was bare. I hit submit and suddenly there are three posts in front of me. You guys were carrying on a conversation and I'm just whittling away like Rain man or something.

There we go again, posting while I'm typing. Trainspotting's a great fuckin' movie, and if you can read dialect, it's an even better book.

p.s REQUIEM IS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING MOVIES EVER

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rents [/i]
[B]There we go again, posting while I'm typing. Trainspotting's a great fuckin' movie, and if you can read dialect, it's an even better book. [/B][/QUOTE]

lol ah ha ha ha ha

and yes it was quite an amazing flick, i loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove the camera techniques used where they mounted the camera on the shoulders of the actor to show their P.O.V. while still being able to show their reactions

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ariel [/i]
[B]p.s REQUIEM IS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING MOVIES EVER [/B][/QUOTE]

DAMN STRAIGHT.

Ever read the book? I haven't, but it's on my list.

i havnt either, i just made a list actualy of books to get, got 2 of em tonight and i cant stop listenning ot the theme from the song!!! so damn addicting

seriously. Which books did you get?

My List of Books to Get:
American Psycho - Bret Easton Ellis
Reasons to live - Amy Hempel
Stiffed: The betrayel of the American Man - Susan Faludi
Trainspotting, Porno - Irvine Welsh
28 Days Later - Alex Garland
A Feast of Snakes - Henry Crews
Requiem for a Dream - Hubert Selby Jr.
Catcher and the Rye - CHECK
Inivisible Monsters - CHECK

ones with checks are the ones i got tonight

whats on your list rents? you wanna know the oens i already got that arent on my list? (small but growing collection)

Trainspotting, American Psycho (VERY graphic, just to warn you), and Invisible Monsters are all excellent books. Catcher in the Rye, while everyone will tell you it's an amazing book, I didn't care for it too much. I'm a style man myself, and I just couldn't take the bantering of that kid. But still, it's a classic. I'm one of the few people on this site that don't like it. As for what's on my list, gee whiz, lemme think here. For now, I have a lot of the books I want, it's just a matter of finding the time to read them. To read: Glamorama (Ellis), On the Road (Kerouac), Crash (Ballard), Catch-22 (Heller), Brave New World (Huxley), Tomcat in Love (O'Brien), In the Lake of the Woods (O'Brien), and Crime and Punishment (Dostoevsky). Books that I'd like to buy (right off the top of my head) include Requiem for a Dream and Porn (as well as a few others by Welsh)

yeah i got all the Palahniuk books. a stir of echoes, cathcer and the rye, all the lord of the rings. tony hawk biography, and house of leaves

Who's A Stir of Echoes by? It sounds familiar and I'll probably punch myself once I hear the author's name.

oh shit whos it by hmm uhhhhhhhhhhh crap hold on a sec, its pretty good, i got half way thorugh it and stopped about a year ago i think. i tend to do that bit so i gotta start back up again....RICHARD MATHESON

i stopped with the tony hawk biography too. and i just started house of leaes. man i got a lotta reading to do

Yeah, I do that a lot too 'cause I read 5 or 6 books at a time, so sometimes I forget I'm reading one, set it down, and don't pick it up until a year later.

so you recognize the name?

Not really. The title sounds rrrrrrrrreal familiar though. I'm gonna look it up on Amazon or something quickly so I can take a gander at the cover. Maybe that'll trigger my memory.

it was a movie with kevin bacon, real kick ass movie

THAT'S why it sounds familiar. thanks.

You reading any good books right now?

no prob lol, also got jurassic park 1 and 2. useta love the dinos. have you seen the movie?

