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When purchasing anything, my first recourse of action is to always check on-line for the cheapest price. But if something's about to be released, I will wait for the date, go to a local store to take advantage of sales, and pick the cleanest copy I can find. In the past, the store sale price is usually a couple of dollars higher than online... but, in the past, I've received damaged books in the mail so I figured the couple dollars were worth the hassle.

That said, I visited Barnes & Noble this week to pick up Chuck's new book and they charged me cover price. This stinks because it was selling for around $17 dollars online (including barnesandnoble.com). WTF--the last time I can remember this kind of pricing was at Borders. And how did that turn out.

Seriously, how do they expect to keep their stores open charging so much. This really bugs me for a number of reasons:

First--I picked up a copy of Frog and Toad for my son from the discount aisle

Second--they have great reading groups for children over the summer

Third--many have knowledgeable staff members who recommend pretty good books and authors

Those are the first three that come to mind--but I'm sure there's more. For me, this is a sad day.

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Chuck has a new book out?

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Yeah but i can kill about two hours in a Barnes and Noble. Especially the one where i live. It's a really nice one.

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Nachos, every day! Dying sounds great, I don't know why people get so upset about it.
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Rrrrreeeeemix? What's that mean? Is the new narrator Missy Elliot?

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LitReactor did a comparison. There are some extra chapters. Things are rearranged. The book doesn't read straight through - the chapters end with "Turn to Chapter 21." And you flip through the book that way.

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Nachos, every day! Dying sounds great, I don't know why people get so upset about it.
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did you speak to a manager, durden? do B&N not pricematch their website in store? pretty low if they don't. nearly every company will price match their own websites prices.

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Ritt wrote:
Rrrrreeeeemix? What's that mean? Is the new narrator Missy Elliot?

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Lol at this whole thread.

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did you speak to a manager, durden? do B&N not pricematch their website in store? pretty low if they don't. nearly every company will price match their own websites prices.

They don't price match--I was told that it had something to do with matching prices for different areas or something. But, in reality, it boils down to we have you here and you'll probably but it anyway. Unfortunately, that type of policy is going to drive me to just buy it from amazon.
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Yeah but i can kill about two hours in a Barnes and Noble. Especially the one where i live. It's a really nice one.

No kidding. There's a free standing one where I live that has a lot of cool stuff (like a used section--but the used books are ridiculously over-priced) and the activities for kids. I probably still go to the reading groups... I just won't be able to get the kids books after.
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Remember Blockbuster?

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Barnes and Noble is essentially doing everything it can to push it's digital sales. That's why they changed their membership card's benefits. It USED to be 20% off hardcover and 10% off most everything else, but NOW it's a flat 10% in store and FREE SHIPPING. It almost seems that there're trying to force you out of the store. It seems to me that they could have just thrown the free shipping on there anyway to encourage their customers to go to their website. The problem of the whole card issue is that Amazon offers free shipping already AND THEY ARE CHEAPER. I'd really like B&N to capitalize on the only real advantage that they have, which is actual physical stores. I'm really tired of this whole physical store business of just telling me to order it off their fucking website. If I wanted to go to the website I would have. Also: Fuck Nook.

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Remember Blockbuster?

They still have those in the hood
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I only really book shop at little hole in the wall hidden secondhand book stores that I find. Because I am poor, again. And the books tend to be under three dollars. I had a brief fling with feeling all fancy and shopping at B&N this last winter, though. Universe knocked my uppity ways down quickly.

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Barnes and Noble is essentially doing everything it can to push it's digital sales. That's why they changed their membership card's benefits. It USED to be 20% off hardcover and 10% off most everything else, but NOW it's a flat 10% in store and FREE SHIPPING. It almost seems that there're trying to force you out of the store. It seems to me that they could have just thrown the free shipping on there anyway to encourage their customers to go to their website. The problem of the whole card issue is that Amazon offers free shipping already AND THEY ARE CHEAPER. I'd really like B&N to capitalize on the only real advantage that they have, which is actual physical stores. I'm really tired of this whole physical store business of just telling me to order it off their fucking website. If I wanted to go to the website I would have. Also: Fuck Nook.

You have such a weird way of writing. You could have said their/there so much less there and it would have sounded so much better, there. And 'Membership card's benefits' is correct but you could have just said 'Membership card benefits.'

