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The best thing I can say about that whole paragraph is that there are no misspellings. What else does it have going for it? It's not offensive to the senses?

Imagery? Grace? The feeling of falling--falling out of your peer group, along and through the cracks of a roboticized social hive that has long kept your drone instincts drunk on the illusion of unity?

No, I get none of that whatsoever from the quoted paragraph.

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Joseph Suglia's review. The prose is unbearably, pointlessly turgid.

*ding*

You're picking out this particular Suglia gag as turgid? Everything Suglia writes is more bloated than a week-old corpse.

Really, the guy's known exclusively as an Amazon troll, why would you even read his crap?

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pssst, Tuffy ... I'm pretty sure he was stating that he agrees with Suglia's review.

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(I know, Kit. One of the things we do here a lot these days is tease Joe Suglia about his writing whenever he re-registers under a new screen name to rave about how brilliant a writer "Dr." Joseph Suglia is. He's not. He's actually pretty poor, but he either has an absurdly high opinion of his talent, or he's some sort of meta-satire. Possibly. No one's really sure.)

It occurs to me now that "Suglia" or some variation needs to be added to the Lexicon and the Iconography.

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well i guess my thread got Sugliad

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Less Than Zero is pretty fucking great, although it's one of Ellis' weaker novels, ie. not one of the greatest American novels of the last century the way his last 3 are.

I'm glad someone feels qualified to say what the last century's Big Books were!

Oh sorry, in future I'll be sure to qualify all statements with "I think" or "in my opinion."


It takes a lot, lot, lot of reading to be able to even half-justify making such comments.
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No, I know. You're right. Uh...let's see...Infinite Jest is pretty damn terrible, at least what I was able to slog through. Definitely worse than Tell-All.

This is so offensive to me. What is bad about Infinite Jest?

Disclaimer: I only read the fist 100 pages [because I thought it sucked so much].

I don't know, I basically agree word for word with Dr. Joseph Suglia's review. The prose is unbearably, pointlessly turgid.

You are such a fucking idiot. You said before that you mananged to "slog through it." That means reading 100 pages? And, really, you are agreeing with Suglia? Have you never even been to this site before?

Reread my post, dickhead. I said "at least what I was able to slog through" was terrible, ie. I WASN'T ABLE TO READ THE WHOLE THING. Jesus, fuck off.

And if you think I care about what "this site" thinks about "Suglia"...uh, go fuck yourself.

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what's a Suglia? he's come up in like 6 of the 10 threads i've read

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I liked Less Than Zero. Read it in one sitting last month. I thought that Ellis, having written it at such a young age, had a profound grasp of human nature. Ellis clearly grew into his talent as a writer with his later works though.

Granted, there were some things I didn't like about it but considering the age in when B.E.E wrote it I gave him leeway. Even without adjusting for the age scale, I'd give it a 3/5 stars. There a lot of novels I'd rate as the absolute worst book I've ever stuck with before I'd get to LTZ.

Damn, I was going to read Blood Meridian. So many people have told me to read it over the years. It's on my Amazon wish list.

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Read Blood Meridian. The prose is archaic because it's a fucking western. There are some awesome parts to that book and it's paced well. Don't let those women fool you.

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i've been hearing a lot of bad about that damn book of late. i really want to read both that and No Country. fuck it, i'm gonna do it. i love westerns,

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And if you think I care about what "this site" thinks about "Suglia"...uh, go fuck yourself.

You need to stop outing yourself so quickly.

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Read Blood Meridian. The prose is archaic because it's a fucking western. There are some awesome parts to that book and it's paced well. Don't let those women fool you.

I think you brought up a good point in your last line there. Blood Meridian is extremely masculine in almost ever regard. From the way it's written to the events that occur, it doesn't have much to entice female readers. It presents hordes of violent tragedies but remains at an emotional distance the entire time. Emotionally, the narration is extremely objective. But it includes a lot of philosophical musings that are anything but heartwarming.

Not to say that a woman can't enjoy it, but it certainly isn't what most women look for in literature. It's everything Jane Austin is not (except the archaic words Wink ).

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I have yet to read Blood Meridian, but The Road is my absolute favorite book, so I might take a stab at it. Then again, I hate westerns in general. We shall SEE!

