Sarah Palin: The Comedy Gift that Keeps On Giving

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So Palin's giving some kind of keynote address at a Tea Party nutbag convention, talking about her vision for our country.

And apparently...she wrote notes on her hand. A former candidate for the second in command of our nation wrote cribnotes on her HAND!

And were they difficult policy issues? Complex negotiating points to remember?

It looks like the words Palin has written on her hand are:

"Energy"
"Budget (cut?)"
"Tax"
"Lift American spirits"
This is just straight up EMBARRASSING.

She can't even remember her own trite catchphrases.

http://tv.gawker.com/5466004/did-sarah-palin-write-notes-on-her-hand-at-...

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They're taking a closer look at their notes.

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I watched that last night. Says it's a revolution and America is ready for it! She also said Healthcare reform is needed but only pointed out two things that should be done: tort reform and selling insurance across state lines. I thought she could've added getting rid of pre-existing conditions but I guess she doesn't care about that!

She also hit the microphone with her hand while she was trying to use her hands while talking. LOL.

The question and answer time was completely staged/rehearsed.

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Yeah, but I bet even she knows what Avatar is.

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Adelaide.Alexa wrote:

The question and answer time was completely staged/rehearsed.

But that was when she had to LOOK AT HER HAND NOTES!

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There is nothing wrong with preparing a few notes for a speech. All public speakers do it. It's not as tho she was taking a test or anything so it isn't exactly cheating. These are just her talking points. If she had written these notes on index cards would that make you feel better?

Its not like she completely shut down when her Teleprompter fell over like some other political leaders i can think of.

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My Dad has the hugest crush on Sarah Palin. I think its half because he thinks she's hot and half because she's from here. Here being the Sandpoint/Coeur d' Alene area of Idaho.

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tragik wrote:
There is nothing wrong with preparing a few notes for a speech. All public speakers do it. It's not as tho she was taking a test or anything so it isn't exactly cheating. These are just her talking points. If she had written these notes on index cards would that make you feel better?

Its not like she completely shut down when her Teleprompter fell over like some other political leaders i can think of.

Honestly, you'd be comfortable with the President of the United States pausing in the middle of a press conference or negotiations to look at the pen scribble notes on his or her palm? Really?

And yes, if she had carefully prepared notes on paper, it would show me that she took the time to organize her thoughts in a neat and concise manner, as pretty much every public speaker does.

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To add:

"Energy"
"Budget (cut?)"
"Tax"
"Lift American spirits"

These are the same four bullshit catchphrases she was chanting for MONTHS on the campaign trail. And she couldn't remember that much?

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tragik wrote:
All public speakers do it. . . If she had written these notes on index cards would that make you feel better?

Pfft. I was on speech team for four years and only ever had written notes when compulsed to by the rules of the competition. If she can't remember talking points like "taxes", maybe she shouldn't be doing things like taking a job as a television personality, or preparing to run for president. Public speaking is a bitch for some people, but this shows an alarming lack of preparation and competency.

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tragik wrote:
There is nothing wrong with preparing a few notes for a speech. All public speakers do it. It's not as tho she was taking a test or anything so it isn't exactly cheating. These are just her talking points. If she had written these notes on index cards would that make you feel better?

Its not like she completely shut down when her Teleprompter fell over like some other political leaders i can think of.


The difference, as I see it, is that she does shit like this because she thinks looking "prepared" is a bad thing. So she wants the benefit of having notes, but without her audience being aware that she has them.

It's this whole "I'm folksy" or "Just like you" attitude that she, as well as GWB pulled. Somehow Americans are so fucking stupid that they think the leader of our country should be someone they want to have a beer with.

GWB got a lot of shit from the left whenever he fucked up a word or said something stupid. Personally, I think he did that stuff on purpose. People can relate to a guy who goofs up a word, it makes them feel on his level.

Palin is aiming to do the same thing, but she seems too stupid to even pull that off.

Really, her notes were laughable. She seriously can't remember those 3 items? When I was in school and wrote a note on my hand, it was something difficult to remember and something specific. Like the quadratic formula. What she did was the equivalent of writing "addition" on her hand.

