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Last night I made the ULTIMATE list of books that I will read.
Any objections?

Everyone post your reading lists!! i know some of you literary nerds keep spreadsheets of all the books you want to read.

To read list

Writing Books:
1. Chuck Palahniuk’s Cult Writing Workshop Essays
2. Breakthrough Rapid Reading
3. So You Want to Write (2nd Edition)
4. Immediate Fiction
5. Becoming A Writer
6. The Writer's Block: 786 Ideas to Jump-Start Your Imagination by Jason Rekulak
7. The Writer's Notebook: Craft Essays from Tin House
8. The art of Fiction by John Gardner
9. Method and Madness: The Making of a Story by Alice LaPlante

Fiction and Nonfiction
1) The Road by Cormac Mccarthy
2) Blood Meridian by Cormac Mccarthy
3) Dumbing us down : the hidden curriculum of compulsory schooling
4) Illuminatus! Trilogy
5) Out of Touch by brandon Tietz
6) Demon Theory by Stephen graham Jones
7) Predicate by Pablo D’Stair
8) Way Of Shadows by Brent Weeks
9) The Man who fell in love with the moon by Tom spanbauer
10) Blood and Guts In High school by Kathy Acker
11) Beat The Reaper by Josh Bazell
12) Dead Zone By Stephen King
13) The Raw Shark Texts By Steven Hall
14) Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
15) Thirteen Reasons Why by Jay Asher
16) Dermaphoria by Craig Clevenger
17) You Shall know our velocity by eggars
18) Rosemary’s Baby by Ira Levin
19) This Perfect Day by Ira Levin
20) Kiss me, Judas by Will Christopher baer
21) Penny Dreadful by Will Christopher Baer
22) Hell’s Half Acre by Will christopher baer
23) The Stories of Breece D'J Pancake
24) American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
25) Less than Zero by Bret Easton Ellis
26) Jesus’ son by denis johnson
27) 25th hour by David benioff
28) in the cut by Susanna Moore
29) The Gargoyle by Andrew Davidson
30) Sound and the Fury by Faulkner
31) As I Lay Dying by faulkner
32) Sanctuary by Faulkner
33) Beloved by Toni Morrison
34) Dear Mr. President By Gabe Hudson
35) Always Outnumbered, Always outgunned by walter mosley
36) Invisible by Paul Auster
37) Await your Reply by Dan Chaon
38) The Adderall Diaries: A Memoir of Moods, Masochism and Murder by Stephen Elliot
39) Don’t Cry: Stories by Mary Gaitskill
40) Where Men Win Glory by Jon krakauer
41) The Girl Who Played With Fire By Stieg Larsson
42) Out of Sight by Elmore Leonard
43) Road Dogs by Elmore Leonard
44) Kockroach by Tyler Knox
45) The City and the city by China Mieville
46) Lowboy by John Wray
47) Geek Love by Katherine Dunn
48) The world according to garp by John Irving
49) Choke by Chuck Palahniuk
50) Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk
51) Crash by J.G. Ballard
52) Pussy, King of the Pirates by Kathy Acker
53) Empier of the Senseless by Kathy Acker
54) The Atrocity Exhibition by J.G. Ballard
55) The Diceman by Luke Rhinehart
56) Generation X by Douglas Coupland
57) Junkie by William S. Boroughs
58) I am Legend by Richard Matheson
59) The fall by Albert Camus
60) Day of Creation by JG Ballard
61) Franny and Zoey by Jd Salinger
62) Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger
63) Tours of the Black Clock by Steve Erickson
64) Days Between Stations by Steve Erickson
65) Arc d’x by Steve Erickson
66) Click by Kristopher Young
67) Toxicology by Steve Aylett
68) Angel Dust Apocalypse by Jeremy Robert Johnson
69) The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath
70) The Extinction of Rhinos in Mexico by Stephen Blackburn
71) Wise Blood by Flannery O’Connor
72) Bright Lights Big City by Jay Mcinerney
73) Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
74) American Gods by Neil Gaiman
75) Walden by Thoereau
76) Liver: A Fictional organ with a surface anatomy of four lobes by Will Self
77) Cock and bull by Will self
