"Why School is Evil" by Adam, Depressed Student Teacher

life sucks wear a helmet

Adam, hearing that makes me think of Donnie Darko. The teacher who tried to open her students' minds, and ended up getting fired. Or, for a slightly less recent reference, Dead Poet's Society.

Find a way You've gone this far so don your helmet, slap a sticker that says, "Bane's a ding-bat" on it, and go face the muzak.

You should compile a list of things they should read and watch and then proceed to call them vile and offensive in front of your students, that'll get them interested.

Or just move out of the states and head somewhere better where the people and students are less of a group of fatassed ding-bats (I miss that saying, people should use it more).

Alex, are you actually speaking from experience? Because if so, I'd like to know just [i]where[/i] it is in this world that students & such are not ding-bats?

It's worth trying, Adam. Good luck.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bane [/i]
[B]life sucks wear a helmet [/B][/QUOTE]

Ok.

[img]http://www.portalpcs.com/bryll/DodgeGrenade.jpg[/img]

ROMFL.

lmao

omg..is that you

Ok, yeah, students most everywhere are dingbats, but there are always a few that aren't, try a good university, or a really bad university where you can get away with most anything, at least in places outside the US the bueraucracy isn't quite as bad. In my experience though, try an all boys school, you get away with so much shit there that you'd never get away with anywhere else. At least 75% of the teachers I had in high school would have been fired from a coed or public school. Likewise, the shithole centre for discontinuing education I go to now, wallowing troth of vapid stupidiy that it is, lets teachers have an awful lot of freedom, granted, it's full of dumbasses.

All of that schooling to go to school to just go to school everyday for the rest of your adult life. Congratulations and you don't even have a recruiting officer to blame. But im sure you'll have a great collection of slacks in thirty years.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]lmao

omg..is that you [/B][/QUOTE]

Sure is.

adam, no offense, but you should just quit before you're allowed to release your negative attitude on unsuspecting victims; our country's full of "dissillusioned" teachers already. you're supposed to be bright eyed and idealistic at this point in your career, but you're already calling yourself a "tool," and you don't even have your own classroom. a high percentage of new teachers burn out within their first 3 years...you've already hit the wall.

p.s. rohan, love that pic

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by moe.ron [/i]
[B]
p.s. rohan, love that pic [/B][/QUOTE] "Elven Insomniac Sociopath [b]Rambo[/b] Guy"

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tuffy the Dump Truck [/i]
[B]"Elven Insomniac Sociopath [b]Rambo[/b] Guy" [/B][/QUOTE]

Wouldn't fit on one line

[i]Damn.[/i]

Moe, I'll have to disagree. Being disillusioned is not necessarily a bad thing. When you are trained you get all those ideas that you will become this super-teacher/role model/ultra-creative and stuff-well you lose this innocence after a few months. After a few weeks actually. Then you get by with the things you can actually do, and find you [I]can[/I] make a difference this way. As for the negative attitude being released...dunno. I hate teaching and i pretty much loathed the majority of my students. But somehow they were thrilled by the classes and always thought of me as their favourite teacher, to the point of surprising me with presents on my birthday, crying when I announced i was leaving and writing me letters when i was away.
I think Adam will be fine. He still has more enthusiasm for the job than i ever possessed.

Lupus, is that you? I got really confused there for a while, but I read your profile and it kinda makes sense in that I haven't slept in two days kind of way.

But Lupus, dude, I didn't know you were hot! This is like... a revelation.

So many cult chicks are hot, apparently. I'm beginning to suspect foul play.

'Tis me, dear Rambo...
Thanks for having the "revelation"
Heh... You had already fallen in love with me months ago. For stalking women, remember?
Join the club of my "flirting minions" -since I'm already accused, I might as well hang for a sheep than for a lamb...

Nah, I'm not flirting. Just stating a fact.

Anyway, apologies for misdirecting this otherwise interesting thread. We can move the hot discussion to the "We're hot" thread now, and return you to your regularly scheduled mental meandering.

