Any UFC/Pride Fans?

I like men's butts

and i cannot lie

I saw that Donald Trump beat the shit out of Vince McMahon and got to shave his head but then Stone Cold Steve Austin came in and knocked em both the fuck out!

[QUOTE=karbunkle;948695]I saw that Donald Trump beat the shit out of Vince McMahon and got to shave his head but then Stone Cold Steve Austin came in and knocked em both the fuck out![/QUOTE]
Brock Lesner is going to be having his first MMA match later this month, I wonder how well he'll handle taking a real hit?

Bob Sapp was a pro wrestler/MMA hybrid as well. Cro Cop shattered his orbital bone with one brutal hit...

My favorite MMA clip so far:[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5P_fWSt_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5P_fWSt_U[/URL]

I hate one sided fights, and I was thinking the ref should jump in and stop this before Sakuraba got permanently damaged. And then... tap!

[QUOTE=monkeywright;948779]Bob Sapp was a pro wrestler/MMA hybrid as well. Cro Cop shattered his orbital bone with one brutal hit...

My favorite MMA clip so far:[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5P_fWSt_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5P_fWSt_U[/URL]

I hate one sided fights, and I was thinking the ref should jump in and stop this before Sakuraba got permanently damaged. And then... tap![/QUOTE]
You can never count Saku out, but shit I dont know what he was thinking, he needed to disengage and get the guy to come after him, instead of getting puched in the head while he keeps looking for a leg. Saku is one of my favs, but hes getting sloppy.

Combat sport viewers are the most despicable losers of the modern world.

I'm gonna go ahead and say, if I could watch it more, I would. But it's not caught on too well on TV over here, so I don't.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;948795]Combat sport viewers are the most despicable losers of the modern world.[/QUOTE]
If you mean the meathead types, then yes. But all of us? That seems a bit close minded.

you like to look at dudes!

[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus;948836]you like to look at dudes![/QUOTE]

No, no, NOOOOOO....no.
We like to look at [B]half-naked[/B] dudes violently hugging each other. My wife makes fun of me every time I watch fighting, but hey, what can you do but agree?

All sports are combat sports.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;948795]Combat sport viewers are the most despicable losers of the modern world.[/QUOTE]

What a fuck head you are, franc. How could you even say something so ignorant? Combat sports viewers could be anybody. You don't realize the low risk that's actually involved with MMA. Less people get hurt in MMA than NFL. Nobody has ever been killed. What makes the sport's viewers despicable losers?

[QUOTE=Nightrious;949162]What a fuck head you are, franc.[/QUOTE]
I can't disagree here.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949162]How could you even say something so ignorant? Combat sports viewers could be anybody.[/QUOTE]
The ARE anybody, just the masses of consumers.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949162]You don't realize the low risk that's actually involved with MMA. Less people get hurt in MMA than NFL. Nobody has ever been killed.[/QUOTE]
MMA and NFL football are sports that don't respect the sportsmen. No big difference between them.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949162]What makes the sport's viewers despicable losers?[/QUOTE]
Because they don't have enough balls to fight themselves. They just enjoy the cruel show of violence. I actually respect the fighters, even if what they do is not good for them.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;949170]I can't disagree here.

The ARE anybody, just the masses of consumers.

MMA and NFL football are sports that don't respect the sportsmen. No big difference between them.

Because they don't have enough balls to fight themselves. They just enjoy the cruel show of violence. I actually respect the fighters, even if what they do is not good for them.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I'm sorry I called you a fuck head. You are absolutely one cool dude.

But man, why does MMA get so much hatred? It seems to me that people seem to just hate the sport for their own personal reasons. Traditional Martial Artists hate MMA... Tough guys really hate MMA, the kind of brawlers you find in bars, they're...I don't know, intimidated by it. They hate it because it's an actual proving ground. They have no technique, they think the way of fighting is to go crazy and swing at the other person, they don't want to be told that these skinny Jiu Jitsu guys can bend them all up or that a lean, agile boxer can out punch them effortlessly with swift technique and superior speed and agility. I think the martial artists, karate guys and the like, they hate it because their art has been proven ineffective in MMA. Then there's your guys that just completely don't understand what fighting is and see it only as violence, and then there's the people like Fiberoptic Jesus that insist it's a homosexual act. I mean, the homosexual dominance angle is obviously there, but it gets way too much play. The truth is that fiberoptic jesus is intensely weak from a physical perspective and I guess he enjoys the idea that all these tough guys are really just faggots, despite the fact that most of them are happily married to women.

