Did They Deserve It?
Wherein we call someones biggest accomplishment into question. To start:
Did Russel Crowe really deserve his Oscar for Gladiator?
i don't remember who else was up for one the year he won, but I woulda been pissed if I was one and he beat me out of it for that role.
Of the other nominations, I have only ever seen Cast Away. Not sure Tom Hanks' acting was any better.
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Did Taylor Swift really deserve the award? Or was Interrupting Kanye right?
Taylor Swift deserves nothing!
i never saw either video but even if he was right, he was still wrong.
Did sean Penn deserve his Oscar for Milk over Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler?
Did Slumdog Millionaire really deserve all of its awards?
Did The Departed deserve the best pic Oscar? Where they just giving it to Martin Scorsese for all the times he was snuped before? Was Raging Bull snuped for the best pic Oscar? Is the Infernal Affairs trilogy better than The Departed? The first one was good but the sequels suck, and The Departed features the two good ideas that where introduced in them.
Did Pulp Fiction deserve the best pic Oscar over Forest Gump? Isn't The Shawshank Redemption superior to both films?
Did Gladiator deserve the best pic Oscar over Traffic?
Are the Oscars all the cracked up to be? What makes them better over The Golden Globes, BFTAs, Grand Prix, or Palme d'Or?
Did Fahrenheit 9/11 deserve the Palme d'Or over Oldboy?
Is this 'mumblecore' core movement really any good? Are people mumbling they're way through a two hour film really entertaining? Doesn't the lack of script make some scenes overlong, the entire film unfocused and lack cohesive dialogue throughout that will overshadow over the 'everyday' humor it tries to dramatize?
Is Citizen Kane even remotely a good film? Does it deserve all it accolades? This ones easy. No, no it does not. Its not even worth the film it was filmed on.
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
Is Citizen Kane even remotely a good film? Does it deserve all it accolades? This ones easy. No, no it does not. Its not even worth the film it was filmed on.
i wish you would have said this first so I could have known not to pay any attention right off the bat.
Is Citizen Kane even remotely a good film? Does it deserve all it accolades? This ones easy. No, no it does not. Its not even worth the film it was filmed on.
i wish you would have said this first so I could have known not to pay any attention right off the bat.
I knew based purely on the username that there were going to be some shitty opinions in that post, but he really did save the worst for last.
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Citizen Kane deserves everything good that has ever been said about it. It is my favorite movie.
Departed is an awesome movie. Pulp Fiction is genius.
But I agree that The Wrestler should have won something.
hm, I never saw Gladiator. But I would say the role of John Nash was pretty amazing. That was the year of the black oscars though, so he never had a chance at beating Denzel. Not that Denzel didn't deserve it, he was good too. But I think Crowe's role was more impressive.
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica
Man! Someone in this thread reeks of stupid!
This is why we can't have nice things.
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This is why we can't have nice things.
You'd be surprised how many people claim Citizen Kane is the greatest movie all time who never saw a bloody frame of it and those who have and tried to convince me it is the 'greatest film of all time' just paraphrase the same crap over and over; it was innovative, and some variation of that. But if want to ramble on and on over how...... Now what exactly it was good at again? Was it poor characterization? Kane was angry because he had no childhood or was he rebellious or was he careless? Why did he seem to destroy himself later in life, since more relevant issues lead to his demises? Why would having no childhood make him constantly fail at marriage? Wouldn't he seek a mother in a wife and want her to baby, not berate her. The other characters, well they were.... in the film. The pace, not even being there. But no, its the greatest film of all time, because it was innovative. Its cinematography was gorgeous. Good cinematography does not the film any good!!!
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
Every. Single. Movie. has taken from Citizen Kane. That movie of yours? The one that you think is the greatest of all time? If it was made after 1945, it owes a lot of it's existence to Citizen Kane.
If it doesn't hold up over time for you it's because every single frame, idea and concept has been re-used or stolen from Citizen Kane to the point where it's become cliche and blase'.
Citizen Kane is the greatest film of all time the same way Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time. Sure there's plenty of other great ones, even ones that may have surpassed it, but it's the single one against which all others are judged.
Seven Samurai only happened because of Citizen Kane? Was it even released in Japan?
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
Seven Samurai only happened because of Citizen Kane? Was it even released in Japan?
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"I could have done worse!" exultantly cried the murderer Lebret, sentenced at Rouen to hard labor for life. — Félix Fénéon
I had forgotten how good Russell Crowe actually can be.
As in "Romper Stomper", "L.A. Confidential", "The Insider", "A Beautiful Mind" and maybe "Cinderella Man" - don't really remember it too well.
But I don't think Gladiator was an Oscar worthy role, Well I guess it can become a bit weird depending on what the actor's up against. The Marisa Tomei Oscar for "My Cousin Vinny" comes to mind.
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You can't spell manslaughter without laughter.
