Tobacco-Stained Mountain Goat - Book Club July '11
hey, it ain't over yet. i'm glad you guys dug floyd and company so much. and i know andrez feels the same way. i miss the flood of emails me and andrez had going back and forth, the thousands of mega-long (and i mean that, they are sick, sick, long) emails that passed between us. it's the oddest feeling -- as anyone who has attempted a multi-year project knows, it can be all consuming. and then, finally, suddenly, it's finished. or, as close to finished as these things get, since i'm sure andrez and i could warble over a few words here and there if we really wanted to. and now there's this huge hole in my life. which is both good and bad. bad, because, as i said, i miss the mind-synch with andrez. good, because now maybe i can focus on my own writing for a bit.
you all rock.
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PGoutis01, it's been an absolute pleasure - and I'm sure will continue to be over the next few weeks, tho' I'll be out of range for 2 weeks while I'm in Melbourne from early August, since my family down there don't have internet access.
Probably a blessing in disguise! 
I'm positive I'll be hanging round here for some time to come; it's been a great discovery for me to meet you all, and find a place I can really get my teeth into with like-minded souls aplenty.
Kristopher, what can I say?
I too miss the email flood(s) we excelled in over the past three years or so. I swear some of those would qualify for the Guinness Book of Records for their depth and breadth and length.
And there is this weird hole, right? I'm trying to fill it with all the promotion stuff for the novel, but that's a pretty one-sided affair rather than the communal enterprise that was the editing process. I miss logging in and finding the latest epic to go through and ponder. Things seem far too simple and a bit bland now! But you're right - it frees you up to get back into your own writing (finally!) and gives me a breath of air to ponder other directions as well.
Bogie may say "We'll always have Paris", but you and me can instead warble that we'll always have TSMG. Heh-heh.
And, as K says, you all rock.
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
OK, as hinted at early on in the piece, here's the guff/symbolism about some of the names and addresses that appear in Tobacco-Stained Mountain Goat.
I'm not going to run through all of 'em, just some choice cuts I wanted to share. Self-indulgent? I know, I know. More like unnecessary red herrings that I dig, but if you've read the book you may be curious.
For starters, as I mentioned earlier, the two predatory cops who make a cameo appearance outside Floyd's apartment on pg. 57 - Cortez and Daniels - are named in honour of the two stars of the lesser-known 1931 version of The Maltese Falcon.

The drugs Xenathon and Demaratus are also the names of characters from The 300 Spartans (1962).
Here're some more:
APARTMENT NUMBERS & ADDRESSES
The “half-obliterated sign on the door beside me that reads 15 Stiftgasse” (pg. 4):
Harry Lime’s apartment building number in The Third Man.
Floyd’s apartment # 1001:
The room number of Brigid O’Shaugnessy (née-Wonderly) in The Maltese Falcon.
Mitt-Mate 1187 Hand PC (pg. 16):
Leon’s address in Blade Runner (1187 Hunterwasser).
Wolram Deaps’ address - 12C in the Alexandria (pg. 187):
The suite number of Kasper Gutman, aka the Fat Man, in The Maltese Falcon.
Fergus MacDonell’s phone number (pg. 207), 052794–072388:
Dashiell Hammett’s birthday (May 27, 1894) and Raymond Chandler’s year of birth (July 23, 1888).
“The storefront has the number 7244 printed on a faded tin sign.” (pg. 87):
Geiger’s place in The Big Sleep (7244 Laverne Terrace, off Laurel Canyon Boulevard) - which also brings me to Laurel's name in the novel.
THE STAR TREK REFERENCES in CHAPTER 'PLUS ONE'
Holberg’s restaurant (pg 128):
Named after remote planet Holberg 917-G in the "Requiem for Methuselah" episode of classic Star Trek in the ‘60s.
O’Herlihy, the maître d’ at Holberg’s, is an obscure homage to one of the many red-shirted extras in the classic ‘60s Star Trek that appeared in one episode only, and usually bought it – in this case Ensign O’Herlihy in the episode ‘Arena’.
The waiter, Kevin Riley, is a reference to Kevin Thomas Riley, the navigator of the Enterprise in the first season of the show in the ‘60s.
The song Goodnight, Sweetheart, Goodnight (pg. 135) was featured in the time-travel Trek episode ‘City on the Edge of Forever’.
NAMES
Coronas del Ritz (pg. 191):
The brand of cigars offered by the Fat Man to Spade in The Maltese Falcon.
The Webley-Fosbery pistol used on Deaps (pg. 206):
The same handgun linked to the killing of Sam Spade's partner Miles Archer in The Maltese Falcon.

