Help me understand why you've given in to all these reckless dark desires...
You're lying to yourself again
Suicidal imbecile!!
Think about it, you're pounding on a fault line...
What'll it take to get it through to you, precious?
I'm over this...
Why do you wanna throw it away like this?
Such a mess. I don't want to watch you...
Disconnect and self destruct one bullet at a time.
This song pretty much sums it up for me. Maynard is my drug free hero. See... you can't do drugs AND be successful. For example, if you pay close attention you'll realize that there's no way that MJK could've pulled off a performance like this if he was all whacked out of his mind on drugs...
A lot of people think that his songs contain drug references. Coincidentally, a lot of people are idiots.
I actually managed to leave my apartment last night.
It was the debut of Sunday Night Football and also a homecoming for Michael Vick who, after signing a 6 year, $100 million contract with Philedelphia, would be starting for the first time against his former Atlanta Falcon teammates in Atlanta. Atlanta is my team and the reason that staying home, a home with no cable, was impossible.
Vick jerseys were being burned in the Georgia Dome parking lot.
The game was awesome and there were alot of shit talkers at the bar. I was wearing a Matt Ryan jersey and if I wasn't the only Falcons fan in the building, there weren't very many others. A few loud comments were directed my way but thankfully no one came over and initiated a conversation with me, I don't think I could have handled it.
I left the bar immediately after it was over, I still can't believe I made it through the game in it's entirety. I'm glad I did.
I had a buzz from the 4 or 5 vodka and Sprites I had and on my way home I stopped at a friend's house. They were watching 12 Monkeys and doing blow, which really means they were doing blow and talking 90 mph about absolutely nothing at all and 12 Monkeys was on the television in the background.... I laid on the couch and propped my feet on the armrest of it, my usual spot, and quickly joined it.
12 Monkeys is a really good film, I highly recommend it if you've never seen it. One of Brad Pitt's best performances. Towards the end, when the protaganists are hiding in a movie theater and donning their disguises, Bruce Willis's character, Cole, suddenly realizes that he has, in fact, seen the movie that is playing, though it was a very long time ago and it's as if he's watching it for the first time. That's when he has this epiphany; that the movie never changes, it only seems as if you're seeing something different because YOU'RE different.
ANGLE ON THE AUDIENCE, a shadowy COUPLE near the back of the theater. WE CAN'T REALLY SEE THEM, but we recognize their VOICES
RAILLY
Here, let me help you.The theater is briefly illuminated by a very bright scene on the
screen, revealing enough of COLE and RAILLY for us to see she's
doing something to his upper lip while he tries to watch the movie.COLE
I think I've seen this movie before.
When I was a kid. It was on TV.RAILLY
(fussing with his upper lip)
Shh -- don't talk. Hold still.COLE
(moving his head to see the film)
I have seen it, but I don't remember
this part. Funny, it's like what's
happening to us, like the past. The
movie never changes -- it can't change
-- but everytime you see it, it seems
to be different because you're different
-- you notice different things.RAILLY
If we can't change anything...because
it's already happened, then we ought to
at least smell the flowers.COLE
Flowers! What flowers?From the darkness, a MOVIE PATRON makes a SSSSHHHHH shound.
One of the best scenes in cinematic history.
It really is a fascinating concept, the concept of perception. A song can mean ten different things to ten different people or ten different things to the same person, depending on his or her perception of it at the time.
I'm watching 12 Monkeys for the first time again.
It's 4am and somewhere in the background of 12 Monkeys are a couple guys talking and doing blow and though I've known them for 15 years, I hardly know them.
I hear Tool songs I've never heard before. I know every word to them. Something that is so fluid, that is always changing, but never changes at all- how many things in my life did I perceive wrong, how would I perceive them now? Absolutely nothing is the same, even though absolutely nothing has changed.
It momentarily occurs to me that I know absolutely nothing. I make a mental note to get to work on that as soon as possible.
I made it out of my apartment last night, I guess that's a start.
Anyone like Tool?
Maynard?
12 Monkeys?
Aldous Huxley?
A Perfect Circle?
Alfred Hitchcock?
I'm sorry to say I kind of skimmed over your post.