78) Book of Dave By Will self
79) Psychogeography : disentangling the modern conundrum of psyche and place by Will Self
80) Great Apes by Will Self
81) Psycho Too by Will Self
82) Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy by douglas adams
83) Ice at the bottom of the world by Mark Richard
84) Charity by Mark Richard
85) Tell me: 30 Stories by Mary Robison
86) Shoot the kids by Kenzaburo
87) Right hand of sleep by John Wray
88) The book of revelation by Rupert Thompson
89) God Hates us all
90) The postman always rings twice by James Cain
91) Taking the Leap by Pema Chodron
92) Batman Blind Justice
93) Gotham Central
94) Infinite crisis
95) Final Crisis
96) The Joker: the greatest stories ever told (search for Batman in Suffolk County catalog)
97) Pop 1280 by Big Jim Thompson
98) Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
99) Requiem for a dream by hubert selby
100) Last Exit To Brooklyn by Hubert Selby
101) Sick Puppy by carl Hiaasen
102) Villa Incognito by Tom Robbins
103) Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins
104) Fear and Loathing in Las vegas by Hunter S. Thompson
105) Clowngirl by Monica Drake
106) Company: a novel by Max barry
107) Jennifer Government by max barry
108) Junkie by William S. Boroughs
109) Trainspotting by Irvine Welsh
110) Story of the Eye by Georges bataille
111) The Rape Of The Ape by Allan Sherman
112) Boomsday by Christopher Buckley
113) Something happened by Joseph Heller
114) Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
115) Breakfast of champions by Kurt Vonnegut
116) The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
117) Neuromancer by William Gibson
118) Pugilist at rest by thom jones
119) Amusing ourselves to death by neil postman
120) Fahrenheit 451 by ray Bradbury
121) Martian chronicles by ray Bradbury
122) Exquisite Corpse by Poppy Z. Brite
123) The big sleep by Chandler
124) When the emperor was divine by Julie Otsuka
125) Night by Elie Wiesel
126) Drown by Junot Diaz
127) The colony by Jillian Weise
128) The savage detectives
129) Do Androids dream of electric sheep? By Philip K. Dick
130) One man’s bible by Gao Xingjian
131) Uncle Tom’s Cabin by Stowe
132) Slave narratives
133) The collected stories of Amy hempel by Amy Hempel
134) Post office by Charles Bukowski
135) The Beach by Joana Strange
136) The amazing adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon
137) The Stranger by Albert Camus
138) The New York Trilogy
139) Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
140) Syrup by Max barry
141) A clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick
142) The Likeness by Tana French
143) The Devil in the White city by Erik Larson
144) A heartbreaking work of staggering genius by Dave eggers
145) Ballad of the whiskey robber by Julian Rubinstein
146) Blindness by Giovanni Pontiero
147) Vacation by Jeremy C. Shipp
148) Another Bullshit night in suck city by Nick Flynn
149) Zeroville by Steve Erickson
150) Cast of Shadow by Kevin Guifoile
151) Under the banner of heaven by Jon krakauer
152) Running wild by JG Ballard
153) Battle Royale by Koushun Takami
154) The Gone-away world by Nick harkaway
155) The host by Stephenie Meyer
156) The Informers by Bret Easton Ellis
157) The book of lost things by John Connolly
158) Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver
159) Curious Incident Of the dog in the night-time
160) The handmaid’s tale by Malcolm Foster
161) A thousand splendid suns
162) On the road by jack kerouac
163) The Little sleep by Paul Tremblay
164) No Sleep till wonderland by paul tremblay
165) The Forest of Hands and Teeth by Carrie Ryan
166) The dead tossed waves by carrie ryan
167) The revolution: a manifesto by ron paul
168) Satan Burger by Carlton Mellick

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go on..

