Audition !!MAJOR SPOILERS!!

Ok the movie isn't that scary as it is disturbing or shocking. It's sorta funny actually. At first, it's this lighthearted love story that involves a guy holding a fake Audition for a woman to be his wife. Soon enough, he vows to love only her, and before long you realize that she's extremely possessive when it comes to love and she ends up being a sadistic psycho well versed in the art of torture.

Well at least I thought that was funny.

Its feminist propaganda.

Its more "Tense" than scary, or horrifying, the feeling of Audition is sorta indescribable.

whats so shocking and disturbing?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by knoxville [/i]
[B]whats so shocking and disturbing? [/B][/QUOTE]

There is some unsanctioned eye acupuncture. Torture is what makes it shocking and disturbing to others but I was bored with it. Oh and a thin sharp wire is used to detach parts.

POSSIBLE SPOILER

A girl's father uses these very hot steel rods to burn the inside of her thighs and possibly even farther in between her legs but I could only find the slightly edited version.

sounds like a fucked up version of that flick with kth bates when she kidnaps the suthor and tortues him to make him keep writing

What is shocking is that it starts off seeming to be a ridiculous
romantic comedy then seems to become a "psychological thriller",
then it just hits you with a horrific torture scene at the end. It
was nothing like Misery.

Well, no one in this thread so far actually understood what the film was about, that much is obvious.

Aoyama is a widower of 7 years and he's not getting any younger. His son suggests that he get remarried, that he find someone new. Aoyama works at a movie production house, and one of his colleagues suggests that they hold a fake audition where Aoyama can choose whatever girl he wants from the hundreds that are trying out. He falls madly in love with Asami, and begins to wine and dine her. Eventually he tells her that the movie isn't going to go through, but he wants to continue seeing her. He also promises that he will love her, and only her. Eventually, she more or less disappears and Aoyama begins searching for her. He starts coming across weird stories regarding places from her past and it begins to look like Asami isn't your average everyday girl. At the end of film (since you're asking us to ruin it for you instead of seeing it, which is why I'm going to do it since your request is irrefutably stupid) Asami poisons Aoyama's drink. He has a momentary flash (lasting actually about 15-20 minutes) of different things that he's heard about Asami. He visualizes all the things that she's done and this is his realization of what she has done to the men from her past. When he hits the ground, Asami begins to torture him. She sticks needles in various parts of his body, then begins to dismember him with a wire before Aoyama's son comes home unexpectedly. Asami had been betrayed several times in the past by men. She asked that Aoyama love her and only her, but he also had a son and other such loves in his life. She didn't want this, and her extreme posessiveness is what leads her to her torturing of Aoyama. She wanted to establish that she wanted his love, and only his love. In the end, she gets kicked down a flight of stairs and has her neck broken, at which point Aoyama's words from earlier in the film ring back in his head but take on a whole new meaning.

For those who found it funny, I'm sure these are the same people who thought that The Matrix was "too fake". People seem to be afraid to let themselves get drawn into a film and lose themselves in the escapist nature of the art form. Instead, people love to over analyze the fact that what they're seeing is being directed and is essentially not real. The film is separated into 3 very distinct acts and is done so for a reason, one that you would understand moreso if you've seen other Miike films or had read the book Audition was based on. Regardless, the film is brilliant and Miike's style of directing is unique and lends itself very well to the picture.

Thank you for summarizing the last half of the movie with absolutely no analysis whatsoever. If you ask me, it's pretty hard to immerse yourself when Miike throws a huge twist like that in the middle of the film. There isn't that much to understand about a film that tries to stir people up by shocking them. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great movie, but that's all there is to it. No offense, but I think you made up some other dimension to this film to "understand."

The Matrix isn't too fake. I'm willing to accept the fact that the directors don't have 100 Hugo Weaving clones lying around somewhere in addition to the fact that Keanu Reeves really can't fly. It's a good movie, but again, it's another movie that should be taken at face value.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]Well, no one in this thread so far actually understood what the film was about, that much is obvious.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Well, since your the expert, tell me what I misunderstood. You have only recapped the film and then told me that I dont escape into films. And I would love to see more Miike but I lack the money to purchase DVDs and the video stores that carry his films.