Lol at your return at the cult, though. Suppening?

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dbdurden wrote:
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Remember Blockbuster?

They still have those in the hood

You could get video cassette tapes there.
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There was one in Duluth, GA (not the hood at all) but it closed year before last. All of their stuff was for sale at cheap prices so I got Giancarlo some xbox games but no DVD's because who buys DVD's anymore?

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The last Blockbuster near my house is closing finally. There's a big banner that says so except at the bottom it says "This store only" like Blockbuster is insecure about their failing business so they have to assure us that Blockbuster as a whole isn't closing. Just this store. And that one. And that one.

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Blockbuster has been awful for so long - it's their fault they're closing.

I remember handing in my CV there about six years ago, which they never followed up on. That branch got smashed up last summer's riots and has since closed. WHO'S THE FAILURE NOW?

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I thought that all the blockbuster stores had been shut down. Apparently there are around 1,000 stores left. That's less than a quarter of the number they had a few years ago. Looks like the trend will continue and the remaining stores will close as their leases come up for renewal.

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I love going to Barnes and Noble. This makes me so sad that we are actually discussing this.

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Alecia wrote:
There was one in Duluth, GA (not the hood at all) but it closed year before last. All of their stuff was for sale at cheap prices so I got Giancarlo some xbox games but no DVD's because who buys DVD's anymore?

I know of one in an OK neighborhood--surrounded by businesses but only a mile down the road from crack-whore central. The other one is in the artsy part of the city but, at night, there are many shootings (two blocks down, a 21-year-old was shot outside a club two nights ago). I think I'll take my kid to rent Happy Scrappy Hero Puff someplace else.

I still buy dvds--they're cheaper then blu-rays and, if they don't have a bunch of special effects, who can tell the difference with the upconversion?
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I buy DVDs too. Though I was just commenting to my brother how shitty Best Buy's DVD section is now that nobody buys them any more.

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Hm. Except for they "there're" SNAFU, I don't see anything horribly amiss. It looks more or less syntactically correct to me. Though upon re-reading it, it looks like maybe I'm developing a weird Midwestern speech/ writing pattern... Strange. I'm also wondering if the ownership (w/r/t memberships card's) is a regional thing as well. In Michigan, there's an odd dialectal habit of assigning ownership to places that in the true form have no possessive (e.g. A person would work at Ford's or shop at Meijer's, when in reality, said person would work at Ford or shop at Meijer). I'll have to be more vigilant about their/there in the future.

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Lazlo Of The Dead wrote:
In Michigan, there's an odd dialectal habit of assigning ownership to places that in the true form have no possessive (e.g. A person would work at Ford's or shop at Meijer's, when in reality, said person would work at Ford or shop at Meijer).

That's a Southern thing, too, but one usually sees it with old people.

"I'm going to Target's"

"Got that at Wal-Mart's"

Also, they don't understand that you buy groceries at Publix, not "at the public".

Weird.

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I've only been to Barnes & Noble once in my life! It was great though, spent ages there, and bought my giant serial killer book.

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Lazlo Of The Dead wrote:
In Michigan, there's an odd dialectal habit of assigning ownership to places that in the true form have no possessive (e.g. A person would work at Ford's or shop at Meijer's, when in reality, said person would work at Ford or shop at Meijer). I'll have to be more vigilant about their/there in the future.

I constantly make fun of people for this!

And the last time I mentioned Meijer here, nobody knew what I was talking about. I'm glad somebody knows what it is. But seriously, it's also the number one offender for people adding the possessive, "I'm going to Meijer's."

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Nachos, every day! Dying sounds great, I don't know why people get so upset about it.
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Barnes & Noble is alright, I guess. Cool place to pick up magazines. I won't cry if they go under though. Books-A-Million on the other hand, I cannot fucking stand.

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I was in my 20s before I realized that there was no apostrophe s in the name.
It was a sad day.

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I took my two children to the story hour at the local Barnes & Noble this morning. I changed both of their diapers before I left but, right at the start of story time, my nine-month-old started to fuss. Upon inspection, I found a dark wet spot--the tell-tale sign of a diaper blow-out.