The Oscars have always been about popularity over quality. That said, Wells was not terribly lovable.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Also, people talk of Marissa Tomei's Oscar (and no, she didn't deserve it), but we often forget the Golden Globe pretty-much openly purchased for Pia Zadora by her very very rich husband.
This is why we can't have nice things.
To a certain degree. It's kinda ridiculous though, that comedy never will be taken serious. A huge Comedy star will probably not be winning an Oscar for his comedy performances. But in a way I can understand that. McDonalds will never win any Michelin stars but the food is damn popular.
It's some kind of unholy compromise.
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You can't spell manslaughter without laughter.
To a certain degree. It's kinda ridiculous though, that comedy never will be taken serious. A huge Comedy star will probably not be winning an Oscar for his comedy performances. But in a way I can understand that. McDonalds will never win any Michelin stars but the food is damn popular.
It's some kind of unholy compromise.
What's weird is how they always say that Comedy is much harder to play than Dramatic. So if someone is able to make you laugh your ass off they should be getting oscars over someone that can only die onscreen to generate some cheap tears.
The Three Stooges should have more Oscars than ....hmmm... i can't think of anyone to say that has a lot of Oscars. But you catch my drift.
I was going to say Tom Hanks, but he started out in Comedy too. so that kind of destroys my whole thing.
anyways, nevermind, move along, nothing to see here..
Seven Samurai only happened because of Citizen Kane? Was it even released in Japan?
I should have learned to ignore you when you said there was no film industry in Louisiana, but I didn't. Now though, I think I will try to block out every comment you make.
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica
Seven Samurai only happened because of Citizen Kane? Was it even released in Japan?
I don't know much about Kurasawa, but I bet he had seen it and it got his artistic juices going for when he started his own film career.
Anyways, Ikiru is a better film than Seven Samurai anyways.
Seven Samurai only happened because of Citizen Kane? Was it even released in Japan?
I should have learned to ignore you when you said there was no film industry in Louisiana, but I didn't. Now though, I think I will try to block out every comment you make.
I like having him around. You can't have everyone just agreeing with everyone all the time. Needs some conflict in there. Plus, some of his ideas are so goofy that it's easy to debunk 'em!
To a certain degree. It's kinda ridiculous though, that comedy never will be taken serious. A huge Comedy star will probably not be winning an Oscar for his comedy performances. But in a way I can understand that. McDonalds will never win any Michelin stars but the food is damn popular.
It's some kind of unholy compromise.
What's weird is how they always say that Comedy is much harder to play than Dramatic. So if someone is able to make you laugh your ass off they should be getting oscars over someone that can only die onscreen to generate some cheap tears.
The Three Stooges should have more Oscars than ....hmmm... i can't think of anyone to say that has a lot of Oscars. But you catch my drift.
I was going to say Tom Hanks, but he started out in Comedy too. so that kind of destroys my whole thing.
anyways, nevermind, move along, nothing to see here..
I thought of him when I wrote "for his comedy performances".. Jim Carrey seems already to be on the same road, Adam Sandler tried a "Magnolia" aswell.
Handicapped or being persecuted or a combination seems to have a clear advantage to Oscar's at least. But I don't think Will Ferrell is crying himself to sleep. It's just a bit odd.
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You can't spell manslaughter without laughter.
I like having him around. You can't have everyone just agreeing with everyone all the time.
That's why we have Giggan.
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica
i dunno, i really liked gladiator, there really was nothing wrong with it, until that woman at the end went all super saiyan 2 on everyone in the arena, but i thought he did fine as the spaniard, as for the other movies that were out, i have to agree with the other poster, i didnt really see any of them, so i would say yeah, i think he deserved the award for a movie well done, it might not be the best or worst movie of all time, or even the year, but i think it should be recognized as a movie worth watching
Yes............only because everyone else in 2000 was crap.
Look at the Oscar line up for that year:
Gladiator
Chocolate
Traffic
Oh Brother Where Art Thou
and ... Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
I mean, c'mon, with 90% of other films being chick flicks or badly acted horror movies (e.g. Final Destination), WHO ELSE WAS GOING TO GET IT?
So, in the context of 2000, he deserved it. In the context of film, probably...not.
Life is like a walrus on a deserted beach.
Oh Brother Where Art Thou
This should have won everything there is to win. Oscar, Nobel Prize, Cy Young Award...
Only problem was, nobody knew what the heck it was until it came out on DVD and TNT decided to run it every night for a month and a half.
I never saw Gladiator because... I fell asleep within the first 30 minutes. That's how bad the movie was for me.
Traffic should have won. At least it was interesting, entertaining, had a message, was dramatic and comedic at times, and nailed the whole Drug War thing in the USA pretty well how I imagined it to be.
p.s. I never watched Citizen Kane because I know the ending through reading countless reviews and summaries of the film, and hearing many directors and actors talk about it. Therefore, watching a movie for the first time when I know how it ends, and all the tricks used to tell it kind of blew it for me.