Fighting is something we do. As humans, as animals...We have always fought and we always will. It's in our blood. It's an art, it's a science, it's anything you want to be. It's a dynamic sport, more intricate than any other. It isn't like basketball where the advantage goes to the taller man. Nobody knows what makes a winner when two people fight. This sport is so much more exciting than anything else on TV. And yeah, a lot of the fans are bone heads. A lot of them boo as soon as the fight goes to the ground and becomes a grappling chess match. They mostly want to just see people get hurt. They want teeth knocked out, noses broken. DON'T JUDGE THE WHOLE SPORT BY THESE SHITHEADS! And by God don't judge all combat sports by those shit heads. Judo competition is highly respected by the fans for the simple art of it, and it is not at all brutal. The same goes for most Karate and Tae Kwon Do tournaments, though the latter can get deadly. Wrestling, fencing- these are all combat sports, and they are all very safe and respectable, as are the fans. The fans that are animals are inevitably attracted by the violence, and yeah, they really do turn my stomach.

[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]But man, why does MMA get so much hatred? It seems to me that people seem to just hate the sport for their own personal reasons. Traditional Martial Artists hate MMA... Tough guys really hate MMA, the kind of brawlers you find in bars, they're...I don't know, intimidated by it.[/QUOTE]
MMA people claim everywhere that they can kick any ass, which of course is silly. What do you expect ? Are they likely to win the popularity contest ?
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]They hate it because it's an actual proving ground. They have no technique, they think the way of fighting is to go crazy and swing at the other person, they don't want to be told that these skinny Jiu Jitsu guys can bend them all up or that a lean, agile boxer can out punch them effortlessly with swift technique and superior speed and agility. I think the martial artists, karate guys and the like, they hate it because their art has been proven ineffective in MMA.[/QUOTE]
If you want to win a MMA contest, it's logical to train MMA, so any other method is naturally disadvantaged. It still doesn't make MMA the definitive proving ground. It can give some valuable information, but the true test happens on the field of life and death, where you don't know when and where your enemy will come from, what it will have in hand, and when you don't have weeks to condition yourself and study videos.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]Then there's your guys that just completely don't understand what fighting is and see it only as violence, and then there's the people like Fiberoptic Jesus that insist it's a homosexual act. I mean, the homosexual dominance angle is obviously there, but it gets way too much play. The truth is that fiberoptic jesus is intensely weak from a physical perspective and I guess he enjoys the idea that all these tough guys are really just faggots, despite the fact that most of them are happily married to women.[/QUOTE]
I don't care about the homosexuality, it doesn't prove anything. What bothers me is the justification of violence. Those guys can punch each other, but they should accept that masochism as being part of what they do, at least at the highest competitive levels. And for all, the need to prove something, which is a weakness.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]Fighting is something we do. As humans, as animals...We have always fought and we always will. It's in our blood.[/QUOTE]
I don't buy it. Fighting in competition is mostly an ego thing.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]It's an art, it's a science, it's anything you want to be. It's a dynamic sport, more intricate than any other. It isn't like basketball where the advantage goes to the taller man. Nobody knows what makes a winner when two people fight. This sport is so much more exciting than anything else on TV.[/QUOTE]
A good author once wrote that watching football on tv was like watching porn when you could have great sex.
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]And yeah, a lot of the fans are bone heads. A lot of them boo as soon as the fight goes to the ground and becomes a grappling chess match. They mostly want to just see people get hurt. They want teeth knocked out, noses broken. DON'T JUDGE THE WHOLE SPORT BY THESE SHITHEADS! And by God don't judge all combat sports by those shit heads.[/QUOTE]
Then, should I judge the combat sports by the steroids, the bending of the rules, the media hysteria ,and the exploitation of the fighters by all the managers and entourage ?
[QUOTE=Nightrious;949214]Judo competition is highly respected by the fans for the simple art of it, and it is not at all brutal. The same goes for most Karate and Tae Kwon Do tournaments, though the latter can get deadly. Wrestling, fencing- these are all combat sports, and they are all very safe and respectable, as are the fans. The fans that are animals are inevitably attracted by the violence, and yeah, they really do turn my stomach.[/QUOTE]
I don't respect karate or judo in their competitive versions either. They are just caricatures, and the negation of true skill.