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That's a good #5 you got there under fiction and nonfiction Wink

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the ammount of time you took thinking and typing that could have been spent reading a book.

add strunk and white's elementsof style to the books about writing list, please.

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i'm reading craig clevenger's "Contortionist Handbook" and Stephen King's "Under the Dome" right now. Also some short stories from the Cult writer's workshop such as Brien Piech's "The Pit"

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brandon.tietz wrote:
That's a good #5 you got there under fiction and nonfiction ;)

You beat out Faulkner, Cain, Thompson, Vonnegut, Bradbury, Bukowski, Chandler, etc...

Good Job!

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radscavenger wrote:

141) A clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick

Anthony Burgess wrote that. Stanley Kubrick directed the movie.
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Nachos, every day! Dying sounds great, I don't know why people get so upset about it.
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brandon.tietz wrote:
That's a good #5 you got there under fiction and nonfiction ;)

You beat out Faulkner, Cain, Thompson, Vonnegut, Bradbury, Bukowski, Chandler, etc...

Good Job!

And Dr. Joseph Suglia!! Smile Big

That cocksucker didn't even make the cut!

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i don't even know who Dr. Joseph Suglia is...

Can you guys recommend any funny books? I put down Max barry. Any other laugh out loud books like Choke?
Speaking of Choke, I haven't read that one yet.

I'm afraid if I read all of Chuck Palahniuk's books, my life will become a gaping, depressing void. Anytime I read a book, I'll immediately compare it to Chuck's works and think, "this book sucks". Because Chuck is the best author out there.

Going to Japan 2 summers ago, I ate sushi at the best restaurants in Tokyo. Including conveyor belt sushi restaurants:

Now American sushi is unbearable, because I immediately compare to the scrumptious, legit sushi from Japan.
When you experience the best, everything else becomes shit. That's how I feel about Chuck's work. If I read all his books, all the other books that I'll read will look terrible.

I've read Lullaby, Survivor, and the first of half of Rant (lost it).
I'm getting a signed copy of Tell-All at the NYC event on May 6th.
Anyone else going to that event?

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So, uh... You like books or something?

Also. According to your profile, you are 24. That's a good age to read Illuminatus! but you'll wish you had read it last year.

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radscavenger wrote:

143) The Devil in the White city by Erik Larson

Hated that book. I never even finished it. It's the most boring book about a serial killer ever.
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Tuffy wrote:
So, uh... You like books or something?

Also. According to your profile, you are 24. That's a good age to read Illuminatus! but you'll wish you had read it last year.

24? Oops! I'm actually 19 going on 20. Tehehehe

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did you intentionally leave out house of leaves?

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i already bought house of leaves. Didn't read it yet though, its sitting in my closet.

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damien_mayfair, everytime I see your avatar pic, I keep thinking its a real photo of you. And then I realize that Billy mays is dead

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Okay, don't read Illuminatus! yet then.

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radscavenger wrote:
damien_mayfair, everytime I see your avatar pic, I keep thinking its a real photo. And then I realize that Billy mays is dead

WAT DO U MEAN HE"S DEAD!?

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oh and personally, i think GeekLove should rank higher.

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i don't think it's a ranking system. isn't it just a list of what he wants to read?

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matthew.odonnell wrote:
i don't think it's a ranking system. isn't it just a list of what he wants to read?

No, it's a ranking a system.

I'm getting an aluminum medal for my 5th place finish.

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I thought Geek Love ended weakly.

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hahahaha Tietz i wanna read your book so bad but I'm too poor to buy it

And whos that guy in your avatar pic?

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Tuffy wrote:
I thought Geek Love ended weakly.

I feel the same way about American Gods, I don't know why Geek Love left such an impression on me though.

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I'm currently reading random books from the 1001 list, I'm 120 titles into it, and also whatever else seems interesting enough on the library's shelves. I should read more classics though.