High-and-mighty fucks like you are hilarious.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]Thank you for summarizing the last half of the movie with absolutely no analysis whatsoever. If you ask me, it's pretty hard to immerse yourself when Miike throws a huge twist like that in the middle of the film. There isn't that much to understand about a film that tries to stir people up by shocking them. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great movie, but that's all there is to it. No offense, but I think you made up some other dimension to this film to "understand."

The Matrix isn't too fake. I'm willing to accept the fact that the directors don't have 100 Hugo Weaving clones lying around somewhere in addition to the fact that Keanu Reeves really can't fly. It's a good movie, but again, it's another movie that should be taken at face value. [/B][/QUOTE]

Agreed. You said it better.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]Thank you for summarizing the last half of the movie with absolutely no analysis whatsoever. If you ask me, it's pretty hard to immerse yourself when Miike throws a huge twist like that in the middle of the film. There isn't that much to understand about a film that tries to stir people up by shocking them. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great movie, but that's all there is to it. No offense, but I think you made up some other dimension to this film to "understand."

The Matrix isn't too fake. I'm willing to accept the fact that the directors don't have 100 Hugo Weaving clones lying around somewhere in addition to the fact that Keanu Reeves really can't fly. It's a good movie, but again, it's another movie that should be taken at face value. [/B][/QUOTE]

I made up things? She wasn't betrayed by her "ballet teacher" or the music company guy? Aoyama wasn't piecing the puzzle together in his head right before he hit the floor? The twist isn't so unexpected if you pay attention to everything going on before it. The whole movie they play out the love story and throw in small reminders that Asami is a fucked up bitch with a twisted sense of posession and love. These reminders are then explained in a fuller extent during Aoyama's sudden realization. Asami puking in the bowl and feeding it to the record executive. The scenes at the ballet shop where her stepfather cut her and degraded her. It all rushes over Aoyama and he realizes now that he's to endure the same fate as these men and there is nothing he can do about it. But in the end, when Asami is downed, Aoyama realizes that she loved him too, so much so that she wanted to make him completely hers. If she cuts off his feet, then he can't get away from her. If she shows him pain and loss, then he will understand what they are and more closely relate to her own pain and loss (the fact that she could no longer be a ballerina for instance). But I suppose I'm just making this shit up and giving myself a reason to enjoy the film. I mean, it's not like it's based on a book or anything.

Yeah what you have there is called PLOT...that's not a hidden meaning behind the movie. What you have there is not a greater understanding of the film, but instead you have a series of facts that everyone with some degree of intelligence who sits down and watches the movie will pick up on. Saying I didn't understand the film is incorrect, as it didn't take me (or TSB, or anyone else on this thread for that matter) more than one viewing of the movie to catch what you said above. It's not rocket science.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]Yeah what you have there is called PLOT...that's not a hidden meaning behind the movie. What you have there is not a greater understanding of the film, but instead you have a series of facts that everyone with some degree of intelligence who sits down and watches the movie will pick up on. Saying I didn't understand the film is incorrect, as it didn't take me (or TSB, or anyone else on this thread for that matter) more than one viewing of the movie to catch what you said above. It's not rocket science. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, no shit, I've only seen the movie once myself. However, you explicitly said I was making things up in my first post. Anything said in my first post, I detailed in my second post. Therefore, I made nothing up, and your accusation is apparently an attempt to get a rise out of me or elevate yourself into some "movie analyst" position above me. Also, you claim the twist prevented you from enjoying the film, but the twist was eluded to throughout the film and served as a fitting climax to the film. If it caught you by surprise, then I'm sorry. Admittedly, I didn't quite catch what was going on immediately, but it all started making sense about 5 minutes into the finale.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]Yeah, no shit, I've only seen the movie once myself. However, you explicitly said I was making things up in my first post. Anything said in my first post, I detailed in my second post. Therefore, I made nothing up, and your accusation is apparently an attempt to get a rise out of me or elevate yourself into some "movie analyst" position above me. Also, you claim the twist prevented you from enjoying the film, but the twist was eluded to throughout the film and served as a fitting climax to the film. If it caught you by surprise, then I'm sorry. Admittedly, I didn't quite catch what was going on immediately, but it all started making sense about 5 minutes into the finale. [/B][/QUOTE]

The twist being eluded to means nothing. It was eluded to in Mulholland Dr. and not one honest person every could say they immediately understood what the hell it was all about.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]Also, you claim the twist prevented you from enjoying the film, but the twist was eluded to throughout the film and served as a fitting climax to the film.[/B][/QUOTE]

What the hell are you talking about? Seriously, I just said I loved the movie. I paid 20 dollars for it.