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I also disliked Catcher in the Rye. Maybe I waited too late to read it, maybe I was in the wrong frame of mind. I just kept thinking "get your shit together and stop whining, Holden!"
I was hoping he'd get mugged a few times.

Try listening to this on audiobook...fucking awful!! It sounds like George Costanza or something. But yeah, I just didn't dig it at all really. I can see why it's a literary classic, but it came off outdated and boring to me.

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I liked Blood Meridian a lot. Got to get past the difficult first chapter and get used to the prose, but after that it definitely takes you there.

Not to be missed if you like Sam Peckinpah's films, The Wild Bunch in particular.

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trotchky wrote:
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No, I know. You're right. Uh...let's see...Infinite Jest is pretty damn terrible, at least what I was able to slog through. Definitely worse than Tell-All.

This is so offensive to me. What is bad about Infinite Jest?

Disclaimer: I only read the fist 100 pages [because I thought it sucked so much].

I don't know, I basically agree word for word with Dr. Joseph Suglia's review. The prose is unbearably, pointlessly turgid.

You are such a fucking idiot. You said before that you mananged to "slog through it." That means reading 100 pages? And, really, you are agreeing with Suglia? Have you never even been to this site before?

Reread my post, dickhead. I said "at least what I was able to slog through" was terrible, ie. I WASN'T ABLE TO READ THE WHOLE THING. Jesus, fuck off.

And if you think I care about what "this site" thinks about "Suglia"...uh, go fuck yourself.

Chill out with the insults--both of you. I don't care who started it. You're free to disagree, gripe, and argue, but do it like adults.

You've started down the path that ends with someone getting banned or suspended. Best squash it now and move on.

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Controversy!


I just hooted.
I like you, Phil.

And, to bring Ellis up again, i like him. I like the way he tells story and the complete ambivalence of his stories and the characters in them. That's really the best way i can describe his writing: ambivalent. So, i can see why people hate him, but i dig it.

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Not to say that a woman can't enjoy it, but it certainly isn't what most women look for in literature. It's everything Jane Austin is not (except the archaic words Wink ).

thanks for keeping us women in our place. i think i'll go and read Emma right now.

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FACT: bitches love Twilight.

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FACT: bitches love Twilight.

Wrong

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Not to say that a woman can't enjoy it, but it certainly isn't what most women look for in literature. It's everything Jane Austin is not (except the archaic words Wink ).

thanks for keeping us women in our place. i think i'll go and read Emma right now.

Personally, I find anything more logical than chicken soup for the soul to just be too much for my little brain to comprehend of interest.

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between the laundry, the cooking and the children, all i ever read these days are food labels and bedtime stories.

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FACT: bitches love Twilight.

Wrong


But it's a fact in all caps!
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ejrathke wrote:
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FACT: bitches love Twilight.

Wrong


But it's a fact in all caps!

and it's on the internet!

you're right, it must be true

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So glad you're back Kit!

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Not that it's a bad book, but I got absolutely nothing from it.

The Dog of Marriage by Amy Hempel. I was utterly unmoved by it, and I vaguely remember one part from it.

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Read Blood Meridian. The prose is archaic because it's a fucking western. There are some awesome parts to that book and it's paced well. Don't let those women fool you.

I think you brought up a good point in your last line there. Blood Meridian is extremely masculine in almost ever regard. From the way it's written to the events that occur, it doesn't have much to entice female readers. It presents hordes of violent tragedies but remains at an emotional distance the entire time. Emotionally, the narration is extremely objective. But it includes a lot of philosophical musings that are anything but heartwarming.

Not to say that a woman can't enjoy it, but it certainly isn't what most women look for in literature. It's everything Jane Austin is not (except the archaic words Wink ).

The funny thing is, I LOVE westerns, love love love. And I don't feel like I disliked Blood Meridian simply because of my gender (though it's probably part of the reason.)

Mostly I feel like that book was a whole lot of effort for basically no payoff, if I had to sum up why I disliked it. It was physically difficult to read (primarily because of the factors I mentioned like lack of quotation marks), and neither the plot nor the characters did anything to entice me. I only finished it because it was the favorite book of the person I was seeing at the time, who gave me the "If you read this book you'll understand me better as a person" speech (and who never bothered to read either of my favorite books). And I do understand him better as a person, now! I understand he's emotionally impotent and living a life that he feels he was saddled with, instead of being something awesome like a cowboy or an astronaut. Books, of course, are a form of escapism for all of us, and I definitely recognize the validity of that vis a vis a person's love of McCarthy. But for me, my life experiences, and what I like to escape to? I'd rather eat sand than read that book again.

