The Gossip Thread
For one a lot of the celeb moms stage outings with their children but for the most part they don't spend time taking care of their own kids.
Ohhh, that's right! Dentist gossip, yay!
What you're saying makes me sad though. 
Yeah, it's quite upsetting. I think I was more surprised by who was doing this though. Only one name sticks out to me because I couldn't wrap my head around it.
Think Project Runway.
not surprised at all. power bitch doesn´t have time to waste.
It's amazing the things the actors will say and tell you when you are performing a personal service as your Mom. Ibadan the same thing when I did the Movies and broadway. Sometimes, just like with anyone, it's TMI.
Whatever Whore!
You know who is actually super down to earth? Think America's Next Top Model. Now think of the only person who scares THAT crazy bitch.
For one a lot of the celeb moms stage outings with their children but for the most part they don't spend time taking care of their own kids.
Ohhh, that's right! Dentist gossip, yay!
What you're saying makes me sad though.
Yeah, it's quite upsetting. I think I was more surprised by who was doing this though. Only one name sticks out to me because I couldn't wrap my head around it.
Think Project Runway.
Noooooo!
Ugh, that sucks. I loved her.
In my experience, the lower grade the celebrity (i.e. C-List) the more rude they are. Having said that, we all know Madonna's a bitch.
Yeah, there are some things that I wish I hadn't learned, even if it is just gossip.
I heard that the guy who sings your body is a wonderland( I'm trying not to name any names so if you can't figure out who this is too bad) is a real freak in the bed and not in a good way. I never really liked him in the first place but learning a few things about him just turned me off to him even more. I still manage to enjoy some of his music sometimes somehow.
Didn't he like date everyone in the showbiz? Including that country girl who wrote a whole album about him?
Probably. He sounds like a sex addict and he's into some weird,kinky,degrading things in the bedroom.
what, like leaving breadcrumbs on the bedsheet? that's pretty fucking barbaric.
Even worse...he leaves sugar in the sheets...(I wonder if a candy loving cultie will catch on to this and put his head down in shame for a little while contemplating his "sandy" sheets)
You know who's family outings I always think looks staged. Gwen Stefani.
her whole life seems staged, but I think it partly only seems that way because she's always so perfectly styled and made up. She doesn't have a casual mode.
Is the idea that rich famous people hire others to care for their kids and then make "good parent" appearances in public with them that shocking?
Most sane people would hire help if they could afford it. Question is whether people are idolizing famous parents who hire help to deal with it all except when the public is watching? Or if those famous parents are really participating behind the scenes too and just happen to have enough help to let them be pulled together in public. I mean, it's not like any everyday parent would go in public with puke on their shoulder if they had someone to point it out and wipe it off.
Also, Celebrity Gossip :Obama Reelected.
Of course it's not surprising for celeb parents to hire help but it's another to not be involved in any way with your children aside from a photo opportunity that's going to make you some more money to pay for the hired help. Celebs are having kids and exploiting them for more money.
20 years ago no one really cared which B, C, or even an A list celeb was pregnant. With the paparazzo/TMZ on the rise, having babies turned into a trend and now there are shows revolved around having/raising kids. The more the better.
There's this Swedish woman (known as "The Swede" to me and my coworkers) that works for one of the departments at the university. She's not the brightest bulb in the box, and she tends to call the Admissions Office with all her silly little questions. It's so annooooying. Do some research, make an effort to learn something, instead of calling us every damn time. DO YOUR JOB, WOMAN!
How did she get hired?
So my friend/roommate is dating this black dude and he's really cool. He only drinks Busch and he drives this Ford Fiesta but it's dropped and modded out like crazy and it's a blast to drive. He's a typical black guy but he's not a typical black guy. We're pretty good friends, we get along well. Anyway, my brother and his idiot gangster friend from LA are always hating on this dude and i can't think of a logical reason. The dude has never been anything but civil and mature and i've never once seen him lose his cool even when his girlfriend/my roommate occasionally gets wasted and difficult. The only thing i can think of is that my brother and the gangster dude are just jealous because they didn't get anywhere with his girlfriend, even though they both tried.
Just the other day, my brother said he and the gangster dude were talking about the black guy and how he runs a record company and he's supposed to be "gangsta" but he drives an electric car. First of all, it's not an electric car, i don't even think it's a hybrid. And second, so what if it's an electric car? The black dude is way more legit and real than my brother and his idiot gangster friend. The gangster friend is one of the most annoying people i know and he has little game when it comes to women. That and he drives this beat up Chevy Caprice or something and he barely gets by. The dude has to be breathalyzed four times a day because he's on probation for some dumb shit.
Also, i know she's my friend but since she's become my roommate, i see what she's really like, which is gross and trashy and slobby and disrespectful and kind of dumb. I don't know what everyone's obsession with her is. Ugh. There.