Damn you for not flirting! Now you made me look stupid.
You'll have to give me a part in a Cult story to make up

Oh dear, not [b]this[/b] again.

what are the chances that you will be put into a story? Slim. What are the chances that you will be put into a story and not made to look like an ass or die? Slimmer.
What are the chances that slimmer is a word? Slimmest.

I say we all write a story and leave out Rohan.

Slimmer is a word. What do you know?

Main Entry: 1slim
Pronunciation: 'slim
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): slim·mer; slim·mest
Etymology: Dutch, bad, inferior, from Middle Dutch slimp crooked, bad; akin to Middle High German slimp awry
Date: 1657
1 : of small diameter or thickness in proportion to the height or length : SLENDER

No, that's ok, I'm quite good at leaving myself out of my own stories as is.

what's the Pledge of Alliance?

also, Lupus, honey, pleeeease put your wolfy back up, i keep on confusing you for a newbie!

word 'em up, everyone.
thanks moe, I know you mean well. I think I'll stick with teaching. I like the students, and I think that I will do well. Teaching is my passion, and I'd be doing it whether or not I was in the classroom or not. If anyone would listen, I would lecture on Chuck's writing. Part of my love for Chuck Palahniuk's writing are the intense and radical challenges of the American dream ideal. Maybe I thought people would sympatize with me in this forum for the same reason, because one of the great obstacles to critically understanding the ideals that supposedly underlie American culture is the school system: bad teachers, false information, false dichotomies, histories full of half truths and outright lies, and an American canon that is critically lacking women and minorities, promoting myths about our perfect forefathers, and a society without boundaries.
If you like Chuck, you're smart, and maybe you criticize the school system as much as I do, and maybe thats the reason we should all be teachers....

I would give myself a C for grammar and punctuation.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Adam [/i]
[B]
If you like Chuck, you're smart, and maybe you criticize the school system as much as I do, and maybe thats the reason we should all be teachers.... [/B][/QUOTE]

Not to make little of what is a very valid point, but I can't be in the same room with kids for more than 5 minutes. Or even large groups of adults for that matter. I'll have to think of another way to bring truth to the little kiddies.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RuByLiCiouS [/i]
[B]what's the Pledge of Alliance?[/B][/QUOTE]

It's our Pledge of Allegiance to our flag. Just a quick utterance of words to ensure that we're all still patriotic Americans.

Can you still recite it?

When I try, I get the Calvin and Hobbes version stuck in my head...

"I pledge allegiance to queen frag, and her mighty state of hysteria....."

Oh yeah, that thing is ingrained in my head, but I usually stick to the Michael Jackson and soda drinks one, you know:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag, Michael Jackson is a...." I think you know the rest.

BTW, Thanks Galactic for the vote of confidence

You are very much welcome. From your recent posts I take it you feel better. You'll be fine...

Ruby. The damn wolf will be back eventually. But the Cultist responsible for the payment of ransom (you know who you are) would better hurry up, because torture will commence soon. And there will be [I]howling[/I]...
PS. Lupus always feels like a newbie...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Adam [/i]
[B]word 'em up, everyone.
thanks moe, I know you mean well. I think I'll stick with teaching. I like the students, and I think that I will do well. Teaching is my passion, and I'd be doing it whether or not I was in the classroom or not. If anyone would listen, I would lecture on Chuck's writing. Part of my love for Chuck Palahniuk's writing are the intense and radical challenges of the American dream ideal. Maybe I thought people would sympatize with me in this forum for the same reason, because one of the great obstacles to critically understanding the ideals that supposedly underlie American culture is the school system: bad teachers, false information, false dichotomies, histories full of half truths and outright lies, and an American canon that is critically lacking women and minorities, promoting myths about our perfect forefathers, and a society without boundaries.
If you like Chuck, you're smart, and maybe you criticize the school system as much as I do, and maybe thats the reason we should all be teachers.... [/B][/QUOTE

so, really, you have issue with the curricula you'll be teaching, especially in the area of american history. that i can understand, and can commisurate with. like you, my life's passion is education and literacy in particular, so i challenge you to teach your students to think critically and write intelligently. afterall, histories full of half-truths and false dichotomies are the best mediums to engage young minds, don't you think?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Adam [/i]
[B]I thought I could change the world, but I am just a government tool of opression and brainwashing. [/B][/QUOTE]

Columbine is not, how you say, the best representative environment for your assessment of your entire profession. In other words, there's soemthing seriously wrong in that town, maybe it's over a Hellmouth like in Buffy, but either way, I think you need to get some other perspectives before you give up on education as a discipline.