[img]http://a971.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_31d79496a237e55467a5b93fb4653692.jpg[/img]

Bob Sapp. To put this in perspective keep in mind that I am 5'10" and bench 300 lbs. That's how big he REALLY is.

Yeah, I might know a thing or two about MMA. And by two I mean everything.

All I have to say to the ner' do wells is you can talk all the talk you like but no coward has ever stepped into a ring, plenty have typed their opinions on the internet.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]If you want to win a MMA contest, it's logical to train MMA, so any other method is naturally disadvantaged. It still doesn't make MMA the definitive proving ground. It can give some valuable information, but the true test happens on the field of life and death, where you don't know when and where your enemy will come from, what it will have in hand, and when you don't have weeks to condition yourself and study videos.

[/QUOTE]

mma isn't something you train like going to a karate school...its hybrid...any combination can enter and compete.

schools that advertise themselves as "mma" schools are usually a substandard institution and are just selling the hype.

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[QUOTE=Masochism;948670]
I know there is another guy on here that watches MMA, but is there anyone else?

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i watch a lot of UFC.......this weekend my BJJ instructor and 2 teammates are fighting in houston.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]MMA people claim everywhere that they can kick any ass, which of course is silly. What do you expect ? Are they likely to win the popularity contest ?
[/QUOTE]
You've talked to MMA people everywhere? I can't think of any serious competitor that would talk like that. About the popularity contest, wtf? I don't know what you're even on about there...
[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]
If you want to win a MMA contest, it's logical to train MMA, so any other method is naturally disadvantaged. It still doesn't make MMA the definitive proving ground. It can give some valuable information, but the true test happens on the field of life and death, where you don't know when and where your enemy will come from, what it will have in hand, and when you don't have weeks to condition yourself and study videos.[/QUOTE]
It's logical to train MMA? A lot of top competitors disagree with each others training methods, ideas, strategies, and arts, etc...pretty much the only thing agreed on by just about everybody is Jiu Jitsu.

I never said MMA was a definitive proving ground, I said it was a proving ground, and it is. It's the closest thing we have to a definitive proving ground and let's hope there never is a definitive proving ground.

About the life or death thing... yeah, that's all true, but if you pit one martial artist against another, in a life or death situation or in a cage, the better man is just as likely to come out on top either way.

[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]
I don't care about the homosexuality, it doesn't prove anything. What bothers me is the justification of violence. Those guys can punch each other, but they should accept that masochism as being part of what they do, at least at the highest competitive levels. And for all, the need to prove something, which is a weakness.[/QUOTE]

The need to prove something is a weakness that has allowed mankind to take pretty much every step we've taken thus far.
[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]
I don't buy it. Fighting in competition is mostly an ego thing.[/QUOTE]

You don't buy what? You don't think we fought back when we were apes? You don't think fighting has been a part of every single culture on the planet in the history of human life?
[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]
Then, should I judge the combat sports by the steroids, the bending of the rules, the media hysteria ,and the exploitation of the fighters by all the managers and entourage ?[/QUOTE]
fonofnndurrrr, what? Every fucking sport has steroids. Every occupation involving managers involves exploitation. That shit isn't relevant to this conversation. People cheat because they're people, not because of what they're involved in. Cheaters cheat. What's a nigga gonna do?
[QUOTE=franc tireur;949297]
I don't respect karate or judo in their competitive versions either. They are just caricatures, and the negation of true skill.[/QUOTE]

Well, errr...ok. Obviously there are zounds of people that would disagree with that, as it is your personal opinion that you so humbly love to state as fact. But I could give a shit. The true skill of those arts and how they're emulated in competition doesn't excuse the training, dedication and hardship that those athletes put into the sport, which is respectable to me.

Nightrious put it best, but heres about all I have to say...