Stop fighting it and tell this man how you feel. But you both have girlfriends so it may complicate things.
My favorite part involved the Ford Fiesta.
The front seats of a Ford Fiesta go all the way back.
Just sayin'.
This is why we can't have nice things.
I'n telling you, it's a cool Fiesta.
Oh, shit; I may be thinking of the Festiva. I forget which.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Yeah, that story sounds so real it sounds fake. I like it either way. I especially like ritts comment about it. Except he forgot that you're gonna be a baby daddy soon. So baby mama drama is a must in this whole affair that's gonna go down.
I have to hide Taylor's (formerly lovebomb) posts on FB. They are so full of hate it makes me really uncomfortable. Newsflash Taylor: The patriarchy did exist. I will give you that, but damn. It hasn't existed in about a decade or two. If it did, why do women win most custody battles despite the competency of the man in question? Why do women, on average, serve 40 percent less prison time for the same crime as men? Why would we make life so hard for ourselves? There is a right way to be a feminist and there is a wrong way. You only focus on women in the matter. That is not equality.
I'm sorry everyone. I just had to get that out. I'm just sick of people who basically want me to die because I'm white and male. I have privilege. I acknowledge that. I do not take it for granted. I fight for equality for all. Now stop calling me scum!
Everyone do me a favor. Think of three people you respect and think of what about them you respect.
Then think of three you don't respect and what about them you don't.
Take a second and do this before reading on...
According to Carl Jung, you can find those traits in you.
Every time I find myself really annoyed with another's behavior I ask myself, do I act like that?
In this case I wonder, do I make an identity for myself being a victim?
I may very well need to work on this.
Is this really a common problem for you? I'm sorry if it is, you obviously don't deserve to be treated like that.
But, I'm going to be very honest right here, I've seen the way you argue or even state certain things here sometimes. You can come across as patronizing. Or just very assuming. It might just be me but I have felt annoyance toward you for that reason.
I'm just saying that it might not just be because you're white and male but because the way you write apparently has potential to piss certain people off.
That said, I like white males. I have a lot of white male friends. And I like you, Mike. I wish people would not call you scum because that is an egregious lie.
Actually my parents say I use the phrase Of Course too much. I guess I come off to others as thinking that they're stupid. Another thing to work on.
Thanks Jess. I'd hug you but my arms can't reach Texas from here. If I took about 14 steps to my left I could, but I'm really tired at the moment. 
Do women really win most custody "battles"? Or do couples most often agree that the children will stay with the female parent?
I'm actually asking, not being an ass.
There are certain biological forces that cloud our vision from being purely objective, one of those is the innate drive to protect and hold up motherhood for the propagation of the species.
Any man, father, attempting to remove a child from its mother is going to have a high burden of proof of her being unfit on him otherwise he will be seen as an ass. This isn't my opinion completely, this is just the way our brains work as a part of the species surviving. The same way any female who attempts to remove the right and drive of Protector from a male to the point that he is emasculated will be seen as an ass.
It is the sort of obstacle that needs to be taken into consideration when contemplating political issues such as equality. We may be unable to override our evolutionary forces, and if we try, to what extent will it be of betterment?
The "patriarchy" is crumbling, yes. It didn't and won't come down in one fell swoop however, and for that matter, disassembling it completely may not be in the best interest of society.
Equality of value does not mean made of the same stuff, should be remembered.
Being angry about things most often serves only to weaken ones cause, whether that be tearing down the patriarchy or pointing out that there is a lot less to be torn down than imagined.
Then think of three you don't respect and what about them you don't.
Take a second and do this before reading on...
According to Carl Jung, you can find those traits in you.
Every time I find myself really annoyed with another's behavior I ask myself, do I act like that?
In this case I wonder, do I make an identity for myself being a victim?
I may very well need to work on this.
I knew about this and it's totally legit. I hate it when people make the same mistakes I do, when they do stuff I do and don't like, etc. And the people I admire are mostly more intelligent/well-read/cultured than I am, so yeah.
I'm actually asking, not being an ass.
It used to be, a long time ago, that the idea of a woman having custody of children was laughable. But of course, this was at a time when women didn't have many rights.
Then, for most of the recent decades, it was automatically assumed by the courts in general that the children needed to stay with the mother, simply as a matter of importance to the raising of the child.
This has been changing in recent years, as far as I can tell based on what I've heard and read, so that the determination of custody is made more based on all criteria, looking at income, but ALSO looking at the familial situation and the personal circumstances of each parent.
Thanks fano.
in other words we are in fact reaching a balance.
The scales were tipped so far in one direction for so long that we over compensated in the other direction initially.