Secondly, the tragedy here is, *everyone* has entertained the notion at one time or another that they can change the world, and *everyone* has found themselves in the situation you are. i mean it, no exaggeration, *every-friggin-one*.

Case in point: I wanted to be a journalist. I wanted (and still want, really) to be a high-flying investigative political reporter.

And where is my glorious career now? Nowhere to be found. I'm a sales assistant typing up quotes for a company that makes overhead industrial bridge cranes.

So, even if you're disappointed, at least you've been able to pursue what you want to do. I don't mean to minimize your frustration by saying that, just to get you to look at what's positive.

[QUOTE=Adam]I thought I could change the world, but I am just a government tool of opression and brainwashing. I'll be a fully licensed teacher/tool in about four months. I might as well hang up my brain now while I'm student teaching. Its just going to get worse.

I'm student teaching at the same place I went to high school: Columbine. The same place where 13 students were murdered. In 3 years, 17 students were killed or killed themselves. Two were shot at an after school job at Subway and they still haven't got a clue why. One shot and killed his father and himself the year before the shooting, and the star basketball player hung himself in his garage the year after the shooting.

No shit.

Naturally, I'm teaching English and Social Studies.
I want to destroy their concept of the world, and make them better. Make them tougher. Make them question everything that they were ever taught, so they won't be devoured by the system. They need to be themselves.

Now I'm teaching there and saying the Pledge of Allegiance in the morning as required by the Colorado State General Assembly.
I'm a tool.[/QUOTE]

Propoganda! Teaching is the best job in the world!

Sweet Enola Gay, you're even searching the word "teacher". Wait here, I'm calling Bellevue...

[QUOTE=Ozymandias]Sweet Enola Gay, you're even searching the word "teacher". Wait here, I'm calling Bellevue...[/QUOTE]
Bellevue?

The hospital in Manhattan that threw all the crazy people out on the streets after being unable and unwilling to provide for them. Accounts for the big population of crazy homeless guys in NYC.

[QUOTE=Adam]I thought I could change the world, but I am just a government tool of opression and brainwashing. I'll be a fully licensed teacher/tool in about four months. I might as well hang up my brain now while I'm student teaching. Its just going to get worse.

I'm student teaching at the same place I went to high school: Columbine. The same place where 13 students were murdered. In 3 years, 17 students were killed or killed themselves. Two were shot at an after school job at Subway and they still haven't got a clue why. One shot and killed his father and himself the year before the shooting, and the star basketball player hung himself in his garage the year after the shooting.

No shit.

Naturally, I'm teaching English and Social Studies.
I want to destroy their concept of the world, and make them better. Make them tougher. Make them question everything that they were ever taught, so they won't be devoured by the system. They need to be themselves.

Now I'm teaching there and saying the Pledge of Allegiance in the morning as required by the Colorado State General Assembly.
I'm a tool.[/QUOTE]

Keep going man, when you get some teens one on one, it makes a big difference, even if their too imatture to really express how much some mature guidance is good for them. You can help, I mean it.

woah, *bump*

[QUOTE=galactic]Moe, I'll have to disagree. Being disillusioned is not necessarily a bad thing. When you are trained you get all those ideas that you will become this super-teacher/role model/ultra-creative and stuff-well you lose this innocence after a few months. After a few weeks actually. Then you get by with the things you can actually do, and find you [I]can[/I] make a difference this way. As for the negative attitude being released...dunno. I hate teaching and i pretty much loathed the majority of my students. But somehow they were thrilled by the classes and always thought of me as their favourite teacher, to the point of surprising me with presents on my birthday, crying when I announced i was leaving and writing me letters when i was away.
I think Adam will be fine. He still has more enthusiasm for the job than i ever possessed.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I am this super-teacher/role model/ ultra creative and stuff.