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Tuffy wrote:
So, uh... You like books or something?

Also. According to your profile, you are 24. That's a good age to read Illuminatus! but you'll wish you had read it last year.


I read Illuminatus! aged 21. What do you make of that?
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radscavenger wrote:
Last night I made the ULTIMATE list of books that I will read.
Any objections?

Everyone post your reading lists!! i know some of you literary nerds keep spreadsheets of all the books you want to read.

To read list

Writing Books:
1. Chuck Palahniuk’s Cult Writing Workshop Essays
2. Breakthrough Rapid Reading
3. So You Want to Write (2nd Edition)
4. Immediate Fiction
5. Becoming A Writer
6. The Writer's Block: 786 Ideas to Jump-Start Your Imagination by Jason Rekulak
7. The Writer's Notebook: Craft Essays from Tin House
8. The art of Fiction by John Gardner
9. Method and Madness: The Making of a Story by Alice LaPlante

Fiction and Nonfiction
1) The Road by Cormac Mccarthy
2) Blood Meridian by Cormac Mccarthy
3) Dumbing us down : the hidden curriculum of compulsory schooling
4) Illuminatus! Trilogy
5) Out of Touch by brandon Tietz
6) Demon Theory by Stephen graham Jones
7) Predicate by Pablo D’Stair
8) Way Of Shadows by Brent Weeks
9) The Man who fell in love with the moon by Tom spanbauer
10) Blood and Guts In High school by Kathy Acker
11) Beat The Reaper by Josh Bazell
12) Dead Zone By Stephen King
13) The Raw Shark Texts By Steven Hall
14) Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
15) Thirteen Reasons Why by Jay Asher
16) Dermaphoria by Craig Clevenger
17) You Shall know our velocity by eggars
18) Rosemary’s Baby by Ira Levin
19) This Perfect Day by Ira Levin
20) Kiss me, Judas by Will Christopher baer
21) Penny Dreadful by Will Christopher Baer
22) Hell’s Half Acre by Will christopher baer
23) The Stories of Breece D'J Pancake
24) American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
25) Less than Zero by Bret Easton Ellis
26) Jesus’ son by denis johnson
27) 25th hour by David benioff
28) in the cut by Susanna Moore
29) The Gargoyle by Andrew Davidson
30) Sound and the Fury by Faulkner
31) As I Lay Dying by faulkner
32) Sanctuary by Faulkner
33) Beloved by Toni Morrison
34) Dear Mr. President By Gabe Hudson
35) Always Outnumbered, Always outgunned by walter mosley
36) Invisible by Paul Auster
37) Await your Reply by Dan Chaon
38) The Adderall Diaries: A Memoir of Moods, Masochism and Murder by Stephen Elliot
39) Don’t Cry: Stories by Mary Gaitskill
40) Where Men Win Glory by Jon krakauer
41) The Girl Who Played With Fire By Stieg Larsson
42) Out of Sight by Elmore Leonard
43) Road Dogs by Elmore Leonard
44) Kockroach by Tyler Knox
45) The City and the city by China Mieville
46) Lowboy by John Wray
47) Geek Love by Katherine Dunn
48) The world according to garp by John Irving
49) Choke by Chuck Palahniuk
50) Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk
51) Crash by J.G. Ballard
52) Pussy, King of the Pirates by Kathy Acker
53) Empier of the Senseless by Kathy Acker
54) The Atrocity Exhibition by J.G. Ballard
55) The Diceman by Luke Rhinehart
56) Generation X by Douglas Coupland
57) Junkie by William S. Boroughs
58) I am Legend by Richard Matheson
59) The fall by Albert Camus
60) Day of Creation by JG Ballard
61) Franny and Zoey by Jd Salinger
62) Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger
63) Tours of the Black Clock by Steve Erickson
64) Days Between Stations by Steve Erickson
65) Arc d’x by Steve Erickson
66) Click by Kristopher Young
67) Toxicology by Steve Aylett
68) Angel Dust Apocalypse by Jeremy Robert Johnson
69) The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath
70) The Extinction of Rhinos in Mexico by Stephen Blackburn
71) Wise Blood by Flannery O’Connor
72) Bright Lights Big City by Jay Mcinerney
73) Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