Exactly, I think that's the case. Humans have a very great tendency of doing that, unfortunately. But hopefully decisions are being made logically now. 
I'm actually asking, not being an ass.
There are certain biological forces that cloud our vision from being purely objective, one of those is the innate drive to protect and hold up motherhood for the propagation of the species.
Any man, father, attempting to remove a child from its mother is going to have a high burden of proof of her being unfit on him otherwise he will be seen as an ass. This isn't my opinion completely, this is just the way our brains work as a part of the species surviving. The same way any female who attempts to remove the right and drive of Protector from a male to the point that he is emasculated will be seen as an ass.
It is the sort of obstacle that needs to be taken into consideration when contemplating political issues such as equality. We may be unable to override our evolutionary forces, and if we try, to what extent will it be of betterment?
The "patriarchy" is crumbling, yes. It didn't and won't come down in one fell swoop however, and for that matter, disassembling it completely may not be in the best interest of society.
Equality of value does not mean made of the same stuff, should be remembered.
Being angry about things most often serves only to weaken ones cause, whether that be tearing down the patriarchy or pointing out that there is a lot less to be torn down than imagined.
Thanks Amber. I really respect your opinion on matters like this.
Then think of three you don't respect and what about them you don't.
Take a second and do this before reading on...
According to Carl Jung, you can find those traits in you.
Every time I find myself really annoyed with another's behavior I ask myself, do I act like that?
In this case I wonder, do I make an identity for myself being a victim?
I may very well need to work on this.
Interesting. I like that.
When I was a teenager and hated my parents and every little personality quirk of theirs (like the stupid way my dad responds to every situation by laughing, even when there isn't anything funny about it... and the way my mom acts like a stone cold bitch sometimes by just ignoring the things that upset her...), the worst thing in the world was realizing how I'm just a mashup of their worst qualities and most annoying mannerisms. But I guess the odds are good that I got some of the good stuff too though.
I think something that should be considered when one encounters an angry feminist, is that they to an extent have the same mentality as an angry black person.
(I tried really hard to come up with a more politically correct way to put that, sorry, just deal with it like that I suppose)
A black person who is angry and self-righteous about equality and hating the system and the white man has in the back of their mind the fact that at one point in recent history they (their kind) were not considered human, were essentially property.
An angry feminist has the same things in her mind. There was a point not long ago when women were little better than property.
There is the argument that But You Aren't property yourself and have never had to live through that trauma neither has any of the generations of your family currently alive. (not completely true necessary for women, remember the right to vote was only forced a hundred years ago, there are women alive now, though few, who were born into a world that considered them incompetent of voting).
The fight and anger is not because people have personally experienced being property, it is because they understand the implications of that and want the rest of the world to fully understand it to so that a time NEVER comes when it is acceptable ever again.
Thanks Jess. I'd hug you but my arms can't reach Texas from here. If I took about 14 steps to my left I could, but I'm really tired at the moment. :P
Of course.
I'm actually asking, not being an ass.
There are certain biological forces that cloud our vision from being purely objective, one of those is the innate drive to protect and hold up motherhood for the propagation of the species.
Any man, father, attempting to remove a child from its mother is going to have a high burden of proof of her being unfit on him otherwise he will be seen as an ass. This isn't my opinion completely, this is just the way our brains work as a part of the species surviving. The same way any female who attempts to remove the right and drive of Protector from a male to the point that he is emasculated will be seen as an ass.
It is the sort of obstacle that needs to be taken into consideration when contemplating political issues such as equality. We may be unable to override our evolutionary forces, and if we try, to what extent will it be of betterment?
The "patriarchy" is crumbling, yes. It didn't and won't come down in one fell swoop however, and for that matter, disassembling it completely may not be in the best interest of society.
Equality of value does not mean made of the same stuff, should be remembered.
Being angry about things most often serves only to weaken ones cause, whether that be tearing down the patriarchy or pointing out that there is a lot less to be torn down than imagined.
Pepper, you're so wise and shit.
I'm tired of seeing just angry or passive-agressive posts relating to feminism in my news feed. Yay for women, but seriously? Ugh.
(I tried really hard to come up with a more politically correct way to put that, sorry, just deal with it like that I suppose)
A black person who is angry and self-righteous about equality and hating the system and the white man has in the back of their mind the fact that at one point in recent history they (their kind) were not considered human, were essentially property.
An angry feminist has the same things in her mind. There was a point not long ago when women were little better than property.
There is the argument that But You Aren't property yourself and have never had to live through that trauma neither has any of the generations of your family currently alive. (not completely true necessary for women, remember the right to vote was only forced a hundred years ago, there are women alive now, though few, who were born into a world that considered them incompetent of voting).