The name of Ziggy’s bar - Kemidov’s, revealed on pg. 20:
Also the name of the Russian General in The Maltese Falcon who in fact owned the bird in Istanbul before the Fat Man and Joel Cairo stole it.
Floyd’s friend Ant Hope, the cricketer, takes his name from Anthony Hope, the British novelist and playwright who penned The Prisoner of Zenda – and those who know me personally will understand my great affection for the 1937 film version of same, which stars Ronald Colman and Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

Floyd’s Seeker Branch area supervisor Marjorie Saunders, aka Marjery Saunders (introduced on pg. 144), was in reality the editor on a swag of classic movies including the film noir I Became a Criminal (1947).
The newly appointed head honcho of MCD, Tom Richards (introduced on pg. 156) is a little nod to Thomas Richards, the editor on the 1941 Hollywood production of The Maltese Falcon. He also did Michael Curtiz’s British Agent (1934).
Richards’ secretary Harriett Marker (pg. 156) refers to Harry Marker, the editor of the George Sanders-starring crime/mystery The Falcon Takes Over (1942) – based on Raymond Chandler’s Farewell, My Lovely.

The official at Floyd’s first Test at the Department of Education is Ojike Kyoufu (pg. 9) – in Japanese “ojike” roughly translates as fear or dread, while “kyoufu” means to be afraid. Somewhat appropriate, given the Test.
The news reporter Montgomery Berman (pg. 150) is modeled on the Jason King character refined by Peter Wyngarde in the titular British TV series as well as Department S, 1969-71. Both those series were produced by Monty Berman, hence ‘Montgomery Berman’... boom-boom... Department S itself gets a shoo-in on pg. 158, and ITC Entertainment – which made the Jason King series – gets remodeled as the network that both Montgomery and Floyd’s sister Dorothy work for.

Berman’s camera kid Stew Sullivan (pg. 150) takes his name from one of the other star characters of Department S, Stewart Sullivan, played by actor Joel Fabiani, while Berman’s PA Annabelle (pg. 150) harks back to Annabelle Hurst – another star character from the series.
The cricketer Ant refers to, Ray Massey (pg. 105), is a salute to the actor Raymond Massey – the star of sci-fi classic Things to Come (1936), the 1937 version of The Prisoner of Zenda and Frank Capra’s Arsenic and Old Lace (1944); he even popped up in Rod Serling’s Night Gallery and is one of my mum’s favourite actors.
Another cricketer, Miles Mander (pg. 158)? The British character actor who appeared in Murder, My Sweet (1944), the Edward Dmytyck adaptation of Raymond Chandler’s Farewell, My Lovely, and in The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945).
Colman’s name is a hybrid – of both Ronald Colman, the star of the '37 The Prisoner of Zenda, and a good friend of mine back in Australia.
The recurring reference to Siamese vodka is a direct reference to Sean Connery’s obvious distaste for the stuff in the 007 movie You Only Live Twice (1967).

Wilton Parmenter (pg. 69) and Mrs. Agarn (pg. 74) are my little homage to one of my favourite TV comedies from the ‘60s, F Troop – in that series Wilton Parmenter is the hapless commander of the fort, while Corporal Agarn is the rambunctious lackey to Sergeant O’Rourke. The homage was triggered by the yagura tower in the Bon Odori sequence (pg. 67 on), which reminded me of the ever-tumbling watch-tower in F-Troop - but Kris wisely urged me to edit out that obscure reference.
Clodualdo (the drug, pg. 69) was named after Clodualdo del Mundo Sr., a 1950s/’60s Filipino movie writer, critic and komiks novelist.
Floyd’s sidekick Harry Jones is a direct nod to the ill-fated character of the same name played by Elisha Cook Jr. in Howard Hawks’ The Big Sleep (1946).

