'Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.

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I am fucking pumped for this movie. Who else is with me!

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[QUOTE=rossthefireman]I am fucking pumped for this movie. [/QUOTE]
why?

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Have you seen the trailer, Karb?
How could you not be?

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well, I will only say that I'm not suprised that government of Kazakhstan is against this movie.

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I am super excited about it. Have you seen the [URL=http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=75796390]myspace page[/URL]?

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[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]Have you seen the trailer, Karb?
How could you not be?[/QUOTE]
I love Borat
he's a helluva lot funnier than his Ali G
but its a sketch, how the hell theyre going to drag it out for an hour an a half I can't see

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[QUOTE=nathaniel parker]I love Borat
he's a helluva lot funnier than his Ali G
but its a sketch, how the hell theyre going to drag it out for an hour an a half I can't see[/QUOTE]
it will be just the same as with Mr. Bean and Ali G movies.

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Shit I didn't even notice it was the Ali G guy until just now.

He's in that Talladega Nights and his accent in that movie made me want to find out where he's eating dinner tonight and go there to smack him.

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[QUOTE=rossthefireman]I am fucking pumped for this movie. Who else is with me!

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Definitely with you on this one. He was hysterical in Talledega Nights, which I have to say I was suprised I laughed as much as I did.

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[QUOTE=Mr.Shadov]it will be just the same as with Mr. Bean and Ali G movies.[/QUOTE]
Its nothing like those movies.
They had scripts and actors.
This one has actual real people he's annoying, which is why it's so funny.

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[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]Its nothing like those movies.
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This one has actual real people he's annoying, which is why it's so funny.[/QUOTE]
I'm an actual real person and I was annoyed by those movies

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I couldn't view the trailer. When is this coming out?

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[QUOTE=veryhungryhobo]I couldn't view the trailer. When is this coming out?[/QUOTE]
november sometime i think

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[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]Its nothing like those movies.
They had scripts and actors.
This one has actual real people he's annoying, which is why it's so funny.[/QUOTE]
Bingo, thats why its so good. He 'dupes' normal, albiet, strange, people into these interviews. Its brilliant.

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I am to be seeing this movie...

You will be seeing this movie too everybody, or else he will be execute.

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i seriously had my doubts but after seeing some more of it and finding out its basically a quest movie I am very excited to get my ass out and see this today

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Other than Jackass 2, this is the funniest movie I've seen all year. The greatest scene ever is when Borat fights naked with his producer in the hotel room. Gypsy tears, chocolate faces, shape-shifting jews, I fucking love this film. Go see it.

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oh boy! oh boy! I just can't wait....

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***SPOILERS***

I just got back from the theater, and Borat... is easily the funniest, most uncomfortable movie I've seen all year. Sitting to my right was a young couple in love; on my left is a father with two young boys (10 or 12 or so), and all around me were 70 year old women thinking this would be a funny movie to go to on a Saturday afternoon. The movie itself was good, but what made it great was that I was one out of maybe a dozen people laughing hystericallly. The entire movie was hilarious, from the opening sequence to the final credit roll. It mixes the improv humor from the TV show with a basic plot (Borat is a reporter who comes to America to learn about our culture, only to fall in love with CJ from Baywatch, and he heads across the country to take her as his bride). There's are some great skits from the Ali G show that were used or recreated (singing the national anthem to a crowd in a southern rodeo; taking humor lessons in New York), as well as some brilliant new ones. There is one five minute scene in this film that I have no idea how it got passed the censors at the MPAA -- Borat is in the bath, bathing. As he leaves to get dressed, he walks in on his producer (some huge, huge fat and stinky guy), sitting butt nekked on the bed, jerking off to a picture of Pamela Anderson. Borat, enraged that his friend is jerking off to the woman he loves, they start wrestling -- both completely naked, balls and weiners and lots and lots of flabby skin everywhere. The fight spills out into the hotel hallway, and into the elevator where a couple of business people are riding to the lobby. The fight continues through the lobby, and into a conference room where 300 people are listening to a couple speakers selling mutual funds. It was a fucking riot, and I look around and no one is laughing. Everyone is looking ready to walk out (only one person did. he was old). The father of the two boys looked horrified. It was brilliant. The best part of this film is the fact that it was dropped from 2000 screens to 800 because American audiences won't understand the subtleties of it -- Sasha Cohen is Jewish, yet Borat is anti-sematic. People are upset that he's a sexist. Kazakhstan is threatening a boycott because it thinks the movie portrays the country in a negative light -- and they're not wrong, because the average American knows nothing about the country.