Being alone, with both kids, my options are limited. I could go into the men's room, with the baby changing station, but then my inquisitive three-year-old would be left to roam freely while I held the baby on the counter. I could find a secluded corner to change her but, then again, the three-year-old wanted to hear story time. I opted to find a hallway, off to the side, to change her so her older brother could listen to the story within eyesight.

Other parents there were great. One lady asked if I wanted her to watch the boy, exclaiming, "I've been there." Another lady, there with her daughter, saved our spot.

But, between the two offers for help, a Barnes & Noble associate came up and pointed out that I shouldn't be changing her there: saying that there were changing stations in the restroom and this was a high traffic area.

I agree that it was not the best place to change her. Another associate and a mother with two older daughters came by came by--both giving me smiles saying either "sorry you have to go through that" or "look at that dumb ass." Furthermore, the floor that she was laying on was filthy--I'm a germaphobe--but the reader only reads two stories and her brother wanted to listen. And, finally, when she came to scold me, I was in the middle of cleaning up a monster sized load of crap that, because she split my attention, was getting on my hands.

Now, I guess I was breaking the rules. And she had every right to tell me not to change a diaper there (and call out to another employee to "watch out because we have a mess over here" that wasn't anywhere near me in the first place).

But, after story time, I had every right to return the three books that I was going to buy back to the shelves.

I'm not saying that the customer is always right and I should be allowed to do whatever I want. I am saying thta maybe you want to mention it to me when I'm able to talk and use some decorum.

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Man, I've been there, too.

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I took my two children to the story hour at the local Barnes & Noble this morning. I changed both of their diapers before I left but, right at the start of story time, my nine-month-old started to fuss. Upon inspection, I found a dark wet spot--the tell-tale sign of a diaper blow-out.

Being alone, with both kids, my options are limited. I could go into the men's room, with the baby changing station, but then my inquisitive three-year-old would be left to roam freely while I held the baby on the counter. I could find a secluded corner to change her but, then again, the three-year-old wanted to hear story time. I opted to find a hallway, off to the side, to change her so her older brother could listen to the story within eyesight.

Other parents there were great. One lady asked if I wanted her to watch the boy, exclaiming, "I've been there." Another lady, there with her daughter, saved our spot.

But, between the two offers for help, a Barnes & Noble associate came up and pointed out that I shouldn't be changing her there: saying that there were changing stations in the restroom and this was a high traffic area.

I agree that it was not the best place to change her. Another associate and a mother with two older daughters came by came by--both giving me smiles saying either "sorry you have to go through that" or "look at that dumb ass." Furthermore, the floor that she was laying on was filthy--I'm a germaphobe--but the reader only reads two stories and her brother wanted to listen. And, finally, when she came to scold me, I was in the middle of cleaning up a monster sized load of crap that, because she split my attention, was getting on my hands.

Now, I guess I was breaking the rules. And she had every right to tell me not to change a diaper there (and call out to another employee to "watch out because we have a mess over here" that wasn't anywhere near me in the first place).

But, after story time, I had every right to return the three books that I was going to buy back to the shelves.

I'm not saying that the customer is always right and I should be allowed to do whatever I want. I am saying thta maybe you want to mention it to me when I'm able to talk and use some decorum.

1. I find it cumbersome to have to carry milk home. Why would you even bother going to a book store with two infants?

2. One cannot simply change a diaper in the hallway of an establishment.

3. You do know that this isn't Barnes and Noble customer support?

4. You are SO Starbucks generation it's sickening. I can imagine you writing out heartfelt complaint cards, getting a little tingle when you speak six nouns to order a coffee. Are you aware that your testosterone drops in half every time you get a new points card?

5. You said that she had every right to tell you not to change the diaper there, so why exactly are you bitching?

6. Stop saying 'every right.' Think less about your rights as a consumer and more along the lines of your ability to reason as a thinking human being.

7. What did you expect, that the baby would give up shitting and pissing because its older sibling wanted to hear some whackjob read a story?

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I'm not really sure why you are upset. The middle of a store is not the place for changing a diaper.

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To avoid admonishment by proxy, I feel it necessary to explain that when I say I've been there, too, I mean to say that I've been in a situation where I had to change a runny shit diaper in less than ideal circumstances. Not that I've ever changed a diaper outside of a designated area within a place of business.