Franc, I get where you are coming from, but your logic is flawed. I respect all forms of the Martial Arts, they all have their good points, but no form is the best or end all be all. Thats why I follow MMA, to me it is the closets thing to a decent proving ground.

MMA may not fair that well outside of the ring, but neither will anything else, most people carry guns now. No 10th dan is going to stop a bullet or anyone else for that matter, but you know that, plus most of them all practice katas that will probley never get to apply outside of their dojo in a real situation and will only claim what they can do.

So please dont lump everyone into the dumb jock/steroid head category. Yes, they are out there and im sure they are a large part of the following, unfortunately, but not everyone. I know that I dont fit in that box, Ive been into martial arts well before MMA was around, so this isnt a bandwagon thing.

Unfortunately with all the studying of Kung-Fu, Tai Chi, Judo, Jujitsu and others, that I have only gotten to practice Karate and that was when I was younger. I just havnt had the time or the money since then, to find a decent school in my area that isnt teaching some watered down basterdised McDojo bullshit.Either way, I love the art for what it is.

Anyway, I know you're into Aikido, but im not going to go off and call it lame just because Steven Seagal is, that would be ignorant.

Good to see im not alone here!

Night, JKuh, Monkey and Mad D. What MMA related sites do you follow, if any?

Here are a few of mine:

[url]http://www.fightopinion.com[/url]
[url]http://www.ufcjunkie.com[/url]
[url]http://www.pancrase.org[/url] (great for videos)
[url]http://www.sherdog.com[/url]
[url]http://www.mmaweekly.com[/url]
[url]http://www.mma.tv[/url]
[url]http://www.mmafighting.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Masochism;949372]Good to see im not alone here!

Night, JKuh, Monkey and Mad D. What MMA related sites do you follow, if any?

Here are a few of mine:

[url]http://www.fightopinion.com[/url]
[url]http://www.ufcjunkie.com[/url]
[url]http://www.pancrase.org[/url] (great for videos)
[url]http://www.sherdog.com[/url]
[url]http://www.mmaweekly.com[/url]
[url]http://www.mma.tv[/url]
[url]http://www.mmafighting.com[/url][/QUOTE]

i go to sherdog.net.....too many idiot posters. i go for the diet/nutrition section....some valuable info there.

mma.tv is a good one . you can find posts from guys like rogan, miletich, and eddie bravo there....
my name is on there if you click the link to the 4/14 "extreme challenge trials" event on the front page.

[QUOTE=JKuhlmann;949375]i go to sherdog.net.....too many idiot posters. i go for the diet/nutrition section....some valuable info there.

mma.tv is a good one . you can find posts from guys like rogan, miletich, and eddie bravo there....
my name is on there if you click the link to the 4/14 "extreme challenge trials" event on the front page.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Sherdog is good for news, but the forums are full of jackasses, I just lurk.

Whats your opinion of Rogan and Eddie? They are pretty crazy guys outside of doing UFC stuff, Rogan and Eddie being best friends, they are both huge pot heads, Rogan is big into LSD and Shrooms. The kind of guys I would like to hangout with and I would love to learn some Jujitsu from Eddie. His rubber guard and overall teaching method is insane.

If any of you are intrested, heres the link to Eddies school videos they post on Youtube: [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/4sakensoul[/url] - some good matches.

Too many idiot posters is right. When a new thread gets 6 pages before lunch I don;t bother. Here's my impression of sherdog:

TOPIC: Chuck vs. Rampage II

Post 1: Chuck will win
Post 2: Rampage will win
Post 3: Chuck by KO
Post 4: Rampage by...

and so on for 300 posts. No in depth analysis, just one line after one line of boring shit, mostly by 15-19 year olds. The funny part is there will be the above and 4+ identical threads about the exact same topicI actually got most of my topics deleted there for 1) dissing Koscheck personally and 2) I forgot. Fuck sherdog.

Also, anyone claiming that MMA training doesn't translate well to street fighting obviously hasn't taken their street skills and augmented them with cage skills. You'd be surprised how many loud mouths end up passing to the rear naked choke in public. It's smarter than making a big mess.