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Personally, I don't find anything particularly funny about Sarah Palin. The fact that so many people actually take this bimbo seriously scares the sh!t out of me.

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Adelaide.Alexa wrote:
I thought she could've added getting rid of pre-existing conditions but I guess she doesn't care about that!

Government can't practically do anything about people that are already sick. Government need not make it worse by making everything more expensive. Everything more expensive does not help sick people.

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Honestly, you'd be comfortable with the President of the United States pausing in the middle of a press conference or negotiations to look at the pen scribble notes on his or her palm?

No, you're right Monkey, I wouldn't be comfortable with anyone thinking they were 'President' over me (whatever that means).

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This has got to be the most ridiculous thing that a politician has ever been criticized for. So she wrote notes on her hand, big deal. I bet Obama would write on his hands to, were he not to busy using them to clap so enthusiastically in Monkeys signature.

BTW, Palin is not an idiot. I've met her on two occasions and had her has both a mayor and a governor. She gets a bad rap because the media makes a gajillion dollars every time they report on her doing something they can play off as stupid. Nobody could stand up to the same level of scrutiny that she has and still look like a winner.

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I missed the part where she looks like a winner.

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At least she has a good sense of humor, poking fun at herself and such:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249712/Now-Palins-moc...

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I won't comment on her intelloigence, but I will say she's woefully underprepared to hold any kind of national office. She can't think on her feet, her ideas are half-baked feelgood catchphrases ("just like Obama!" he said, stealing your weakest but easiest argument)and she knows nothing of proper discourse.

She went to a debate and told the debaters she wasn't there to answer "their" questions. At a debate.

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I'm not saying she should be president. I wouldn't vote for her. I'm just saying that most of the arguments against her are coming from flawed logic and incredibly biased observations. When she was running for VP I watched thousands of "journalists" from all over the world descend on my state with the sole intention of destroying her. Not fact checking or doing any kind of real investigation, but actually paying money for the most damning stories they could dig up on her and running them without verifying them at all. One guy got paid $5,000 to tell them he used to buy drugs from Todd Palin and it turns out that they never even met.

She has plenty of policies that one may take issue with. Thats fine. But the real attacks are on her family and her intelligence, and the sad thing is that the damage is already done.

But I do agree with you that Obama was woefully unprepared for national office, having never been an executive of any kind. Unlike Palin.

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I just...i don't understand.

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tragik wrote:
These are just her talking points. If she had written these notes on index cards would that make you feel better?

Writing notes is what index cards are for. If you have to write "Tax cuts" on your hand as a talking point, then you are an idiot.

I feel just fine with her writing on her hand and am only somewhat disappointed that she did not dot her i's with little smiley-faces. Any further signals that she wishes to send to the world indicating brain-death, I'm all for it; the more who know, the better.

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i don't think anyone over 18 should write on their hand ever! especially notes... no one needs to write notes on their fucking hand. it's called a post-it use it! index cards, paper for crying out loud! you don't go to an interview for a job with notes scribbled on your hand that's unprofessional. i'm not saying this is relevant in reflecting how intelligent she is but it does reflect on her professionalism and just plain common sense.

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Common sense? Do we want that now? Are we wanting common sense? I'm just checking...

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yes i want common sense damn it!

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Giggan wrote:
Adelaide.Alexa wrote:
I thought she could've added getting rid of pre-existing conditions but I guess she doesn't care about that!

Government can't practically do anything about people that are already sick. Government need not make it worse by making everything more expensive. Everything more expensive does not help sick people.

Forcing insurance companies to get rid of the preexisting condition clause will make them actually give a fuck about their patients health. I heard a statistic that I found interesting today, that on average if an insurance company simply gave advice to people on how to eat better, which would lead to a significant drop in diabetes, they would save upwards of $6,500 per patient per year, which is something along the lines of $400,000 per the lifetime of the patient. Or something to that effect. Pretty astounding numbers, if that's anywhere near reality.