My cousin got drunk once in a restaurant where our entire family was gathered. His baby pooped her pants, and he put her on top of an empty table to change her because he was drunk and they were close to closing and he didn't think anyone would mind. We all pretended like we didn't know him. It was gross.

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Nightrious wrote:

1. I find it cumbersome to have to carry milk home. Why would you even bother going to a book store with two infants?


I agree. But if I brought them into the world, I feel the need to culture and nurture them.
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. One cannot simply change a diaper in the hallway of an establishment.

Looking back, I should've took the two out to the van--strapping in the three-year-old while I changed the infant
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You do know that this isn't Barnes and Noble customer support?

Point taken.
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You are SO Starbucks generation it's sickening. I can imagine you writing out heartfelt complaint cards, getting a little tingle when you speak six nouns to order a coffee. Are you aware that your testosterone drops in half every time you get a new points card?

Not even a coffee drinker. But I'm guessing that wasn't your point. This was just a case of Culting while pissed--in hindsight, not my finest hour. But I do feel better.
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You said that she had every right to tell you not to change the diaper there, so why exactly are you bitching?

Because I was in the hoity toity part of town and I don't like dealing with condescending people. I was in the wrong, I should've just dealt with it.
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Stop saying 'every right.' Think less about your rights as a consumer and more along the lines of your ability to reason as a thinking human being.

I didn't proofread.
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What did you expect, that the baby would give up shitting and pissing because its older sibling wanted to hear some whackjob read a story?

Well, I thought she got it all out before we left.
She didn't.
And it was an amazing amount of poop.
Once I saw the runny-crap seeping through the diaper (to go back to your last statement) I lost much of my ability to reason as a thinking human being. Again, I should've left but (at that point) it seemed important to have my son hear that 'whackjob' read. Not my finest hour of parenting but, half the time, I really don't know what I'm doing anyway.
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I'm not really sure why you are upset. The middle of a store is not the place for changing a diaper.

Not the middle of the store but you're right.
Though, in defense: after years of working in retail, you'd be surprised what people do in stores. This may have clouded my judgement.
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We all pretended like we didn't know him. It was gross.

If I had family there, they probably would act the same.
But, if they were there, someone would've watched the boy while I changed the girl.

I guess that the moral of this story is to stay home and let the kids watch Spongebob and Jerry Springer. It's a whole lot easier.

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That's gross. If you started changing your baby's diaper next to me I'd kick your baby.

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Subby you would kick a baby regardless.

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That's gross. If you started changing your baby's diaper next to me I'd kick your baby.

Wouldn't be a good idea.
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I was in the wrong, I should've just dealt with it.

Not my finest hour of parenting but, half the time, I really don't know what I'm doing anyway.

You know, it's kinda rude to rip yourself two new assholes when I'm trying to rip you just one.

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I posted while pissed, listened to the criticism, realized that in this case I was wrong, and now I'm moving on. I still think the woman could of addressed me differently (which is what set me off in the first place) but I was in the wrong.

After listening to you and Des, I remember an incident that happened when I worked at a drugstore years ago. The store was in a mall and a woman came in, bought diapers for her baby who had the same problem, and proceeded to change the baby at a closed register. I understand why--the food court with the public restrooms was on the other side of the half mile long mall--but I was basically thinking wtf? I sat back, didn't say a thing, and, when she came up to apologize, smiled and said that it was no problem and that I understood because my job is customer service. Later, I was motherfucking her while cleaning the other register.

Basically, I'm amazed at how batshit crazy you get when staying home with a nine-month-old and three-year-old. I am only doing it for two months. While I really do enjoy my time with them, I've had a couple unflattering moments like this one. I have a lot of respect for stay at home parents. I have even more respect for daycare providers--it's hard for me and I love my kids... I can't imagine doing this for strangers.

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You know, it's kinda rude to rip yourself two new assholes when I'm trying to rip you just one.

This made me laugh out loud. Funniest thing I've read in a while.
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I posted while pissed, listened to the criticism, realized that in this case I was wrong, and now I'm moving on. I still think the woman could of addressed me differently (which is what set me off in the first place) but I was in the wrong.

I don't know why everybody is being so serious. Who cares? And I'm not trying to be a jerk. You made a mistake. And like you said, you're moving on.
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Nachos, every day! Dying sounds great, I don't know why people get so upset about it.