“I have a bad feeling about this,” George Lucas.
I have to blow off some steam. I saw Episode III in the theaters and was swept up in the effects: an opiate that blocks out dialogue and story. Now that I watched the DVD plus the extras I have to say Lucas’ power issues piss me off. The whole damn saga is about not giving into the darkside yet that’s what he’s done.
For one, some dialogue was recycled from Episode IV, V, VI. That’s just shit slop lazy slop shit.
Second, why did he have to have his hands in every detail? Everything from stunts, makeup, hair, food, bathroom chorography, rash removal, and pissing green blood drug test. Couldn’t he have focused on the script and story allowing his crew some breathing space? You’d think he was Vader the way they all nod their heads and tip toe around him.
My biggest grumble is with the script. If all he wanted to do was play around with digital effects why couldn’t he allow a writer to write the damn thing? I know that would never happen so at least have enough humility to allow someone to look over your shoulder and say, “George, you used those lines in episode V,” or “stop using cliches!” If he had I’m certain we would have less wooden performances and plotting.
The only one that really takes a dig at the production in Ewan McGregor, Yoda blesses him.
FUCK ALL OF Y'ALL!....you two. Them Gungans should have ruled all three episodes. They were way cooler than them shitty little ewoks, bunch of midget fur wearing shit pellets hanging off hairy asses.
O to the MG, THE YOUNGLINGS!
So this dude has killed a bunch of little kids and all I can do is sit twisted in my cinema seat practically crying with the laughter.
I like how the robut doc acts like he knows Padme is dying of a broken heart. Piece of shit robut!
i thought Episode III sucked so much monkey balls that i forgot about it existing until i saw it for sale the other day. it wasn't as bad as Episode II, but neither were worth consideration for purchase.
i like jase' line about suing himself for copyright infrigement. but i'd have to say his line of defense would be inflated ego. hell, he created the fooking thing(s), i suppose he should have the right to kill them, right?
which he accomplished quite well...
what!!? THe MOviEs are AWESOME! I like all the "Help, Help Save me and the blasters adn the lightsabers and hte ObiWan with the Wing, Wing....WIIIIINNGG????."
I like how R2D2 kicks major robut ass, then in the later films he just buckets around like a toilet bowl and makes futuristic toilet sounds with a spinning rim and hop'n up and down like a possessed toilet.
i'm not saying it's oscar material, but i liked episode 3.
2 was alright, i guess.
1 was just shit, horrible terrible shit.
once yoda, the puppet, started to go medieval in the second one, hopping around like a kansas city faggot (what a great line from blazing saddles), then after it was over had to pick up his cane and is puppet like again, that's when i finally reached my [I]'what the fuck'[/I] threshold.
[QUOTE=JustinHolt]once yoda, the puppet, started to go medieval in the second one, hopping around like a kansas city faggot (what a great line from blazing saddles), then after it was over had to pick up his cane and is puppet like again, that's when i finally reached my [I]'what the fuck'[/I] threshold.[/QUOTE]
nothing... NOTHING... was worse than the advert tagline for Episode II and, i think, Taco Bell... "Yoda Da Man!"
*cringe*
made me want to kill kittens and people and butterflies
[QUOTE=izen]nothing... NOTHING... was worse than the advert tagline for Episode II and, i think, Taco Bell... "Yoda Da Man!"
*cringe*
made me want to kill kittens and people and butterflies[/QUOTE]
i should have taken the weather when i went to go see that movie in the theater as a sign...
it was snowing.
in june.
first and only time i've ever seen that in my life.
because at his venerable age the force gives him heart burn after prolong use.
[QUOTE=UbikRex]because at his venerable age the force gives him heart burn after prolong use.[/QUOTE]
you sure it wasn't a case of yodi haven not gotten laid for like 4000 years? hell, the fucker was all shriveled up. and green.
[QUOTE=JustinHolt] hell, the fucker was all shriveled up. and green.[/QUOTE]
anyways, yeah its a shame that the guy was too stubborn to recogniz his own limitations because damn these could have been incredible movies
^
you got a point...
he should have used bullet time modes like the matrix and have yoda fly everywhere and anankin call himself the one and then wing his dingies left and right and padme gets fat.