Yes, the twist was foreshadowed, but that's irrelevant. The final scenes are not shocking because you find out Asame is psychotic (which I assume is what these 'allusions' you mention are to), they are shocking because of the things she does to Aoyama. The shock of the finale is what brings this movie together.

The part I found funny about this whole thing is that halfway through the movie you're looking at these humorous auditions from innocent girls, and 45 minutes later you're watching Asame put needles in Aoyama's eyes.

I don't claim to be a film analyst, as being able to point out common sense does not elevate me higher than you, or anyone else for that matter.

i need to be exposed to more asian horror. eery time one is mentionned all i think of is the bad ones i see on tv where even tho they are speaking some sort of asian language, it still sounds likes its dubbed and everyone is over expressive.
whats a real good asian horror film to see, one thta everyone can agree on

Ringu can be pretty scary if you're not sitting around with a bunch of friends joking it.

hmmm i saw the shitty remake so im a bit discouraged to see it, but i may give it a try

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by twosmokingbarre [/i]
[B]The twist being eluded to means nothing. It was eluded to in Mulholland Dr. and not one honest person every could say they immediately understood what the hell it was all about. [/B][/QUOTE] \

You seem to be making a fuss over the change being so drastic, but I don't see it as such, personally. Like I said, it confused me for about 5 minutes but I caught on quickly. As for deeper meaning, the film explores the nature of trust and it's place in relationships. How every good relationship is built on trust, yet this one turned out so miserable between two such trusting people. It covers the old adage of "appearances can be deceiving" better than any film before it, too.

thats so generic its not even funny. if analysed enopugh any fucking movie can hold up to the theme of "appearance can be decieving" and "relationships need trust"

Dumb and Dumber: if Loyd trusted Harry enough, than they could have gone to Aspen without Harry being under misconception

Batman and Robyn: poison ivy useta be a lil scientist lady who took crap from everyone she met, but she was driven over the edge into a sexy brod with akink for the kill

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by knoxville [/i]
[B]thats so generic its not even funny. if analysed enopugh any fucking movie can hold up to the theme of "appearance can be decieving" and "relationships need trust"

Dumb and Dumber: if Loyd trusted Harry enough, than they could have gone to Aspen without Harry being under misconception

Batman and Robyn: poison ivy useta be a lil scientist lady who took crap from everyone she met, but she was driven over the edge into a sexy brod with akink for the kill [/B][/QUOTE]

Generic or not, this time it actually applies because Aoyama trusted Asami more than he trusted his friend and it ended up being a horrible decision, the worst of his life. Also, remember the lines about "those who remember the past are condemned to repeat it" and all that talk. Well, Asami couldn't let go of her troubled past, and Aoyama couldn't let go of the memory of his wife and it put both of them in horrible positions. They always looked to the past for answers when they should have been looking to the future (particularly Aoyama).

i actually thought that the end hinted at the idea that none of this really happened at all. like having them wake up again in the hotel and an alternate path being played out. i though that the film did a good job of playing on perceptions, and i dont think it has a cut and dry answer as many on this thread would like to believe.

the reason knoxville should SEE this movie rather than being told about it is because the reason why this movie works so well is not because it is a HORROR film so much as it is a shocker. the first hour and a half (with the exception of some really disturbing flashes to her apartment) is this amazingly well done build up to the last 30 minutes. i agree that you need to see this movie rather than just expect people to tell you why they thought it was good.

You guys have to stop fighting!

Let's all just agree that it was Fuckin Amazing and leave it at that.