[QUOTE=Mad Daego;949304][img]http://a971.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_31d79496a237e55467a5b93fb4653692.jpg[/img]

Bob Sapp. To put this in perspective keep in mind that I am 5'10" and bench 300 lbs. That's how big he REALLY is..[/QUOTE]

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhPsBrAeI2U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhPsBrAeI2U[/URL]
Bad music aside...
It was insane watching Cro Cop take him down with one shot. Kinda disappointing, as Sapp is one of those rare big guys that I didn't want to see go down. One of the things I like about MMA is how quickly everything happens.

Anyone have an opinion on the superior league? IFL? BoDog? UFC? PRIDE? Or are there just too damn many trying to capitalize on the emerging market?

I dont follow IFL much, im not a fan of the whole team dynamic. I havnt seen any BoDog fights, the only thing that caught my eye is the Fedor vs Matt Lindland fight on the 14th, that should be good.

I was always more of a Pride guy myself, but UFC right behind. Im not sure what I think about the UFC wanting to use unified rules with the buyout of Pride, getting rid of soccer kicks is alright I think. Once the buyout is all said and done, I think its going to give some of the smaller Orgs problems.

Randy Couture on “The Late Late Show” Tonight!

Edit: Just saw this, Koscheck fights some dude that comes to his Gym: [url]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1mb7g_koscheckfight[/url]

IFL is shit. I thought they had a good concept for lowly skilled combatants, but they're now marketing IFL as a bloodfest, and before the fights they said, "Somebody's going to be leaving tonight on a stretcher." They also pay a bonus for knocking people out. IFL is promoting this sport in all the wrong ways.

The only good thing about IFL is the coaches. Bas Rutten, Maurice Smith, Frank Shamrock, Matt Lindland, Pat Miletech...awesome coaches. Too bad half the fighters suck. See some of the records these guys have? 10-14, 10-8...jesus.

Pride has been purchased by the UFC pretty much, so bye bye Pride. K-1 is interesting, but I haven't seen much of it and a lot of what I have seen makes me wonder if some of it is staged. Royce Gracie vs Yuki Ono or whatever, the big fat fuck, that fight looks fake to me for sure. Bodog I haven't seen yet, but Fedor vs Lindland will most likely be the biggest fight of the year, especially if Lindland gets the upset which I think he will.

UFC is king right now and it's only growing bigger.

As far as MMA sites go, I visit Sherdog and MMAweekly mostly, and I browse the sherdog forums and Fightforum.com, because if anything is going on those fiends are usually the first people to know.

how is it they're able to have these shows on weekly? what's the average span one fighter has between bouts? surely they don't fight once a week

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;949780]how is it they're able to have these shows on weekly? what's the average span one fighter has between bouts? surely they don't fight once a week[/QUOTE]

the top ufc guys will fight maybe 3 times per year.

but theres also guys like jeremy horn, who has @150 fights........he sometimes fights twice in a month in various organizations.

anyone watching the spike TV fights tonight? any predictions? i havn't heard of a lot of the guys.

[QUOTE=Nightrious;949777]Bodog I haven't seen yet, but Fedor vs Lindland will most likely be the biggest fight of the year, especially if Lindland gets the upset which I think he will.[/QUOTE]

And there I was, under the impression that you knew what you were talking about. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...

There is no stopping Fedor. Now repent!

Traditional Martial Artists are disappointed when watching MMA because there are some very basic things (especially as far as grappling goes) that these guys miss. There are huge training differences...MMA guys train to fight using strength, stamina, agression, etc., whereas Martial Arts (some at least) focus on technique and using your head when you fight. Both approaches are very different, and I think should both be respected.

[QUOTE=MechanicalHound;949867]Traditional Martial Artists are disappointed when watching MMA because there are some very basic things (especially as far as grappling goes) that these guys miss. There are huge training differences...MMA guys train to fight using strength, stamina, agression, etc., whereas Martial Arts (some at least) focus on technique and using your head when you fight. Both approaches are very different, and I think should both be respected.[/QUOTE]

while strength and agression can help a jiu jitsu player, stamina and technique are the MOST important. BJJ is the cornerstone of mma.

I was hopeing Mishima was going to do better than this. He looks tired early

edit: goddamn you Melvin!