Oh yeah. I saw all three. Thank goodness I didn't pay for the third one. A horrible piece of crap. The first was definitely the best. As for the books, it amazed me how different the movies were. They left out so much.

in above post i was talking about if you saw stir of echoes.

but right now im reading House of Leaves. im sure you've heard about it somewhere on these forums. if not i'll be happy to tell ya baout it, its fairly good, a bit confusing at times, well not confusing but over-whelming

yeah i know they left out a lot!! i liked the third but it coulda been better, a lot better. the books were amazing though

I thought you'd said you dropped stir of echoes for the time being. Sorry. House of Leaves is certainly an intense book. I'd use both terms: overwhelming and confusing. You've really got to pay attention or you could get lost in all the narration changes. And then they throw you for even more loops with upside/sideways/backwards writing. I love that book.

is American Psycho worth buying?

well is topped reading stir of echoes, its on my to do list of reading. but im currently not reading it

Hell yes. As long as you're not a squeamish type person. If you've seen the movie and thought that was a little intense, a little too gorey, then don't buy the book. The movie is NOTHING compared to the book. But if you can look past the violence and sex and realize that he's using it as a tool to show what kind of a person Bateman is, then you should definitely read it. It's difficult to recommend to people because most people can't handle the intensity of it. I can definitely see why you can't get it in a high school library. It just doesn't belong there.

oh i thought some of the parts were extreme, but that thing doesnt bother me. i liked it that it was such a solitary movie. but i was debating wether i should buy the book cause iw asnt really lookin forward to pages of descriptive writing about batemans dinner eservation or business cards (you know how they had those kinds of ackward scenes where they seemed to take forever to get by and just didnt really seem relevant)

Hmmmmmm, you may not like it then. Personally, that's what I thought was so great about it. Because it's in the first person, all the detail is exactly what he sees, so we can assume we know his interests based on how he describes things. Ellis uses a LOT of detail in American Psycho with all the things Bateman is obsessed with, whether it be sex, clothing, murder, business cards, preparing for the day, and music, just to name a few. Bottom line, there's a ton of detail, so be wary.

the detail in those areas didnt bother me too much. but coversations between bateman and his friends about business or conversations with his friends during the business card scene seemed tog et a bit boring at times

well, there are plenty of 'em in the book. It's really deep though. I mean, you've got to look past a lot of the detail to the meaning of the detail. (wow, I'm really starting to sound like an English major) It's being used as a device to show Bateman's obsessions, his fetishes. The whole book is based on details that don't matter. It can get boring sometimes if you don't have the right frame of mind.

yeah, well it sounds like the details are fairly relelvant. but the biggest prob i had with details was in tolkien books. he went on and on about details of the environment, and i just find those kind of details hard to get through

I hear that. Those were far too slow for me. I couldn't get past the first few chapters of the LOTR books. I'm headin' out. Later.

k have a good one dude, i should head off too. gotta listen to requiem for a dream theme once more!!!

You crazy kids and your turning-threads-into-chatrooms.

But. Electro-shock therapy is very much still used to this day, and what it does is basically, reverts alot of brain cells to zero, so they can try to realign themselves. I of course, am speaking on a layman's level, but 'Electroboy' by Andy Behrman gave me a rough understanding of it.

Think like, reformatting a hard drive. You lose alot of information, but the system might run better afterwards.

As for how she was afterwards, that's a fairly standard reaction to electro-shock. ES is a fairly controversial treatment, in that, at best, you lose alot (emphasis on ALOT) of your memory, and quite often, your personality changes. Worst case scenario, you're a vegetable right after the first treatment. There's not really a whole lot of ways they can know how you'll react to it.

To think of how random a treatment it is, for such sensitive material (i.e. human beings) it's scary how haphazard they are with it, just shocking our brains into submission.

Of course, all that isn't to say it's horrible. Andy Behrman recovered quite healthily, and wrote alot of his book afterwards, still living on a number of medications. But he was a best case scenario.

And that's enough o' that.

oh shit i almost forgot!!! why do jared and marlon take jared's grandmothers tv? who do they give it to? i thought for a minute theat they stole it and rented it to this guy for drugs, not sure. any suggestions Rents or Eponymous

They stole it and sold it to the pawn shop, then his mom came later and bought it back. All so they could get some money for drugs. Damn kids nowadays. Don't appreciate their mothers. *grumble, grumble, grumble*

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