The God Delusion

I keep meaning to buy that book, Richard Dawkins was on Irish TV a few weeks ago and made a hell of a lot of sense (pardon the pun). I reckon that before I go ahead and read The God Delusion I should read The Bible but its on my recomended reading list for this year.

BTW there is a thread titled Heaven or Hell that mentions the God Delusion, have a read of it sometime.

I'm reading it right now.........

Dawkins does a good job at laying out the information so that anyone could easily read and concisely follow his arguements and overall evidence.

I need to pick up the pace though, it has to go back to the library soon.

I haven't read the God Delusion yet, I definitly intend to. I watched a couple of his readings and lectures from his book tour, awesome. Especially the one where Liberty U students and faculty came to.

I also watched Jesus Camp, that is some scary shit. I see that kid with a mullet creating some death cult and blowing up some buildings, and I really see that little girl becoming a coke fiend/prostitute. I feel really sorry for them.

It so made my week when that Ted Haggard gay sex/drugs scandal happened, fucking hypocrites.

you're telling everyone to read a book you haven't even read yourself yet???

I've read some of it and heard Richard Dawkins do some readings, plus I watched the Root of All Evil, which I also highly recommend. This world needs more logic and less myths and superstitions.

And where, pray tell, is the logic in telling people to read a book you haven't read yourself?

[QUOTE=corellion;920424]And where, pray tell, is the logic in telling people to read a book you haven't read yourself?[/QUOTE]

it would be like someone telling you to read...oh, I don't know.... say...The Bible, having never read the thing themselves

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;920444]it would be like someone telling you to read...oh, I don't know.... say...The Bible, having never read the thing themselves[/QUOTE]

Wow....how delightfully appropriate!!

Fine almost everyone should read this too
[url]http://images.ucomics.com/images/pdfs/sadams/godsdebris.pdf[/url]

I'm almost done with it, it asks a ton of questions about...well....almost everything. It'll really make you think, not in that cliched make you think way

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXpysYEhgA]related link[/URL]

[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;921897][URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXpysYEhgA]related link[/URL][/QUOTE]

Richard Dawkins came accross much better on an Irish programme lately. Who is that guy that interviewed him, is he another Letterman clone or is he out on his own? How popular is that programme?

it's a branch off from the Daily Show with Jon Stewart

Its been a while but has anyone actually read this yet? Its still on my ever growing must read pile.

yes i have read the god delusion and it is a very interesting and well written book. you do not need to read the bible first or do any kind of research at all because Dawkins presents both sides of the argument in his book and he tries to do it in an unbias way. I really do think this book is probably the best book that i have read in a long time.

if every christian or any religous person read this i think it would change a lot of people. but most of these people would probably not be open to what they are reading and not bother to actually think about what he is saying. they would simply discard his ideas as nonsense.

I don't need to read anything to know that religion is full of it. I grew up in North Carolina, watching every jesus-junkie around make fools of themselves in the name of Gee-Hova. All the evidence I'll ever need.

[QUOTE=LoneKnypher;942303]yes i have read the god delusion and it is a very interesting and well written book. you do not need to read the bible first or do any kind of research at all because Dawkins presents both sides of the argument in his book and he tries to do it in an unbias way. I really do think this book is probably the best book that i have read in a long time.

if every christian or any religous person read this i think it would change a lot of people. but most of these people would probably not be open to what they are reading and not bother to actually think about what he is saying. they would simply discard his ideas as nonsense.[/QUOTE]

The whole reading the bible thing I mentioned earlier is just out of curiosity more than anything else. I saw Richard Dawkins on Irish TV and he immediately made an impact on me. He must be doing something right because now ther is a book out called The Dawkins Delusion just trying to discredit him.

[QUOTE=bassplr19;920329]I also watched Jesus Camp, that is some scary shit. I see that kid with a mullet creating some death cult and blowing up some buildings, and I really see that little girl becoming a coke fiend/prostitute. I feel really sorry for them.[/QUOTE]
I watched that movie over the weekend. That was seriously fucked up. The thing that was sad for me was the blond boy with the bowl cut. He was like - sometimes I'm not sure what to believe in. And he was so upset. I'm thinking - isn't that how about 90% of the population thinks? Nobody is positive about anything.

And that little girl is going to end up murdering somebody because Jesus told her to.

Right now I'm almost done with Breaking the Spell by Dennett. It hasn't been a fun read - that's why it's been taking me so long. The way he writes makes my mind wander. He just can't seem to keep my attention. And he goes on long rambles that are barely connected to the arguments that he's trying to make and he totally loses the point. Maybe it's just me.

I really do want to read The God Delusion soon though. I have it and it's sitting on my shelf waiting for me.

I've read the God Delusion now, the second half of the book (Chap 5 on) I couldn't put down.

I found the morality questions to be really interesting (pg 222), who would you let die if forced to make a decision?

THE ARGUMENT FROM SCRIPTURE was another section I found fascinating, did Jesus exist, did he use (and abuse) magical powers, according to Thomas he did.
How come all the gospels do not agree?

Excerpt
"Moreover, Luke screws up his dating by tactlessly mentioning
events that historians are capable of independently checking. There
was indeed a census under Governor Quirinius - a local census, not
one decreed by Caesar Augustus for the Empire as a whole - but it
happened too late: in AD 6, long after Herod's death. Lane Fox
concludes that 'Luke's story is historically impossible and internally
incoherent', but he sympathizes with Luke's plight and his desire to
fulfil the prophecy of Micah.
In the December 2004 issue of Free Inquiry, Tom Flynn, the
Editor of that excellent magazine, assembled a collection of articles
documenting the contradictions and gaping holes in the well-loved
Christmas story. Flynn himself lists the many contradictions
between Matthew and Luke, the only two evangelists who treat the
birth of Jesus at all.50 Robert Gillooly shows how all the essential
features of the Jesus legend, including the star in the east, the virgin
birth, the veneration of the baby by kings, the miracles, the
execution, the resurrection and the ascension are borrowed - every
last one of them - from other religions already in existence in the
Mediterranean and Near East region. Flynn suggests that
Matthew's desire to fulfil messianic prophecies (descent from
David, birth in Bethlehem) for the benefit of Jewish readers came
into headlong collision with Luke's desire to adapt Christianity for
the Gentiles, and hence to press the familiar hot buttons of pagan
Hellenistic religions (virgin birth, worship by kings, etc.). The
resulting contradictions are glaring, but consistently overlooked by
the faithful."

I was reading the God Delusion on the bus while sitting next to some guy reading the bible. I was nice and didn't say anything UNTIL he tried to evangelize to the people sitting across from us. Then we had words, where he tried to tell me that Noah's Ark really happened and that he wouldn't stone his kids if they misbehaved
(Deuteronomy 21:18-21, Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17) even though the bible says so and he told me that he thought the bible was the true word of god.

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[url]http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm[/url]