Anyway, I'll continue writing more later. It's a fantastic movie, and I think everyone needs to see it in the theaters, just to get the reaction of those around them. If you watch it on your tv at home with your friends, it might still be funny, but it won't be so profound.

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i just got back from the theater too. i haven't laughed so hard in eons. here in England, however, EVERYBODY was in stitches. the whole room was laughing hysterically. it was great. that naked fighting scene is more unforgettable than anything i've seen in a movie.

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only thing that bothered me by it was it seemed they trumped up some of the improv stuff to make it seem even more improvised
other than that I laughed my ass off from start to finish

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The bit at the Jewish Bed and Breakfast was pure genius. I lost it when they threw money at the cockroaches.

Sacha has the biggest nutsack the world of comedy has ever seen. To actually pull off the rodeo bit? I can't comprehend how he actually goes on with this stuff.

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that rodeo bit was one of the ones that bugged me
did it seem to anyone else that they just played a tape of people booing over that? the whole time its going on the people in the grandstands i didn't notice them really making any kind of booing gestures or whatnot?

anyways, I hope he makes enough money off of doing this because the character is basically ruined now after the media deluge before it came out

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But there's still the Ali G charactrer.

... and that fag reporter one, too.

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Ali G already had his movie, direct to video here i think

Bruno is only funny for about 1 minute to laugh at the gayness of him, although he does a pretty good job at showing the hypocrisy of the fashion folk

i think this'll also show if the guy is truly a comic god if he can keep coming up with characters to invent

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I saw this yesterday and I agree that
A) Funniest movie I have seen i n years, my chest hurt when it was over.
Glasses Throwing the money at the Jew cockroaches was infact pure genious. As was trying to aqurie gypsy tears at the garage sale.
C) How he stayed out of jail is beyong me.
D) America still has lots of problems
E)The scene at the Pentacostal church had me in tears.

And for those that dont know 20th Centuray Fox has plucked down 42.5 million for the worldwide rights to Sasca Baron Cohens next film, which according to EW, will be Bruno film set to be released in 2008.

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[QUOTE=rossthefireman;892366]

And for those that dont know 20th Centuray Fox has plucked down 42.5 million for the worldwide rights to Sasca Baron Cohens next film, which according to EW, will be Bruno film set to be released in 2008.[/QUOTE]

42 million!! WOW are they going get burned on that one
borat is a character with some incredible depth to him
Bruno is just empty
but who knows maybe this one will make enough that they can afford to tank the next one

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SPOILERS

Quick comments, I agree that the subtleties of Alig G and Bruno are rather shallow, Ali G's humour is just that he's rather dumb, but the Bruno character could attack the art world really good, because that one skit where he asks the artists "your work seemed rather light and airy, is that true?" and the artists agrees and two minutes later he says "your work has a heavy burdenesque quality to it, am I right?" and the artist ALSO agrees. He's playing with a lot more subversive qualities there, but.. BORAT, shit that nigga's crazy!!

Christ, I laughed my ass of watching it tonight, as did a theathre packed with over 400 people. I knew I had to see this in the theatre in a evening screening. This is just like with JACKASS the film, where the howls of the audience only add to the humour. But man, BORAT the film was insane from beginning to end, yes some sketches were repeated, but imagine people who'd never heard of Borat the character and then get bombarded with this. Then again, it's not so much if one 'gets' it, it's just more so I think, can one 'take' it. It's a rather yes, crude form of humour, but at the same time it's not exactly what it seems. He's saying so much more with it. I'm really tired so I'll just say, I fucking cracked the fuck up with this one. ALI G the film was bland, but the Borat character is insane. Indeed big balls on Cohen for what he pulled off, though anyone a little familair with the nature of film production and distribution knows that it its a mixture of real and fiction, in the sense that, some people are in on it and some kinda and some not at all, but are notified afterwards.

Standout crack me up moments:
- The getting chased by 'the Jew' ceremony. With the giant puppets, christ, I had just taken a sip of Coke and I nearly choked when I saw what I saw, I thought they were gonna do a bull chase with cows or something when I saw those people running like they do once a year in Barcelona.
- "chocolate face politic".
- The sleepover at the old Jewish couple. That whole scene is priceless. The look on Borat's face when he finds out they're jewish. The dread they have. The niceness of the old couple and oh man oh man, the part where he goes "they's shapeshifted" and the camera pans and there's two cockroaches coming underneath the door... AND HE THROWS MONEY AT THEM!
- The nude fight sequence
- Getting Pamela Anderson to marry him.
- and and and.. just go see it,

Shame they cancelled so many screens, It could blockbuster the fuck out of the rest of the films. There's hardly anything worth getting your ass out to see these days. Coincidentally, I have mixed feelings towards Scorsese's THE DEPARTED.