EDGAR ALLAN POE RIFFS
The trio of police officers introduced across pgs. 122-23:
Tamerlane is the name of an epic poem by Edgar Allan Poe, Sergeant Dupin is a ref. to Le Chevalier C. Auguste Dupin (the Poe detective in The Murders in the Rue Morgue), and Canning comes from the ‘ancient book’, The Mad Trist by Sir Launcelot Canning, that the narrator reads from in Poe’s The Fall of the House of Usher.
On pg. 125 the shop's name, Nevermore, is a reference to The Raven, while Pluto (also pg. 125) is the name of the feline in The Black Cat.

Rowena/Ligeia (pg. 126) are both sourced from Ligeia.
MORE NAMES
The Controllers that Fergus ‘Mac’ MacDonell calls to arms on pg 176 also have meaning – Boemler, aka George Boemler, the editor who worked on the 1952 version of The Prisoner of Zenda and The Three Musketeers (1948), as well as noir essential The Ashphalt Jungle (1950); Marschek, aka Archie Marschek, the editor on The Illustrated Man (1969), My Geisha (1962), and noir romp This Gun for Hire (1942); and Clark, aka Al Clark – the editor of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) and The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T. (1953).

Finally, the 'World Is Yours' balloon that Floyd buys and gives to Colman on pg. 97 is a backhand to Brian De Palma's Scarface (1983).
I’ll leave the other names in the book up to your imagination.
One thing that crops up, as you’ll notice, are the references to film editors – for me the unsung heroes of some absolute classics in cinema.
Having done a lot of editing myself, I have a soft-spot for these people and their role in creating the finished product, thus the obscure nods.

Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Wow, so we're winding up tomorrow, and in 4 days' time I'll be off to Melbourne for a couple of weeks to do the book launch (appropriately enough) in the location where TSMG takes place.
Thanks yet again for everyone's input and fantastic feedback/ideas here, and as another way in which to say cheers, I put together a little free download pack of music for you guys.
Most of this relates in some way to movies (via samples, etc), and much of it is my Little Nobody stuff, but I've also enclosed a couple of George Sanders numbers off the wunderbar George Sanders Touch LP that rates a significant mention in the novel.
I was making and/or listening to this while writing and editing, and I think there are some tangible correlations to find. Maybe.

Also a lot of this music was released by a record label you may know - even if you don't. I started IF? Records in 1995, and we plastered Melbourne with around 5,000 IF? logo oval stickers across 1995-97. Some of them are still there, which is why they pop up twice in the novel.

Anyway, here's a link to the music download - it will be online for the next 2 weeks or so - and I hope you enjoy the tunes:
The Cult TSMG Souvenir Muzak July 2011
Ta, mates!
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Wow you just keep getting more awesome with each post. Good luck with the book launch. Wish I could go see the streets Floyd strolled down and catch the book launch. Thanks again!
Thanks for the extra insight into the book.
Good luck for the book launch Andrez. I wish I could make it to Melbourne for it. 
I want to be in Melbourne right now. Australia has been a goal destination of mine since I was a tyke and first learned about the Outback.
Kristopher Young / Click
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Ha Ha Ha - cheers, audreythirteen! Sweetest thing to write, but (really) I'm just passing on juicy morsels I love and want to share. Probably completely self-indulgent of me, so go figure!
And thanks to you too, rosiemoonjumper.
Kris & Audrey, you should both definitely get down there at some stage. Melbourne rocks.
...but not quite like Tokyo. Literally. We got hit by a 6.4 tremblor last night - focused in the north-east, but strong enough here in Tokyo to rouse me from my fitful slumber and shake the doors pretty violently. The world moves (again). It needs some rest.
That's another reason I can't wait to get back to Melbourne - stable land! 
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Well, methinks I hear the fat lady singing. Ta, mates.
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Not yet!
Super late BUT I started writing this post while it was still July... I want that to be marked in the record.
It's been said but this was a fun read. I like your style, Andrez, it's relatively laid back and that made all the references perfectly okay because there wasn't really a drop of pretentiousness in this entire book. GOSH mind's blank right now and I don't have much else to add but this thread is awesome. I love knowing all these bits of background knowledge now. I'm not at all a movie buff but I've certainly added a few movies to my list.
This:

Is cool.
Best of luck at your launch. And I said this when you first showed up but I dig your music as well. Hope you take pictures and let us know it goes later this week!
Andrez and Kris - this thread will never be "dead." People can always come back and check it out and post stuff in it.
Yeah, I don't want this book club to end 
Definitely let us know how the book launch went.
Wow, thanks for the nice words all round - esp. your comments, audrey and labelleza! I'm absolutely chuffed about what you've both written above. Thank YOU.
Yep, I'll be popping back in here with the occasional update (if that's cool) - and I'll def. fill you all in on the Melbourne launch jaunt next week, once I get back to Tokyo.
Craziness! 
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Hi mates!
I just got back to Tokyo after 2 weeks in Melbourne (hence the quietness here) and did the book launch thing down there, so here's a quick write-up I finished off this morning:
MELBOURNE BOOK LAUNCH
I'll let you know when I have more happy-snaps up and running.
Quite simply, though? It was a blast! 
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Nice! I've been wondering how that was going.
Nice little blog post Andrez. Sounds like it was a blast. I would have loved to have been there. And what a great coincidence that it rained. Hope you wore your trench and drank some siamese vodka to keep warm.
Congrats on the success of your book launch.
Sounds like a kick ass event, mate. I might be going to Tokyo sometime in the foreseeable future. Might have to get you to sign a book.
You look like the type of guy / gal, who would like:
Ha Ha Ha - how the heck could I forget the Siamese vodka...?!
Once again cheers, mates.
I stuck the pics up from the book launch, plus some other Melbourne bits and pieces (some of which you may remember from the novel) up on my Facebook today. It's an open-access album so you should be able to take a peek even if we haven't "connected" prop'ly:
TSMG/Melbourne happy-snaps
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Hey all,
I just an interview with one of the locals here, Jay Slayton-Joslin - and it all started on the topic of milk.

You can read here:
BLAH, BLAH
Nice to get great questions like this - as most of the ones last month were here. Cheers again!
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Just a quick update - I'm currently buried up to my unprotected neck in the next novel, which I started at the beginning of September and am now about 100 pages into (give or take a dozen after proper editing/burning bits that don't work).
Anyway, it's vaguely related to TSMG (about five percent?) and one of the characters from therein acts as the narrator - if you're curious at all, I've set up an update page where I'm leaving nonsensical asides:
One Hundred Years of Vicissitude.

Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/
Awesome. Now get back to writing, the sooner you finish the sooner I get to read it
nice to see you stop by.
One Hundred Years of Vicissitude... I see what you did there and I like it.
Cheers, mate! Still an 'acting' title, but I really do like it. It works with the characters, too, since it focuses on identical twins who live to see 100.
And audreythirteen, as always, ta!! Part of me is trying to spend ALL my free time on this, so I've got to back off sometimes to breathe (and give my family some attention) but I'm happy to be back in the saddle...
Andrez Bergen
A couple o' hack novels out, and upcoming noir/pulp/comicbook thing (Who is Killing the Great Capes of Heropa?)
http://andrezbergen.wordpress.com/


Andrez and Kris - thanks for being so involved!
The Book Club discussion threads are always accessible - they never go away. And I leave them "stickied" at the top of the page for a full month after the discussion is over. That way - hopefully - I'm encouraging people to track down passed discussions.
I'm hoping you guys choose to stick around.