I do like Tool, I've seen them a couple of time, about 10 years ago. The sound was awesome, and I loved the contorionists. When I saw them at Big Day Out Serj Tankian sang with Maynard which was very cool, but Maynard stayed behind this big screen.
Maynard is odd. I don't really listen to much of Tool these days, I like more mellow music at the moment.
I saw 12 Monkeys years ago and don't remember much about it, I think I thought it was ok.
I've read Brave New World and liked it a lot. But nothing else by Huxley.
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Perfect Circle but the music seems pretty good. Like I said I'm not listening to a lot of rock recently.
I don't even know if I've seen any Hitchcock movies. Ohno I've seen Psycho. And I do want to watch The Birds.
Hitchcock is my favorite.
Is this troll?
A Good Man is Hard to Slime
The movie they were watching in the theater was Vertigo, that's why I asked. Maynard and Serj huh? That's amazing, I would've loved to see that, SOAD is a favorite of mine also. I caught on to System a little late, when Toxicity came out, and I only saw them once. They did play 22 songs though, and I knew the Mesmorize/Hypnotize (I think that's right) album all the way through, it was awesome.
Why are you sorry you skimmed my post? Are you sorry because it sucked, or because you didn't read it thoroughly? Or because I wrote it and it therefore doesn't even deserve to be skimmed?
12 Monkeys is one of my favorite movies ever. Brilliant.
Tool is great, but I never really got into them on the level that most fans seem to. I don't really know why this is, I know that I could be into them for real, but the chance to bother always seems to elude me.
Perhaps it is because I already have another band that hits me in that overwhelming trancendent place with their music, that is a part of me, that takes over me. Though they have been a real let down recently though, with their new music, but even that hits home in its own way.
I thought you were straight edge? What's with the drinking.
Well it was quite long and I don't really read long posts, also I was worried that my reply might not reflect what you'd actually written about. So it was more an apology in case I made no sense.
I dunno who you are but that avatar is the best ever.
<3 Fenriz and I know exactly what video that is from... I LOL'ed so hard when I saw it
Try not to read so much into every little thing people say.
We are a pretty accepting group but if you start with a persecution complex (they never look pretty on anyone) it will just be self fulfilling.
Most of us have know eachother for a few years or more, and we also happen to be very bored just now with each other; the forum is very slow, many interesting regular contributers are on hiatus at the moment. Try to remember the current state of bordom as well as that many of members have close relationships with one another here before you give people reason to be annoyed with you.
This is just friendly advice. It is up to you if you end up accepted here. I'd like you to stay, you seem interesting, with thoughtful things to contribute, but you just need to chill out a bit. The initial hazing will really be quite mild if you remember not to freak out at every thing that looks like a proding rod or a probe.
I had such a terrible persecution complex when I was in elementary school. I accused the nicest guy of being an asshole, and didn't even realize it wasn't called for until... like... three years later. My grandma says I was born that way.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Pepper really is the best. That woman is wise.
I eat pizza toppings first, then the crust where the toppings had been, then the crust officiale. Outside my window young women in leather leggings are filling the downtown streets on their way to nightclubs on a Monday night. Yep, school is back in session.
Tool inspired a book of poems of mine a very long time ago... it was called The Cemetery. Really only inspired a short handful of the poems in that book. Mostly just the album Aenema, otherwise I haven't bothered with Tool or its members.
Hitchcock is amazing as in North By Northwest, Vertigo, Psycho, Rear Window, but especially Blackmail, the female protoganist in that one is definitely a forerunner of The Bride (Kill Bill) and any other female heroine of which you can think.
I too skimmed your post, because it was long, and scattered, and I'm watching Inception, so.
Sean - Vertigo is one of my top five movies. I love that movie. Psycho makes the top ten.
I've never seen Blackmail though... I'm going to have to look it up.
Tool is great, but I never really got into them on the level that most fans seem to. I don't really know why this is, I know that I could be into them for real, but the chance to bother always seems to elude me.
Perhaps it is because I already have another band that hits me in that overwhelming trancendent place with their music, that is a part of me, that takes over me. Though they have been a real let down recently though, with their new music, but even that hits home in its own way.