Why is BJJ the only "Martial Art" people talk about? Hell...what about Japanese JJ, or Judo for that matter....not to mention all the other arts out there. Guess its just trendy

[QUOTE=Mad Daego;949851]And there I was, under the impression that you knew what you were talking about. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...

There is no stopping Fedor. Now repent![/QUOTE]

Hey, I know Fedor is most likely going to win... I just really hope that Matt Lindland wins.

I am excited to see the fancy Bodog camera stuff. It looks very, very appealing. Hopefully someone with more time, tech, and $ than I posts a decent torrent the next morning.

[QUOTE=MechanicalHound;950009]Why is BJJ the only "Martial Art" people talk about? Hell...what about Japanese JJ, or Judo for that matter....not to mention all the other arts out there. Guess its just trendy[/QUOTE]

because BJJ was unbeatable in early ufc's. its now a standard practice for anyone who wants to be successful in a no rules fight to be at least a blue belt defensively on the ground. trendy? try effective.

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I used to watch All Star Wresting. Guys like Tank McNamara or whatever.

Then I turned 9 and got over it.

This is a lot diffrent than that Chix.

[QUOTE=Chixulub;950260]I used to watch All Star Wresting. Guys like Tank McNamara or whatever.

Then I turned 9 and got over it.[/QUOTE]

And went on to make moronic posts like this.

Nightrous, and others, I am feeling generous today so I will let you in on my betting system in you're ever on the floor of the casino when a UFC comes on. At casions you can generally bet until the bell rings, and this is what counts.

The ring walk, but more importantly, what the figher is wearing. I have called every single fight of doubtful outcome I have ever seen on what the figher is wearing. Now, some stuff is obvious and I don't need "the system" but others, when there's a smidgen of doubt, count on this:

Hip-hop guys are a bunch of pussies who don't take advice and naturally rebel against authority of any sort, hence anyone who has a hip-hop attitude cannot benefit from training. And they NEVER learn, look at Shoney Carter, 80 pro fights or something and he still does idiotic shit and loses? Every boisterous, motormouth rap type guy I've ever seen in MMA gets made into a joke. The more boogie influence in the clothing the worse off the figher is, and this is compounded by the color of the clothing. Brown is bad, I called St. Pierre's victory over Hughes based on Hughes brown (non-commital color says something about a persons state of mind and character) Echo (brand having nothing to do with anything Hughes "believes" in or represents, indicates the loss of soul) hoody. He's worn it since, but for lesser opponents. Matt can only hope to defeat St. Pierre by wearing black.

This week I saw Georges wearing one of those stupid Bam Marjera caps that are half knit but also brimmed, they can't decide if they're a cap or a beanie, cocked to the side! Nothing says "douche" like one of those hats... cocked to the side.

Beware the Terror.

Thats interesting, MadD. I'll have to remember that if im ever betting, or just when im watching to see if things work out that way.

[QUOTE=Nightrious;949777] ...Bas Rutten... [/QUOTE]

Was a trainer for a friend of mine... way back.

[QUOTE=Mad Daego;950431].

Beware the Terror.[/QUOTE]

win or lose he is going to impress the hell out of a lot of know nothing non believers today.

[QUOTE=Masochism;950414]This is a lot diffrent than that Chix. ;)[/QUOTE]

Different how, exactly?

[QUOTE=Nightrious;950416]And went on to make moronic posts like this.[/QUOTE]

Moronic posts that mock faux wrestling? As opposed to what, moronic posts that defend it as if it were a legitmate sport?

[QUOTE=Chixulub;950501]Different how, exactly?

Moronic posts that mock faux wrestling? As opposed to what, moronic posts that defend it as if it were a legitmate sport?[/QUOTE]
MMA isnt fake, is the diffrence.

Serra by firts round KO. Shocked the world.

My undefeated streak as a MMA handicapper continues. I have never been wrong. The sad part is I don't bet $.

Now here's the skinny. Serra won't be able to stave off Hughes, Hughes wont be able to stave off Koscheck but the outcome is up in the air, and we've got GSP on a return rampage to consider who is always more dangerous when he's got something to prove and also needs to move out of his parent's house. Welterweight division, as always, the UFC's most exciting division.