Batman begins
coulda had more cillian murphy in it, but otherwise enjoyable
Hell ya… all character and as true to life as Batman could possibly get. I’m obsessed with Memento so i've been looking forward to this.
Ha HA! the cream was how Bruce Wayne's duality came out, he was seen as a rich spoiled brat. The scene where he was telling off his guests was brilliant
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Just got back from seeing it today and I really liked it.
I did feel that it was rather long, but the background story was pretty integral and very nicely done. I loved how much more real the character was; that Batman's superpowers evolved from revenge rather than something completely out of this world, like a freak laboratory spillage or a power that a superhero was born with.
Anyway, the cast was excellent. I quite liked Oldman's performance and I always have liked Neeson, not to mention Bale. Katie Holmes was alright, but Cillian Murphy was really fantastic: a very different role to the other films i've seen him in. In addition, the Scarecrow bits frightened the hell out of me.
As for Hamill playing the Joker in the sequel: Poor guy's career has been in ruins for years! I look forward to him playing the bad guy as his Luke Skywalker role was so banal.
Anyway, it looks like he's had enough practice as the Joker already...
Looking forward to Spiderman 3 also...
(PS. Brit actors are seriously taking over...)
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(PS. Brit actors are seriously taking over...)[/QUOTE]
and there ain't nothin' wrong with that.
[QUOTE=likewise]Hi, newbie here, Batman Begins looks great and I'm looking forward to it. Someone mentioned the new Willie Wonka with Johnny Depp, has anyone seen the trailer for this? It's kind of creepy, he plays it like he's Michael Jackson. It just creeped me out. I was wondering if anyone else got the same vibe?[/QUOTE]
I got the vibe of "awesome-i-can't-wait".
The only part that sucks is that it's not a musical. haha.
[QUOTE=walkingcontradiction]and there ain't nothin' wrong with that.[/QUOTE]
Of course not. I wholeheartedly condone it.
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I agree, the english actors save the day once again, Michael Caine being excellent as usual of course. The choices made to link Batman to a ninja tradition is clever, as well as some attempts at gritty realism. Unfortunately, we have to absorb long tunnels of meaningless preachy dialogue, a shaky treatment of the conflicts between vengeance, justice and punishment, poorly filmed action sequences.
LRS : 2/5

[QUOTE=alex cassun]wow, you're quite a jackass. the guy does two studio films and he's all the sudden on the way to being talentless? that's amazingly ignorant. also, i wasn't a fan of insomnia, but i do appreciate how nolan has taken what could've easily been lesser movies and made them more than that. they've both (insomnia and batman begins) had an edge to them and a feel to them that nearly all hollywood directors wouldn't've had.[/QUOTE]
Calling me a jackass? I guess you are one of those little kids who have to talk shit on the internet because you are too pussy to do it in real life so that is cool.
The point I was getting at is Chris Nolan was doing good, non-hollywood movies. This was great because most movies are special effects driven now, so it was a relief to see a guy with as much talent as he has doing sort of non-mainstream movies. The Following and Momento were both great movies that were never blockbusters, but they were better movies than most of the shit coming out today.
What I am saying is any hack can do a Batman movie and Nolan doing a Batman movie is probably the best Batman movie that could be made, but it does not come close to The Following or Momento. Insomnia was better than most movies in the multiplexes but it was a ripoff of a foriegn movie.
-K
Here is the thing, Batman Begins is a good movie. Not just good for a superhero flick, but it's a well made film. It falters here and there because it is about a superhero, but, if you take it on it's own terms, semiotically, then it is very well done. The acting is very good, the events are plausible withing the confines of the world and the focus is far more on story and theme then on action. [B]***1/2 Stars[/B]
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
Yeah. Took my father last night, for Father's Day.
They tell a good story. I was impressed. Emotional movie. Well done, IMO.
kabol
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play hard, like it's work to be done.
[QUOTE=franc tireur]SPOILERS AHEAD
I agree, the english actors save the day once again, Michael Caine being excellent as usual of course. The choices made to link Batman to a ninja tradition is clever, as well as some attempts at gritty realism. Unfortunately, we have to absorb long tunnels of meaningless preachy dialogue, a shaky treatment of the conflicts between vengeance, justice and punishment, poorly filmed action sequences.
LRS : 2/5[/QUOTE]
Well, it certainly isn't The Three Colors trilogy, but taken as a Jungian Archetypal fil at it's basic levels, I think it is well made. The superhero has, by its very nature, a rather simplistic manichean world to live in, that they even try to bridge the grey area between the poles and explore it, even not deeply, is commendable.
It's a well made film, for what it is, and even at times you see it being better than what it is, if only for an instant.
Maybe my expectations have fallen so low these days that I am overcompensating with praise for a movie I actually liked.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
After reading a bit more of The Dark Knight Returns, I noticed the Batmobile is indeed a tank, according to Frank Miller, and Nolan got the design from Miller. I give Nolan credit for keeping the design intact, but it's just different than what I'm used to seeing. It's still cool though. At least in the comic it has more personality; it's got this telescoping head that looked cool in the comic and made me wonder why Nolan didn't use that in the movie.