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i put it into words the other day talking about Borat
The Innocent character has been loved on the screen forever
and thats what Borat is, a "corrupt" Innocent. He's just so pure and lovable when he says these evil things you can't help but still like the guy

as for Bruno, two of my favorites when he's in some kind of boutique in LA and asks the guy what it was like when Madonna came in and the guy tells him Madonna had never been there, Bruno tells him how his viewers love madonna and want to hear about her, so they come back and he asks again and the guy goes on and on how Madonna came in there and bought like 14 pieces of whatever
or
the time he's doing like a Etv show and gots a couple dudes in there and they start talking about some awards ceremony and the clothes everyone wore. The guys are just going on saying how nice everyone looked and Bruno tells em how no, we want to really tear into em so they go right back to the pictures they showed and say the complete opposite of whatever they said at first, then they get to Paris Hilton and tear into her and Bruno goes No, we like her so they change their tune again
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[URL=http://reverseshot.com/article/strong_borat_cultural_learnings_of_america_for_make_benefit_glorious_nation_of_kazakhstan_strong]Original article here, on REVERSE SHOT.[/URL]

Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
Dir. Larry Charles, U.S., Twentieth Century Fox

Provocation, in case you hadn’t noticed, is the comedic instrument of the moment. One needn’t look much further than Chappelle’s Show, The Family Guy, and Scary Movie 4 for a crash-course in contemporary comedy, in which racial slurs, incest, drug use, violence, and all manner of bodily functions are not only the reified fair-game of humor, but the norm. Last summer, it was Wedding Crashers’ guilt-free, homophobic panty-raid; this summer, it was Jackass Number Two’s feast of horse shit and semen. This is the cheerful by-product of post-irony: now that every taboo has been normalized and embraced, we can all have a good chuckle. Well, maybe not all of us. As popular as this reopened comic treasure chest is with that monolithic target market of young white males, it seems that jokes about negroes and coprophagy still raise some hackles across the political spectrum, from Laura Bush to Tipper Gore, Michael Medved to Armond White.

Enter Borat Sagdiyev, Central Asian TV journalist, sent with his rotund, hirsute producer, Azamat Bagatov, to our shores by his country’s Ministry of Information in order to document the cultural distance between the mighty U.S. and A. and his backward nation of Kazakhstan. At times, this distance is shockingly vast; at others, uncomfortably close. As suggested by Borat’s creator, British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen, our hero’s home country is a sort of Neolithic, bizzaro-world version of the actual Kazakhstan, a nation whose primary export is potassium, where a successful career in prostitution is the highest status one can hope for one’s sister, observed holidays include the annual “Running of the Jew,” and wine is made from fermented horse’s urine. Like all of his imagined fellow countrymen, Borat is a misogynist, anti-Semite, gypsy-baiter, pervert, jingoist, and—in case there’s anything I’ve left out—all-around vulgarian. In short, everything a 15-year old boy could hope for and more.

Actually, quite a lot more. Sure, Baron Cohen’s comedy has a warm fondness for the lowest common denominator, and as Talladega Nights and his teaming with Jay Roach and Todd Phillips indicate, he’s now an officially naturalized citizen of Hollywood’s blockbuster comedy establishment. But Borat’s provocation cuts a few inches deeper than Ricky Bobby’s toothless gumming of the red states, hitting the American South squarely and mercilessly below the Bible Belt. As brazenly unsubtle as Baron Cohen’s film can be, entrapping unsuspecting yokels, politicians, and ordinary folk alike in a series of increasingly profane circumstances and moral quandaries, Borat’s “cultural learnings of America” are educational indeed. Re-translated through Baron Cohen’s sociological looking glass, the film’s subtitle suggests that the oily, sex-crazed TV journalist’s travelogue might actually make benefit hypocritical, xenophobic, patronizing nation of the United States.