The fight and anger is not because people have personally experienced being property, it is because they understand the implications of that and want the rest of the world to fully understand it to so that a time NEVER comes when it is acceptable ever again.
I want you to realize that you just opened my mind to a new level of understanding. Thank you so much! 
Cue Taylor...
She never visits this site anymore. I posted this here because I don't want to get her more angry.
Speaking of which, do you have Facebook, Hattie?
I don't think women are overcompensated. We get paid less than men for doing the same jobs, we have to fight for the right to decide what we want to do with our bodies (I'm talking abortion obviously), people still get away with rape because of a woman's choice of clothing.
No one likes hearing anyone being aggressive and over the top with their beliefs but it's so incorrect to dismiss all feminism, it's still necessary to be aware of this stuff.
I've heard this "white guys have it so tough nowadays" stuff before but come on. Really. It is not that bad. Ignore the occasional fanatic, the reality is you don't have it that bad. Women don't have a huge way to go, we don't have it really bad, but there are definitely groups who have it worse. How much longer does a black man spend in prison than a white man for the same crime?
I'm not defending Taylor and I don't even know what she said. You sound like that Ben Folds song, "Y'all don't know what it's like, being male middle class and white!" I'd try not to think too hard about the ravings of the odd person, they are definitely the minority.
Yep, I have Facebook.
No one likes hearing anyone being aggressive and over the top with their beliefs but it's so incorrect to dismiss all feminism, it's still necessary to be aware of this stuff.
Well said, Amii.
The reasons why I am more suspicious of males is based on facts. I take the statistics straight to the mortality rate.
In contrast to men, the killing of a woman by a stranger was rare (RR = 0.18). More than twice as many women were shot and killed by their husband or intimate acquaintance than were murdered by strangers using guns, knives, or any other means. Although women comprise more than half the U.S. population, they committed only 14.7% of the homicides noted during the study interval. In contrast to men, who killed nonintimate acquaintances, strangers, or victims of undetermined relationship in 80% of cases, women killed their spouse, an intimate acquaintance, or a family member in 60% of cases. When men killed with a gun, they most commonly shot a stranger or a non-family acquaintance.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092
So, 80% of males were responsible for the homicides. And this makes me raise the question of how many of the homicides by women in self defense*(auto correct oops) from abuse? And a woman is twice as likely to get murdered by an acquaintance and the reverse is true to men. So yeah, I'm gonna have trust issues as would any sane woman.
Btw, I don't care how much men hate Lifetime channel. I am more suspicious of men who laugh at it, because it's all based on true stories. I'm sure we are one degree from most of those women, if not similar in one instance. I won't even go to rape stats.
Also, I'm looking for the entire men vs. women murder rate for the entire USA. I feel that there will be an even more significant imbalance, but it needs research. Will hunt for that tonight.
I think that the "Age of the White Male" is coming to an end certainly, but I've always said (to people I know will understand the way I mean it) that I feel very lucky to have been born a white male, for reasons of social position and advantage in general.
And I'm not accusing every man.
I'm just cautious. It's about survival as a woman.
80% of males weren't murderers! You have phrased that wrongly there.
Oh, I don't know about that.
This is why we can't have nice things.
My own experience with the divorce courts in regards to child custody is that so long as the two parents agree beforehand and during, there's no issue whatsoever. I think when divorces are extremely bitter and the parents are being immature and selfish and using the children as pawns is when the judge steps in and decisions get made - and yes, generally in favor of the mother.
Thankfully, our situation was nothing like that. Also, my ex husband knows he can trust me to be a good mother and have the childrens' best interest in mind at all times. Our divorce decree states that he has them every other weekend, at very specific times (that's true no matter the state....solid perameters are set and that's just part of it). And then on certain holidays (we take turns, basically). While it's true we stick to the every other weekend thing, I have never ever ever kept any sort of schedule in regards to when he gets them on Friday and when they come back to me on Sunday. It's whatever works for Jeff. He usually picks them up around 3:30 or 4 (he gets off work fairly early because he goes in at like 5 AM...by choice!) and then he brings them here sometime Sunday evening. He needs to switch up a weekend, fine. On Christmas Day, he feels like it's important for them to be here at this house because of tradition, so he just comes here and spends the day with us. When his girlfriend can be in town, she comes, too. I realize not everyone has it like this, but our problems were never between the four of us...the problems were between the two of us. That's all settled because we're not married anymore, and over my dead body will my kids ever feel any tug of war between us over them.
But yeah, what Imke said.
Also, I'm not dismissive of the feminist movement, but I don't like hearing that bitter hatred that a lot of them have for men. I have sons, and I hope they stay away from women like that. I love Taylor a lot, but she advocates out right violence against men just because they are men, and I'm never gonna be down with that.
*le sigh*