74) American Gods by Neil Gaiman
75) Walden by Thoereau
76) Liver: A Fictional organ with a surface anatomy of four lobes by Will Self
77) Cock and bull by Will self
78) Book of Dave By Will self
79) Psychogeography : disentangling the modern conundrum of psyche and place by Will Self
80) Great Apes by Will Self
81) Psycho Too by Will Self
82) Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy by douglas adams
83) Ice at the bottom of the world by Mark Richard
84) Charity by Mark Richard
85) Tell me: 30 Stories by Mary Robison
86) Shoot the kids by Kenzaburo
87) Right hand of sleep by John Wray
88) The book of revelation by Rupert Thompson
89) God Hates us all
90) The postman always rings twice by James Cain
91) Taking the Leap by Pema Chodron
92) Batman Blind Justice
93) Gotham Central
94) Infinite crisis
95) Final Crisis
96) The Joker: the greatest stories ever told (search for Batman in Suffolk County catalog)
97) Pop 1280 by Big Jim Thompson
98) Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
99) Requiem for a dream by hubert selby
100) Last Exit To Brooklyn by Hubert Selby
101) Sick Puppy by carl Hiaasen
102) Villa Incognito by Tom Robbins
103) Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins
104) Fear and Loathing in Las vegas by Hunter S. Thompson
105) Clowngirl by Monica Drake
106) Company: a novel by Max barry
107) Jennifer Government by max barry
108) Junkie by William S. Boroughs
109) Trainspotting by Irvine Welsh
110) Story of the Eye by Georges bataille
111) The Rape Of The Ape by Allan Sherman
112) Boomsday by Christopher Buckley
113) Something happened by Joseph Heller
114) Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
115) Breakfast of champions by Kurt Vonnegut
116) The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
117) Neuromancer by William Gibson
118) Pugilist at rest by thom jones
119) Amusing ourselves to death by neil postman
120) Fahrenheit 451 by ray Bradbury
121) Martian chronicles by ray Bradbury
122) Exquisite Corpse by Poppy Z. Brite
123) The big sleep by Chandler
124) When the emperor was divine by Julie Otsuka
125) Night by Elie Wiesel
126) Drown by Junot Diaz
127) The colony by Jillian Weise
128) The savage detectives
129) Do Androids dream of electric sheep? By Philip K. Dick
130) One man’s bible by Gao Xingjian
131) Uncle Tom’s Cabin by Stowe
132) Slave narratives
133) The collected stories of Amy hempel by Amy Hempel
134) Post office by Charles Bukowski
135) The Beach by Joana Strange
136) The amazing adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon
137) The Stranger by Albert Camus
138) The New York Trilogy
139) Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
140) Syrup by Max barry
141) A clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick
142) The Likeness by Tana French
143) The Devil in the White city by Erik Larson
144) A heartbreaking work of staggering genius by Dave eggers
145) Ballad of the whiskey robber by Julian Rubinstein
146) Blindness by Giovanni Pontiero
147) Vacation by Jeremy C. Shipp
148) Another Bullshit night in suck city by Nick Flynn
149) Zeroville by Steve Erickson
150) Cast of Shadow by Kevin Guifoile
151) Under the banner of heaven by Jon krakauer
152) Running wild by JG Ballard
153) Battle Royale by Koushun Takami
154) The Gone-away world by Nick harkaway
155) The host by Stephenie Meyer
156) The Informers by Bret Easton Ellis
157) The book of lost things by John Connolly
158) Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver
159) Curious Incident Of the dog in the night-time
160) The handmaid’s tale by Malcolm Foster
161) A thousand splendid suns
162) On the road by jack kerouac
163) The Little sleep by Paul Tremblay
164) No Sleep till wonderland by paul tremblay
165) The Forest of Hands and Teeth by Carrie Ryan
166) The dead tossed waves by carrie ryan
167) The revolution: a manifesto by ron paul
168) Satan Burger by Carlton Mellick

Who the fuck reads that many books?