I thought you were straight edge? What's with the drinking.
Okay, I'll bite...
What band?
Seriously, you gotta spit it out now. And thanks for the advice. As inapplicable as it is, I recall some little cunt from my past telling me the same thing. So maybe you're right.
Honestly I was just curious, it didn't bother me one way or the other, I was just curious, her statement left it open to interpretation. Was it not a valid question, considering the circumstances? Did I sound defensive? Am I doing it again?
Also, I've probably read a thousand threads on this site, in their entirety, I'm really curious as to who these interesting contributors who are on hiatus are. Is Xec8 still here? Or Corellion (or something like that)?
No, Xec8 left and Corellion was banned.
Tool is great, but I never really got into them on the level that most fans seem to. I don't really know why this is, I know that I could be into them for real, but the chance to bother always seems to elude me.
Perhaps it is because I already have another band that hits me in that overwhelming trancendent place with their music, that is a part of me, that takes over me. Though they have been a real let down recently though, with their new music, but even that hits home in its own way.
I thought you were straight edge? What's with the drinking.
Okay, I'll bite...
What band?
Seriously, you gotta spit it out now. And thanks for the advice. As inapplicable as it is, I recall some little cunt from my past telling me the same thing. So maybe you're right.
Honestly I was just curious, it didn't bother me one way or the other, I was just curious, her statement left it open to interpretation. Was it not a valid question, considering the circumstances? Did I sound defensive? Am I doing it again?
Also, I've probably read a thousand threads on this site, in their entirety, I'm really curious as to who these interesting contributors who are on hiatus are. Is Xec8 still here? Or Corellion (or something like that)?
They are an underground band called Floater from the northwest. They have been around since 1993 and have a huge following on the west coast, as well as other fans all over the country and world. But it is very very unlikely you will hear them on the radio. People either love them, despise them, or have never heard of them. Very rarely do you meet someone who knows of them that does not have strong feelings one way or the other about them. I am saying all of this assuming you are neither from the west coast, usa, and have never heard of them.
I first went to one of their shows in at the end of '95, when I was 14, and fell instantly in love. I followed them from then until mid 2000, going to every single show within a hundred mile radius of my home, sometimes back to back. For me it is just ingraid into my growing up, every song on their first three albums carries a memory of a time and place, or a heartache, or a person, or something I can't quite remember.
In recent years I still go to about two shows a year, and much of their new music means very much to me. Their most recent two albums have been sort of sad to me, the most recent even embarasses me to say I am a fan. But I cannot not be a fan, they are part of my being. I could joke that if anyone really wanted to know me on an emotional level they should listen to the entire discography starting at the begining all the way through in order, including the shit that makes me want to vomit that they recently released, it would be a very truthful joke.
It is very hard pick any song to give as an example, because their sound tends to change a lot with each album. Anyway, here is a whole ton of songs, some of my favorites, but I also picked these ones because they give a good representation of the sound of the albums they are off of. They have several more albums I didn't include any song from.
I don't actually expect you to listen to all of these, but hey, maybe you will.
The Knowing Dirge
Snowblind
They
Endless I (one)
The Last Time
Here Comes the Dog
Alcoholic
Out of Sight
Milk of Heaven
I listened to a few of them, they sound pretty ahead of their time.
Then I read their wiki.
Then I found this this page that has a complete list of the samples from film and television that they used on their albums.
http://www.floatermusic.net/samples.htm
Vertigo is in there, we call that a synchronicity. We don't ignore synchronicities.
So I'm off to find a couple of these other songs, I found "The Sad Ballad of Danny Boy", it's very reminiscent of Mr. Bungle and I <3 Mike Patton. And I listened to "Mexican Bus", it's pretty hard core. The Acoustics album sounds interesting after hearing those first few songs.
It always trips me out to hear "progressive" music like this and finding out it's from early/mid-nineties. Like Pretty Hate Machine from 1990, I'm like "wow, this is what Trent Reznor was doing while everyone else was hairbanding it up".
Do you know Mr. Bungle? It's out there but... it's really good.