[QUOTE=Undertow]After reading a bit more of The Dark Knight Returns, I noticed the Batmobile is indeed a tank, according to Frank Miller, and Nolan got the design from Miller. I give Nolan credit for keeping the design intact, but it's just different than what I'm used to seeing. It's still cool though. At least in the comic it has more personality; it's got this telescoping head that looked cool in the comic and made me wonder why Nolan didn't use that in the movie.[/QUOTE]
you said it...it looked cool in the comics, but in film...
In before PCJ merge 
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[QUOTE=Popcultjunkie]you said it...it looked cool in the comics, but in film...[/QUOTE]
I also liked that organic look the interior had in the comic, how all the switches, wires and buttons looked like they were trying to latch onto Batman instead of just looking like a car interior like the movie portrayed it as.
[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]:o In before PCJ merge :o[/QUOTE]
:confused: did you not get the [URL=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=20313]memo[/URL]?
well apparently you didnt get [url=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showpost.php?p=658918&postcount=5116]mine[/url].
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best blockbuster-style movie i have seen in years. i loved it. Rutger Hauer, fricken Gary Oldman, fricken Michael Caine, fricken Christian Bale, the list goes on.
and, it actually scared me. like i was freaked out. wait, a superhero movie can be dark and scary? NO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think Mark Hammil could do an excellent job as the joker once he goes nuts and starts whering the makeup and dressing in purple suits. but what about the badass gangster type that jack played so well originally? i keep picturing baby-face hammil walking around with an oldie style suit and a violin case.
Saw BB today.
It's ace. Best blockbuster for a while.
want sean penn to play the joker? [url=http://www.petitiononline.com/seanpenn/petition.html]sign here[/url]
[QUOTE=alex cassun]want sean penn to play the joker? [url=http://www.petitiononline.com/seanpenn/petition.html]sign here[/url][/QUOTE]
That'd be hip.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
sign it then.
[QUOTE=alex cassun]sign it then.[/QUOTE]
No, that'd be un-hip.
I was here. Then I wasn't. Then I was again.
i saw this last night and i thought it was awesome. christian bale rocked it, katie holmes is weird looking, the batmobile was wow.
so batman buys his shit from china? does that mean there's a little tag on the inside of his suit that says 'made in china'? cause thats cool.
I was thinking about bats last night and I wondered if the creator of Daredevil was pissed off that Batman already existed or if the creator of Batman was pissed of when Daredevil came out, then I thought "no, probably not".
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[QUOTE=mikandrewz]I was thinking about bats last night and I wondered if the creator of Daredevil was pissed off that Batman already existed or if the creator of Batman was pissed of when Daredevil came out, then I thought "no, probably not".[/QUOTE]
why? what does one have to do w/ the other?
[QUOTE=JKuhlmann]why? what does one have to do w/ the other?[/QUOTE]
bats are blind and so is daredevil. but batMAN isn't blind...yeah they don't really have much in common :-/ except the makers of both were kinda pissed when devilman came out being blind deaf and dumb and only one leg. now there's a hero.
I suggested the Sean Penn for Joker thing in a Batconversation at work and no one saw it as a good idea. Jackasses.
[QUOTE=walkingcontradiction]Let's take a moment to reflect....
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*siiiiiigh*[/QUOTE]
One of my co-workers just told me I look a lot like this guy. I think he's imagining things.
That bit at the end where Batman looks at the newspaper and it says something like, 'Drunken Millionaire Sets Fire to House in wacky spree' had me in stitches for ages afterwards.
That Cillian Murphy is soooo sex usually, as someone I know said around the time Red Eye was out, 'I'd just let him, he's mega hot' but one day I was flicking through a Total Film and there was this large and unfortunate moonface picture. Not attractive.
[QUOTE=Federov]I suggested the Sean Penn for Joker thing in a Batconversation at work and no one saw it as a good idea. Jackasses.[/QUOTE]
I read somewhere (possibly the BBC) that they are considering having Michael Keaton play the next Joker, which would be pretty cool.



I saw it on IMAX and let me tell you the beggining action sequences made me want to throw up. Whoever decided it'd be awesome to have a shaky camera plus a giant screen is insane.
Oh, yeah, that and Katie Holmes will always be Joey Potter, she needn't act ever again.
I was really impressed with BB. I liked film effects normally used for monsters in the horror flicks were used for Batman. There was a scene in the docks were a guy just [i]vanishes[/i] into a crate. I was like wow. I'm more than happy they didn't make this into a two hour toy commercial. In fact,
I'm willing to bet parents who take their lil' 'uns to this will be pissed. "Bout fucking time they start catering to a more adult audience esp. with a "dark" character like Batman.
As far as Mark Hamill playing the Joker...
I doubt it. I think Nolan going to be going with a younger crowd. And probably someone from the UK. But hopefully, it will be Bob Saget, who would kick ass.
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