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And Dr. Joseph Suglia!! Smile Big

That cocksucker didn't even make the cut!


LMAO!! You almost made me spit my Starbucks out.
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Who the fuck reads that many books?

There's this guy, with a cat...
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Story by Robert Mckee should be in every writers collection. Mr Clevenger recommended it to me in the last Shotgun Intensive and it has been invaluable.

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I saw Less Than Zero on there.
GO
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It is an amazing book and it's even more amazing when u consider the fact that it was Brett Easton Ellis's first book.

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Story by Robert Mckee should be in every writers collection. Mr Clevenger recommended it to me in the last Shotgun Intensive and it has been invaluable.

I looked up "story by robert mckee" and came up with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Story-Substance-Structure-Principles-Screenwriting...

I'm always on the lookout for good writing books, but this is for SCREENWRITING. craig clevenger doesn't write scripts, he writes novels. And i certainly do not want to write scripts.

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I also recommend that you put The Thin Man by Dashiell Hammett

I'm sure franc tireur will come in here and give a better recommendation. Smile

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I'm disappointed that there are no russian novels on there. Lolita doesn't count because he wrote it in english.

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I thought I saw Dostoevsky on there... But then looking back now I don't see any.

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Richard Matheson is a splendid author. He wrote a lot of the Twilight Zone Episodes and his work seems to easily transfer from written word to film. But apparently, nobody understood that in the three times they tried to do I Am Legend.
Ender's Game and American Gods- Great choices (not one of my favorite Gaiman titles, but an interesting read).
I agree with ScubaSteve about Devil in the White City- Don't do it!
I have a lot of books in mind to be reading somewhere in the future, but in order to not overwhelm myself, I choose to grab or buy books at random when I need something to read. My only plans as far as the next few books are concerned are as follows:
1. Something by Jon Krakauer, Sellevision, or The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl.
2. Something by Neil Gaiman.
3. At this point, it should be about time to get my copy of Tell All, and he's coming here, so I need to read fast (not that it should be difficult with Palahniuk).
By the way, when you speak of sushi, is your gripe about sushi in America that it's not made by Japanese people? Or that it just plain tastes that much different because you aren't surrounded by the culture?

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By the way, when you speak of sushi, is your gripe about sushi in America that it's not made by Japanese people? Or that it just plain tastes that much different because you aren't surrounded by the culture?

It has absolutely nothing to do with culture. Its just that sushi requires fresh ingredients, fresh fish for it to taste good. Japan is an island, so the fish can be transported immediately after its cultivated. japanese sushi is fresh from the sea, whereas American sushi is not.

When it comes to sushi, it has nothing to do with race or culture, its about the freshness and the skill of the sushi chef. I'm not trying to be elitist but its the truth, American sushi is bad.

On a lighter note, who is this fightclubkid? Is this Joseph Suglia secretly making posts on the Cult forums? I bet he's a regular around here, creating new usernames everytime, pissing people off.

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(from thread titled: The Cult: Sociological Terms Explained by xec8)

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Fite Klub Kid (noun, offensive): A totally awesome 15-year-old anti-capitalist whose obsession with Tyler Durden borders on the boring.

And now I understand why you feel that way about American sushi. Very true.

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radscavenger wrote:
Martin Barker wrote:
Story by Robert Mckee should be in every writers collection. Mr Clevenger recommended it to me in the last Shotgun Intensive and it has been invaluable.

I looked up "story by robert mckee" and came up with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Story-Substance-Structure-Principles-Screenwriting...

I'm always on the lookout for good writing books, but this is for SCREENWRITING. craig clevenger doesn't write scripts, he writes novels. And i certainly do not want to write scripts.