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tragik wrote:
I'm not saying she should be president. I wouldn't vote for her. I'm just saying that most of the arguments against her are coming from flawed logic and incredibly biased observations. When she was running for VP I watched thousands of "journalists" from all over the world descend on my state with the sole intention of destroying her. Not fact checking or doing any kind of real investigation, but actually paying money for the most damning stories they could dig up on her and running them without verifying them at all. One guy got paid $5,000 to tell them he used to buy drugs from Todd Palin and it turns out that they never even met.

She has plenty of policies that one may take issue with. Thats fine. But the real attacks are on her family and her intelligence, and the sad thing is that the damage is already done.

But I do agree with you that Obama was woefully unprepared for national office, having never been an executive of any kind. Unlike Palin.

Oh noes! The media! Those one-sided bastards! Next thing you know, they'll be hinting that Sarah Palin wasn't born in America, or saying she's friends with terrorists! Or worse still, that she went to muslim school as a youth!

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Fact-checking Sarah Palin must be one of the most tedious and time consuming jobs ever. Or the easiest, if you just give up and say it's all bullshit.

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I've heard the woman speak. She doesn't need liberal media to assassinate her character. Doin' just fine on her own, doncha know? You betcha!

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She reminds me of the mom from Bobby's World.

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Oh, for corn sake!

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She might go over better if she had a wardrobe malfunction.

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tragik wrote:

But I do agree with you that Obama was woefully unprepared for national office, having never been an executive of any kind. Unlike Palin.

People need to stop saying this. Bush was governor of Texas. Two terms. And that experience worked out SO WELL for him.

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It says in that article Palin was paid One Hundred Fucking Grand to speak before the teabaggers. Wow holy wasted money.

It wasn't funny that the White House guy had to show his thing off. It would have been funny if Palin's Hi Mom wasn't deliberately displayed either.

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Forcing insurance companies to get rid of the preexisting condition clause will make them actually give a fuck about their patients health.

They don't have patients, they have clients, but that's neither hear nor their. What your saying is basically, 'we can force them to care'. I don't think that ever works.

But let's entertain the idea for a second...

If these companies are forced to accept clients, they are also forced to cover them. Since these are the most expensive patients to insure, rates would have to be raised across the board. Can this be afforded? Not by most people.

I'm not doubting that the pre-exisiting conditions thing is based on the best of intentions, but I do question whether it's based on the best of logic and resource management, etc. Forcing businesses to provide a service is a shortcut to driving that business out of business.

But don't worry, there's always government there to provide us with medical care once those guys are driven out of business by government!

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I heard a statistic that I found interesting today, that on average if an insurance company simply gave advice to people on how to eat better, which would lead to a significant drop in diabetes, they would save upwards of $6,500 per patient per year, which is something along the lines of $400,000 per the lifetime of the patient. Or something to that effect. Pretty astounding numbers, if that's anywhere near reality.

I'd be interested to see how they came up with that number.

EDIT: That's not my hand, btw.

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Of course I meant clients, not patients. I'm not advocating the government getting involved in what private industry does (in this instance), I'm just pointing out a statistic that I heard and found interesting. I'm not a fan of big federal government. For the most part, I think the government should be there are a safety net for when private industry fails, which seems to be the case more and more these days, with huge financial profits for the 1%ers being much more important than the greater good. There are a lot of things I think should be left to private industry to handle, but I do think the federal government should be involved in a couple of things: health, education, national infrastructure and defense. Two (defense and infrastructure) are necessary (although the amount of money we spend on the military is completely bloated and frightening). The other two are necessary and honorable. I like the idea of a government healthcare plan as a backup for when private industry fails. I don't think the government should force these companies to take anyone, pre-existing condition or not, but if the government-run healthcare can take people on with pre-existing conditions, and that starts eating into the profits of private insurance companies, and that forces those companies to re-evaluate what and how they're doing, and they change and adapt in a way that benefits those of us who need/want insurance, then I'm a-ok with that.

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There are two episodes of This American Life that do an astounding job of explaining things from both sides of the argument, and basically make you realize we're fucked no matter what.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=391

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1321

Fantastic listening if you can get the episodes.