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The Judge, though, jesus christe! He's one of my favorite characters ever. Like Ahab, but with cowboys and scalps instead of whales and harpoons.

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The Five People You Meet in Heaven. God, I hate that fucking book.

I liked that for some reason.

The Call of the Wild.

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Into the Wild.

You should have died on that mountain, Jon Krakauer.

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Blood Meridian is on my book shelf waiting to be read.

Me too. Might have to put it further down the pile until I forgoet someone said it was so shitty.
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The Call of the Wild.

I loved that one as a kid.

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Into the Wild.

You should have died on that mountain, Jon Krakauer.


Are you thinking of Into Thin Air?
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nope. Definitely Into the Wild. I hated it.

The movie did the boy's story better justice than that fucktard Krakauer. His commentary was what ruined it. His reasoning. His implied jabs that all seemed to say, His life was just a culmination of why he died this way. It's ridiculous for me to think of the reason of someone's death was how they lived their life. The boy ate the wrong goddamned berries. Period.

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Huxley's Brave New World

I am curious as to what exactly you hated about it so much. Do you care to elaborate?

someone else mentioned it is forced upon most because of school. it was shoved down my throat in high school, and again in college.

others mentioned how its story is so far ahead of its time. but that doesn't mean shit. just because someone has a great idea doesn't mean it's great to read it or watch it or hear about it if the execution is shit. and that's exactly what huxley's work is. at least bnw is. i refused to read anything else he wrote.

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definately the worst book that was ever written was "watch out" by "dr." joseph suglia. what a piece of shit. i was tricked in to buyin that piece of shit. i looked for the book at urban outfitters but they didnt have it. suglia thinks hes a great writer but his writting is total shit. suglia is an idiot prolly LMFAO!

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The Call of the Wild.

I loved that one as a kid.


It was horrible.
I think I didn't like it because of my teacher though, she made it hell.
And, Death Be Not Proud is pretty fucking bad, too.
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I hated The Lovely Bones. This chick I dont like asked could she borrowa book so I gave it to her. She hasnt asked me since.

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Suglia Vs. Suglia!

Battle Of The Titan, Round One.

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I liked Suglias book

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what's it about and why is it good?

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'Stranger in a Strange Land' is tied with 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. I no longer finish books that I'm not enjoying after those two.

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definately the worst book that was ever written was "watch out" by "dr." joseph suglia. what a piece of shit. i was tricked in to buyin that piece of shit. i looked for the book at urban outfitters but they didnt have it. suglia thinks hes a great writer but his writting is total shit. suglia is an idiot prolly LMFAO!

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'Stranger in a Strange Land' is tied with 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. I no longer finish books that I'm not enjoying after those two.

I hated Stranger in a Strange Land but struggled through it. It took me about 2 weeks to read it.

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'Stranger in a Strange Land' is tied with 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. I no longer finish books that I'm not enjoying after those two.

I hated Stranger in a Strange Land but struggled through it. It took me about 2 weeks to read it.

It took me a couple of days. I really have no idea why I finished it, just habit I guess. I used to finish every book I started.

I'm sorry to see 'Call of the Wild' and 'Blood Meridian' listed here as being hated. I love both of those books so much!

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'Stranger in a Strange Land' is tied with 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. I no longer finish books that I'm not enjoying after those two.

I hated Stranger in a Strange Land but struggled through it. It took me about 2 weeks to read it.

I liked the first half but it went downhill once he joined the carnival. I think the worst part about Stranger was all the potential that wasn't realized.

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The Celestine Prophecy was fucking new age trash disguised (not very well) as a novel.

Also, while I didn't hate Pride and Prejudice, I did struggle through it. There was just nothing relatable or interesting to me. My bigger problem with it is that, at least in my University, so many English students have it as their favourite book, and won't shut up about it. So it's now associative with pretentious idiots for me.

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You might like it better with the addition of zombies.

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