I wanna lock Betty Crocker in the kitchen
And knock her upper during supper
Clutter up her butter gutter
Hostess Ding Dong wrapped an eggroll around my wong
While Dolly Madison proceded to ping my pong
Your Milky Way is M'n'M in your britches
And I'll tell you Baby Ruth it looks mighty delicious
Keep blowing my gum, cuz here I come
I'm gonna get you all sticky with my Bubble YumKnick knack paddywhack and give your dog a bone, baby
I was givin' some head to some french bread
It was a four course orgy on the spread of my bed
French kissin' french fries in my Fruit of the Looms
I get deeper penetration with a fork and a spoonI got yogurt meat loaf smeared all over my ass
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Gonna bust the seams with my refried beansRonald McDonald just loves to be fondled
With Big Mac he'll fuck it like a Chicken McNugget
Colonel Sanders wants to goose Granny's loose caboose
He's gonna give her a boost with that Kentucky fried juice
Sooper doop poop scoop, loop de loop, chicken coop
Shoot some hoop, top sirloin from the groin
Topped with dick cheese, sneeze, wheeze,
From the skeez disease, wooi!Take a dump, baby, squirt some gravy
Pour some sugar on me, honey, make it brown & runny
Give a little Flavor Flav, back from the grave
Gonna burn some toast, pump some humpin' rump roastKnick knack paddywhack, jump in the sack, in fact
Jerk the smack and crack Jack from the back
Bananarama or ramabanana
Fuckin' Barry Manilow on the Copa CabanaSqueeze me macaroni, slop your face with my bologna
You gotta syphon the spinach, you gotta cream the corn
Sperm scrambles the eggs and a meal is born
Cookin' like a beginner, but I'm goin' up in her
I had Fritos for lunch I'm havin' bush for dinner
Chef Boyardee and the Three Muskateers
Shove Charleston Chews in their rears like queers
"Holy moly, guacamole!" said my Chips Ahoy
I'm gonna pinch a ravioli on the Pillsbury dough boyKnick knack paddywhack and give your dog a boner, baby
We came to pottie...we came to pottie down your throat
And one of my faves....
Also... this rocks. Green Day rulez!!
I love Maynard and APC. I wish I could've seen that damn band play live...
That's the best sig ever.
I saw Tool outside of one of the big casinos in Vegas. I can't remember which one. It was life changing, and I wasn't even as much of a diehard as I am now. Maybe that show started me on the path. I remember "AEnima" like it was yesterday. Mindblowing. Tool is still touring, it's not too late to see them. APC might be a different story, though I could easily see them petting out a new album and touring again. I think Maynard will do alot in 2012. I think he's been biding his time.
no. green day ruled. past tense. before they discovered eye shadow and dressing like tim curry from the rocky horror picture show.
www.triplebeard.com
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“...There are so many ways of being despicable it quite makes one's head spin. But the way to be really despicable is to be contemptuous of other people's pain. You ought to have some apprehension that the man you see before you was once even younger than you are now and arrived at his present wretchedness by imperceptible degrees.”
-James Baldwin
Yeah, you're right. Fucking sell outs. Thanks for clearing that up.
I've never seen Blackmail though... I'm going to have to look it up.
Whole movie is available on youtube
Oh awesome! That means I can watch it at work tomorrow!
Sean, I didn't realize it was a silent movie. I'm about 10 minutes into it right now. I think this will be my first silent movie I've ever watched.
edit - never mind. They're talking now. lol
lol I thought it was silent but it's only b&w. Did you enjoy it?
Tracheas get ripped out for less than this.
I feel more like I do now than I did before.
I was kind of busy yesterday so I only got to watch half of it. It's kind of interesting seeing Hitchcock's earlier work like that. He already had a lot of his signature techniques down too.
I'll let you know what I think about the movie as a whole later. 
Tracheas get ripped out for less than this.
Yeah, I have no idea what the hell he meant by that. Was he calling her a "cunt"?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I'm just going to assume he was.
Maynard is the best lyricist ever & f***ing brilliant!
One of the few people in music who realize what it's really about.
Ha, just realized I'm wearing an APC 13th Step shirt.
*Official postcard from the future.
Well, that's taking it a bit too far maybe.
Maynard is a complete twat.