I never saw it, but it need more pandas with laserbeams and nintendo.
[QUOTE=Mr. Brown]I never saw it, but it need more pandas with laserbeams and nintendo.[/QUOTE]
MEGAMAN LIKE A MUDDAH FUCK!
[QUOTE=Dr.Jekyll&Mr.Hyde]I have to blow off some steam. I saw Episode III in the theaters and was swept up in the effects: an opiate that blocks out dialogue and story. [/quote]
No. You enjoyed yourself.
Jesus I hate you guys who go see a movie and have to pick it apart afterward when you enjoyed it at the time.
My friend saw The Island with me. Afterwards he went "Eh. Not too band. I had a pretty good time." Then a week later he was all bashing the performances and shit and was all "well, come to think of it, it wasnt that great."
PFFT. People should stick with gut reactions because thats the true indicator of if a film works or not.
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[QUOTE=Dr.Jekyll&Mr.Hyde]I have to blow off some steam. I saw Episode III in the theaters and was swept up in the effects: an opiate that blocks out dialogue and story. Now that I watched the DVD plus the extras I have to say Lucas’ power issues piss me off. The whole damn saga is about not giving into the darkside yet that’s what he’s done.
For one, some dialogue was recycled from Episode IV, V, VI. That’s just shit slop lazy slop shit.
Second, why did he have to have his hands in every detail? Everything from stunts, makeup, hair, food, bathroom chorography, rash removal, and pissing green blood drug test. Couldn’t he have focused on the script and story allowing his crew some breathing space? You’d think he was Vader the way they all nod their heads and tip toe around him.
My biggest grumble is with the script. If all he wanted to do was play around with digital effects why couldn’t he allow a writer to write the damn thing? I know that would never happen so at least have enough humility to allow someone to look over your shoulder and say, “George, you used those lines in episode V,” or “stop using cliches!” If he had I’m certain we would have less wooden performances and plotting.
The only one that really takes a dig at the production in Ewan McGregor, Yoda blesses him.[/QUOTE]
what some people miss about lucas is that he's not going to make a strictly hollywood movie. he's making his art. he's just like jim jarmusch or john sayles, just on an epic, multibillion dollar level (and you know, not as good a story teller anymore). these auteurs have their hands in every aspect of their film, instead of just coming in, doing a job and moving on. i can respect him for that, although i can't quite get behind his movies as much nowadays. it's the same way i feel about robert rodriquez--love or hate his films, but respect the guy for not compromising his views. i was listening to jonesy's jukebox on the radio today, and they were talking about how people are only awesomely creative for a couple years. a few years of pure inspiration amid a whole career of trying to recreate that. look at what paul mccartney did with the beatles verses everything afterwards, or bob dylan. same goes for lucas.
You guys do realize that the dialogue sucked in the first trilogy too, right? I mean, really sucked. And Mark Hamill really can't act. Don't get me wrong, I heart Star Wars as much as the next person, but damn. His dialogue is James Cameron-bad.
There is hope, but not for us.
the dialogue has definitely gotten progressively worse. and yeah, hamilton isn't a great actor, but he was the right guy for the roll, which is something lucas fucked up entirely in the newest three movies. with the exception of ewan mcgregor, and the dude playing emporer palpatine, there wasn't a well cast actor in them.
I just wanted to mention the younglings. I hated all the films and don't even remember much whether the dialogue sucked or not becuase when I saw the original trilogy on tape I kept falling to sleep and when I saw episodes 2 and 3 in the cinema I was just real bored the whole time.
Ages ago my mate at home made a compilation CD for his girlfriend but mixed it in with various movie quotes. Every time I hear the piano intro to that 'build me up buttercup' song I hear Harrison Ford saying 'I've got really bad feeling about this...'
!
This film needed that sixth sense kid in it and Owen Wilson as a stormtrooper and matt damon as a senator and....Keanu Reeves as a badass Jedi. He would have totally owned the part.
