The Virgin Suicides

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knoxville
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"well knox, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem..." - The Gucci Ghost in responce to the lacking of interesting board material.

im not even done the book and have already fallen in love with it. i dont know its just so perfect. i find Eugenides just describes the feeling of love, love lost, and love unattainable perfectly in the book. its one of the most visual books i've ever read and is already one of my favorites

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Reading is overrated. Rent the flick....

And yeah, I read the book and yeah it's all poetic and flowery in a dark beautiful way and sweet dreams are made of these and stuff...

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Took place in Michigan. Another bonus to it (book and movie).

Weird fuckers live in Michigan man. That's for damn sure!

Oh. Wait.... Wink

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I read the book about two years ago. I liked it, more than the film- though I still like the film. Eugenides makes it seem like he's a bit of a voyeur himself,although it is not autobiographical. Although, what do you expect? They're teenage boys (condescending cap is on).

I thought it funny how half the sisters in the movie really weren't attractive. The youngest, Cecila was, and so were Mary and Lux, but the other two really weren't.

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Bill Murray always really pissed me off in Groundhog Day. He was a dude in GhostBusters though.

Which Coppola is directing it? It was Francis Ford Coppola's daughter who directed The Virging Suicides wasn't it? Not the guy that did the Godfather? Shocked

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they werent that ugly. Eugenides describes that how up close they ddint look anythin like Lux, who was which they were all in lvoe with. Lux represented all the sisters, and upon closer viewing they realised that all the girls looked different and were their own beauty

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It didn't explain it in the film did it?

It really annoyed me how this girl was going on about how crap the movie was, because you didn't know the girl's motives-as to why they killed themselves. You get suggestions that it was because of their parents, but the whole point of the story is that it's a bloody mystery.

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in the film they didnt explain it. but in the film they werent ugly either. just a lot different from Lux.i personally think the girls committed suicide because of their mother. and how she locked them up and all that

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Haha. I reckon Lux killed herself because her mother burnt all her rock records.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SnowWhite [/i]
[B]It didn't explain it in the film did it?

It really annoyed me how this girl was going on about how crap the movie was, because you didn't know the girl's motives-as to why they killed themselves. You get suggestions that it was because of their parents, but the whole point of the story is that it's a bloody mystery. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes. The mystery bit. It's not a who-dun-it story. It's not about a moral at the end. It's not about the who's or the why's or the when's. It's just a coming-of-age story filled with moments of effervescent beauty. Stories don't always need a beginning and an end and they don't need to be told as if it all adds up to something when you're done. It meanders. It gives off ambience. It sheds light on basic life truths. It shares experiences... then moves on. Some people I know get all logically-minded when they discuss this book, they're like "why?" and "what for?" and that has little todo with anything. It doesn't matter why. It doesn't matter what for. It's not that kind of story...

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I didn't mean a mystery as in 'who killed Colonel Mustard in the drawing room with the candlestick?' kind of way, more in an enigmatic way.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SnowWhite [/i]
[B]I didn't mean a mystery as in 'who killed Colonel Mustard in the drawing room with the candlestick?' kind of way, more in an enigmatic way. [/B][/QUOTE]

A-ha! I understand now... if only I knew what enigmatic meant...

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Best part of that movie was the soundtrack by Air.
Reminds me of smoking pot on a grassy hill in the sunshine. Happy happy happy.

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very good point, but we're talking about the book. either way have you heard both versions of the song "Playground Lover" (or is it Highschool Lover) theres a instrumental and lyrical one. both awesome

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"I thought it funny how half the sisters in the movie really weren't attractive. The youngest, Cecila was, and so were Mary and Lux, but the other two really weren't."

My thoughts exactly.

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like i said before, they werent dog ugly. but they were in love with Lux and thats why they werent as good lookin

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No, they were ugly. You just have low standards.

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.....shut it

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Why? You've demonstrated in the past that your standards are not exactly demanding. "i like chunky chicks" and such...

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lol its so true!!!!!!!

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i wouldnt say low standards, just more accepting

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Whatever works for you. I'm not a big fan of euphemisms, though.

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and im not a fan of big words i dont know, euphisimsmsims. i recognize that word

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[url=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=euphemism]Here[/url] you go. Dictionary.com - because ignorance is mean.

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i wasnt using a eupheisism. like i said i wont go after ugly girls and shit who are just fucking dog. but if a girl has some meat on her or something, than hey what can you do. no ones perfect

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That's what I said. Lower standards. Then you say "more accepting". That's what we call a euphemism.

You're not fat, you're just 'horizontally-challenged'.
You're not stupid, you're just 'learning-impaired'.
You don't have lower standards, you're just 'more accepting'.

Those are euphemisms. Class dismissed.

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but i dotn have low standards, well i guess i do but i still have standards. just not to the height of the mtv generation persay

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See. There we go. Accept yourself for who you are - don't be afraid to be yourself. Breathe in. Breathe out. Tell yourself "Hey self! I'm a swell guy! I like being me!"

That's it. Now you're on the path to a fulfilling life. That'll be four hundred and sixty-eight dollars, please.

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my name is gl[b]-knox[/b]!!! and im not afraid to say that i like owmen with a bit o meat

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Jesus saves.

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k so im guessing if you wanna talk about a book it hasta be in the book club thread?

anyways enough talk of how stupid some of our mods are (kidding...or am i?)

anyways i just finished this book and it was so amazingly good. best part was that it leaves it up to you to decide why the sisters commited suicide. i personally thought that Mary, Therese, Lux and Bonnie all followed their sister Cecelia because they were sisters, there was a bond that was broken and could only be reconnected in the afterlife. all their parents crap and bullshit, they could put up with because they had each other, and they didnt wanna continue living without each other. but why did Cecelia commit uicide, im not too sure, i think it was the only way she knew how to rebel at her parents, to get awayf orm the strict lifestyle.

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so i've been reading this book and i can't stop reading it. the way he describes anything is completely mesmerizing and beautiful to me. it's a very sexy book and it's loads better than the movie (even though the movie was awesome). maybe i love like a teenage boy in the 70s, but the way eugenides describes love and sex is dead on. i think the virgin suicides tops out trainspotting as my favorite book of all time. that is all.

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Yeah, after picking up Middlesex, I don't see how I can avoid Virgin Suicides any more. It's going on my reading list.

P.S. *sigh* good ol' disx and knox.

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i miss disx. that kid cracked me up.