Nah - you can still watch it!
Yeah, watch it anyway. Unborn generations already know the shyamalanic twist at the end but will still enjoy the movie.
This is why we can't have nice things.
See thats the problem with everyones point of view, they're always so grounded and realistic. Why can't the most absurd idea be the most accurate? Think for it long enough, like thing so hard it hurts and you start question your existence and reality, you realize that one idea is as absurd as another. The simple truth of the matter is that you can't truly debunk anything since you only experience everything through your own eyes. What makes you think that the world isn't playing a giant cosmic prank on you? or maybe I really I'm just as crazy as the doctor say? But then again they can't talk now that they have no tongues mawhahahaha. Wow its really difficult to come across crazily menacing on the internet. Whatever.
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
Wow its really difficult to come across crazily menacing on the internet. Whatever.
Not really; you just have to sustain it over a period rather than try to squeeze it into a single post.
This is why we can't have nice things.
then who was rosebud??
It was the goddamn sled, and if you don't shut up about it I'll shove it up your ass.
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
do we still have an ignore feature? We used to have that didn't we?
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica
no, see, it was supposed to be a thing on the whole "then who was phone?" thing ahhh i give up...
God I wish.
I'm trying to mentally block out his posts but it's not working.
God I wish.
I'm trying to mentally block out his posts but it's not working.
Those opinions hang on to your belief that no one finds the two of you ever annoying.
"The rat inside your brain rules the world."
Citizen Kane SUCKED!!!!!!! True fact.
Alcoholism is the cure not the disease.
Traffic should have won. At least it was interesting, entertaining, had a message, was dramatic and comedic at times, and nailed the whole Drug War thing in the USA pretty well how I imagined it to be.
I still don't think I've watched Gladiator all the way through yet and if I have I don't remember. All I do remember is watching the first 30 min. several times and not being able to get past that.
Lord of the Rings.
Someone had to say it.
Someone had to say it.
I think it deserved some of the more technical/artistic awards it won.
But Best Picture and Best Director? Nah.
Someone had to say it.
I miss you beer buddy!
And yes I agree. LOTR movies 
Traffic should have won. At least it was interesting, entertaining, had a message, was dramatic and comedic at times, and nailed the whole Drug War thing in the USA pretty well how I imagined it to be.
I liked Traffic a lot except the parking lot scene. So much unbelievable things going on when they decide to walk instead of using the car filled with explosives. I don't really buy that "the experienced assassin" would try and run up to them with a gun at that point. 1 vs 8? And on top of that another assassin is there to shoot the first one right there and then.
I don't know, that scene kinda threw me out of the movie for awhile but other than that it's a good movie.
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You can't spell manslaughter without laughter.
See thats the problem with everyones point of view, they're always so grounded and realistic. Why can't the most absurd idea be the most accurate? Think for it long enough, like thing so hard it hurts and you start question your existence and reality, you realize that one idea is as absurd as another. The simple truth of the matter is that you can't truly debunk anything since you only experience everything through your own eyes. What makes you think that the world isn't playing a giant cosmic prank on you? or maybe I really I'm just as crazy as the doctor say? But then again they can't talk now that they have no tongues mawhahahaha. Wow its really difficult to come across crazily menacing on the internet. Whatever.
OMG, ever wondered if people see colours differently from other people? Like if your red is actually my blue? That's crazy!
OMFG, have you ever wondered if, when you fall asleep, the world just stops existing until you wake up? That's crazy!
OMFGROFLMAO, have you ever wondered if "knowledge" is actually impossible because we can't KNOW that we know something? Holy crap, that's crazy!
thanks for sharing.blackhawk tactical pants.
— Spambot
"I could have done worse!" exultantly cried the murderer Lebret, sentenced at Rouen to hard labor for life. — Félix Fénéon
See thats the problem with everyones point of view, they're always so grounded and realistic. Why can't the most absurd idea be the most accurate? Think for it long enough, like thing so hard it hurts and you start question your existence and reality, you realize that one idea is as absurd as another. The simple truth of the matter is that you can't truly debunk anything since you only experience everything through your own eyes. What makes you think that the world isn't playing a giant cosmic prank on you? or maybe I really I'm just as crazy as the doctor say? But then again they can't talk now that they have no tongues mawhahahaha. Wow its really difficult to come across crazily menacing on the internet. Whatever.
OMG, ever wondered if people see colours differently from other people? Like if your red is actually my blue? That's crazy!
OMFG, have you ever wondered if, when you fall asleep, the world just stops existing until you wake up? That's crazy!
OMFGROFLMAO, have you ever wondered if "knowledge" is actually impossible because we can't KNOW that we know something? Holy crap, that's crazy!
Phil I love you
i dunno. for him thats as close as he's gonna get to an oscar worthy role. so, i guess, maybe?
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