I know Craig writes novels but thanks for clarifying. You're missing out though if you skip this one. Although it is for screenwriting do you really think that the plot in a film or tv show does not have to be as well paced and thought-out as that of a novel? Craig actually said in the last shotgun that going to one of Robert Mckee's workshops was one of the best things he's done in regards to writing as it taught him alot about pace, beats and plot points. In-fact one of the main things Craig taught us about plotting is actually mentioned in Story itself. So don't write-off this till you've read it.

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1. Knockemstiff - Donald Ray Pollock
2. The Contortionist's​ Handbook - Craig Clevenger

Imke! Knockemstiff is great. A year or two ago, there was this huge book sale here and I saw Knockemstiff for like, twenty five cents. I liked the look of it, so I bought it and when I got home I saw it was endorsed by CP. It felt serendipitous. (sp?)

Anyway, it's got a few fucked up stories in it, but I still liked it.

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Imke wrote:
1. Knockemstiff - Donald Ray Pollock
2. The Contortionist's​ Handbook - Craig Clevenger

Imke! Knockemstiff is great. A year or two ago, there was this huge book sale here and I saw Knockemstiff for like, twenty five cents. I liked the look of it, so I bought it and when I got home I saw it was endorsed by CP. It felt serendipitous. (sp?)

Anyway, it's got a few fucked up stories in it, but I still liked it.

I just had to put in a dig for Knockemstiff. I loved it. One of my favourite short story collections.
I think right now hes working on a novel. I cant wait!

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hey do you guys know of any good zombie books? I love love love watching zombie movies but I have no knowledge of any exciting zombie books.

I listed brent weeks "way of shadows", my friend said its the greatest fantasy book ever. Its probably the only fantasy book in my reading list. Anyone know of any good fantasy novels?

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The Zombie Survival Handbook by Max Brooks [son of Mel Brooks].

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I think Infected by Scott Sigler is a zombie book. I've heard good things about it. I own it - haven't read it yet. It is in my to read pile.

World War Z by Max Brooks.

Cell by Stephen King is sort of a zombie book.

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It is an amazing book and it's even more amazing when u consider the fact that it was Brett Easton Ellis's first book.

And that it was written when he was all of nineteen. Goddamn wunderkind.

Robert McKee is a creative fascist; and Story is a joy-killing manifesto of conformist acquiescence. (So, imagine my delight that night in my theater seat as I watched Charlie Kaufman use Adaptation to savagely upend the tables in McKee's temple.)

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is the book "The Forest of Hands and Teeth" by Carrie Ryan considered a zombie book?

I'm not just on the lookout for zombie books, also looking for action packed books. Intense thrillers. with fight scenes. frightening demons. that sort of stuff. Most of the books on my list are a bit too "artsy".

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I think Infected by Scott Sigler is a zombie book. I've heard good things about it. I own it - haven't read it yet. It is in my to read pile.

World War Z by Max Brooks.

Cell by Stephen King is sort of a zombie book.

I started reading Cell back in high school, but at that point, I was lazy about reading, and I couldn't get into it. It seemed pretty interesting, I just didn't read it past the first or so chapter.

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Fano wrote:
PGoutis01 wrote:
I think Infected by Scott Sigler is a zombie book. I've heard good things about it. I own it - haven't read it yet. It is in my to read pile.

World War Z by Max Brooks.

Cell by Stephen King is sort of a zombie book.

I started reading Cell back in high school, but at that point, I was lazy about reading, and I couldn't get into it. It seemed pretty interesting, I just didn't read it past the first or so chapter.

Cell is Shit, probably my least favourite King book.

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Wow... I kinda liked it... Sad I don't think I've ever seen you express an opinion so strongly Derek. lol

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Wow... I kinda liked it... Sad I don't think I've ever seen you express an opinion so strongly Derek. lol

HA! I dont do anger too good!