Keanu Reeves - Whats my direction for my character
George Lucas - I need you to be emotionless and answer in monotonous short sentences and whip out these expensive cgi'd glowsticks as you repeat rederict i've had spuddered out in my previous original films.
Keanu Reeves - ....You lost me at I.
[QUOTE=UbikRex]I like how R2D2 kicks major robut ass, then in the later films he just buckets around like a toilet bowl and makes futuristic toilet sounds with a spinning rim and hop'n up and down like a possessed toilet.[/QUOTE]
HAAAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAAaaaaaaaaAAAHAAHAH!
[QUOTE=izen]nothing... NOTHING... was worse than the advert tagline for Episode II and, i think, Taco Bell... "Yoda Da Man!"
*cringe*
made me want to kill kittens and people and butterflies[/QUOTE]
that was in there?
[QUOTE=Fiberoptic Jesus]No. You enjoyed yourself.
Jesus I hate you guys who go see a movie and have to pick it apart afterward when you enjoyed it at the time.
My friend saw The Island with me. Afterwards he went "Eh. Not too band. I had a pretty good time." Then a week later he was all bashing the performances and shit and was all "well, come to think of it, it wasnt that great."
PFFT. People should stick with gut reactions because thats the true indicator of if a film works or not.[/QUOTE]
no. I said in many old posts that the visuals were beautiful, that can't be denied. But don't think I wasn't covering my eyes when I actually listened to words. Yes it's his art, but what gets to me is that he had supposedly been writing the thing for 20 years and it feels like he wrote it the night before. For me the heart of any story is the words on the page. If you can argue that he wrote good dialogue and dynamics between the characters then I'd like to hear it. How many times do you have to use the word "power." there are a lot of metephors that symbolize power. i will say I bought Anikin's internal struggle. if there's one thing Hayden can capture is building frustration and hatred.
The paint was vivid and beautiful, the substance underneath could have easily excelled with a little advice.
Don't hate. "Hatred is the path to the darkside."
[QUOTE=alex cassun]what some people miss about lucas is that he's not going to make a strictly hollywood movie. he's making his art. he's just like jim jarmusch or john sayles, just on an epic, multibillion dollar level (and you know, not as good a story teller anymore). these auteurs have their hands in every aspect of their film, instead of just coming in, doing a job and moving on. i can respect him for that, although i can't quite get behind his movies as much nowadays. it's the same way i feel about robert rodriquez--love or hate his films, but respect the guy for not compromising his views. i was listening to jonesy's jukebox on the radio today, and they were talking about how people are only awesomely creative for a couple years. a few years of pure inspiration amid a whole career of trying to recreate that. look at what paul mccartney did with the beatles verses everything afterwards, or bob dylan. same goes for lucas.[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong. I'm a grew up with starwars and will always be a fan. Lucas has my respect, but if he had had a dose of humility the movies would have benefited. I actually tried defending Episode I when it came out because I wanted so bad for it to be good. But when your honest withself you say, "Lucas where was your apprentice?"
[QUOTE=UbikRex]This film needed that sixth sense kid in it and Owen Wilson as a stormtrooper and matt damon as a senator and....Keanu Reeves as a badass Jedi. He would have totally owned the part.
Keanu Reeves - Whats my direction for my character
George Lucas - I need you to be emotionless and answer in monotonous short sentences and whip out these expensive cgi'd glowsticks as you repeat rederict i've had spuddered out in my previous original films.
Keanu Reeves - ....You lost me at I.[/QUOTE]
hahahaahah! That's good java. 



I can't think of a single good line of dialog in all the prequels. Not one. NOT ONE.
When Vader screams out "NOOOOO" I almost laughed my ass off. I thought I was watching a parody.
I may have been expecting too much, but Episode III was the biggest letdown of all of them. The only things that worked were, as you said, recycled - most of all the final shots (Vader with the crossed arms, Luke on tatooine), the emperor's deformation, and Vader's mutilation/reconstruction. But none of that was good writing. That was good effects work. Dooku's dispatching was pretty cool too, probably the highlight of the new material.
Fucking hell. I wish George Lucas from 30 years ago could sue himself for copyright infringement.