Perhaps it takes a foreigner’s eyes (or lens) to see one’s own country in a newly illuminating light, but Borat’s touristic sensibility and his oddly winning and innocent frame of reference make “War of Terror”-era America seem an alien landscape. Borat leaves his ramshackle home village of Kuczek (actually a Romanian gypsy village) in a horse-drawn Yugo and soon lands in the middle of Times Square, attended by Nilsson’s “Everybody’s Talkin’”, a coy Midnight Cowboy reference suggestive of the type of cultural and especially sexual moré-shattering to come. Soon he is gallivanting across the country in a decrepit ice-cream truck (he couldn’t afford the pussy-magnet Hummer), and encouraging a spectrum of reactions, from threats of violence from New Yorkers to the pity and indulgence of the aging Southern belles on Secession Drive to the complete empathy of, yes, white frat boys.

This raises the question of who the primary target of Baron Cohen’s satirical pike actually is. At first glance, it would seem to be anyone unfortunate enough to cross his path: feminists, driving instructors, rodeo cowboys, Pamela Anderson fans, and any innocent bystander along the way. But Baron Cohen’s ridicule is perhaps less egalitarian. Of course, there’s quite a bit of laughter at the expense of Borat’s supposed home country, though not nearly so much as to warrant the Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s American PR tour last month. (Presumably, there’s a sharp satire to be made of Kazakhstan’s real-life political corruption and human rights violations, but this is not it.) But Baron Cohen’s favorite quarry is the American Conservative, polite and helpful in his intention, puritanical in his ethos, and supercilious in his desire to help those with less intelligence, civilization, and moral rectitude than himself. Borat’s comedy of cruelty inspires a good deal of squirming throughout, but Baron Cohen nearly always makes one believe that his victims deserve their treatment, if only for their extreme self-seriousness and their gullible willingness to believe that such primitive, socially retarded people as Borat actually exist overseas.

If all of this seems abusive and cynical, the work of a sociopathic smarty-pants (or, worse yet, a foreign hipster), it’s worth noting that even this reaction of horror is an intentional part of Baron Cohen’s goading. Many of Borat’s victims are shockingly compliant with his crudity, but others’ reactions are not terribly far from what our own might be, and uncomfortable self-comparisons are what Borat is all about. Indeed, many of the best scenes in the film involve the least repellent of Americans—like a group of black youths on Martin Luther King Blvd., USA, who try to give Borat some fashion advice, or the hapless hotel guest who stares politely ahead to avert the gaze of the two naked men sharing an elevator with him. To confound our reactions further, the film’s sense of reality is as topsy-turvy as its moral tenor: some sequences are clearly staged and scripted, others obviously improvisatory, but most of the film exists in an equivocal reality-TV limbo, in which the boundaries of truth and fiction are hopelessly indistinct. And it is this device that holds one’s attention throughout: even more than in his HBO series Da Ali G Show, one is left with a constant confusion at just how Baron Cohen achieves his ends, evading lawsuits and incarceration in the process. The film’s credits coyly conceal all but the most obvious sources of the film’s alternative reality, maintaining the same bogus Cyrillic typeface (with badly superimposed English translations) right up until the last frame, a rating from the Kazakhstani equivalent of the MPAA restricting the film’s viewership to people over the age of three.

In this way, Baron Cohen, a scrupulous method actor and almost monomaniacal performer, never drops character to laugh along with the proceedings or to point a derisive finger at his subjects. Borat’s creator is disconcertingly serious about being Borat, even in interviews and appearances promoting the film, and so his personal intent or political point remains nebulous throughout. Insofar as the butt of the Borat joke remains free-floating and adaptable, striking indiscriminately, it represents a good deal more than a juvenile challenge to the stomachs and delicate sensibilities of the prudish. That Jackass’ Bam Margera will take a dildo in the ass for his art may seem a brave gesture of endurance to some, but Borat’s is a profanity more profound. Offering up a straw man of barbarity, ignorance, and foreignness for well-meaning Americans to chastise and proselytize to, Borat is a force of political provocation less on the level of the cuddly Archie Bunker and more on that of Pasolini’s libertines in Salò and Waters’s “filthiest people alive” in Pink Flamingos. He’s an embodiment of a provocation that, by intent, is unassimilable, a nasty, indigestible nugget that sticks in one’s throat, demarcating what are—or what ought to be—the moral limits of our world.

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Borat had its North American premier in my town last summer during the film festival, and i had no idea, i went to some italian ladies documentary and thats it.

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The film is hilarious. The naked scene killed me, I never laughed so hard in my life.

Poor Pammy